CBS Sportsline

[The_Philster]

Inside slant
Coach Mike Mularkey has scheduled a team-high of four night practices for training camp, a decision that's filled with so many positives it's hard to believe NFL teams don't practice every day under the lights in the summertime. http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/report/BUF/8597735

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"J.P. needs to make friends with those five starting linemen as soon as he can. On the field he has to let his blockers know where he'll be. I played with two different types of quarterbacks. With Jim Kelly, you knew where he would be because he couldn't move around that much. With Doug Flutie, you never knew where he was going to be." - Bills Wall of Fame center Kent Hull, talking about what new QB J.P. Losman needs to do to be successful. http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/report/BUF/8597736

[feelthepain]

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Inside slant
Coach Mike Mularkey has scheduled a team-high of four night practices for training camp, a decision that's filled with so many positives it's hard to believe NFL teams don't practice every day under the lights in the summertime. http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/report/BUF/8597735

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Notes, quotes
"J.P. needs to make friends with those five starting linemen as soon as he can. On the field he has to let his blockers know where he'll be. I played with two different types of quarterbacks. With Jim Kelly, you knew where he would be because he couldn't move around that much. With Doug Flutie, you never knew where he was going to be." - Bills Wall of Fame center Kent Hull, talking about what new QB J.P. Losman needs to do to be successful. http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/report/BUF/8597736

I think for a seasond Oline it would be tough to protect a running QB but for a line that's not a strength, for your team could spell problems. I think it would be in JP's best interest to avoid running and stay in the pocket. This could add to the growing pains of JP. He has a strong arm that should be a plus to teach him to be a pocket passer. I don't think there were many scrambling or running QB's to reach the SB. I think Steve Young is one of the few to do it. I also think Sam Wyche will try to convince JP not to panic and to be patient.
If used correctly JP's runnig could devolp into a weapon, but not if it's his first thought.

[The_Philster]

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A big part of it is usually in the growth of the QB..knowing when and when not to run...usually a running QB will learn that over time. Vick is still learning...Flutie never really did

[feelthepain]

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A big part of it is usually in the growth of the QB..knowing when and when not to run...usually a running QB will learn that over time. Vick is still learning...Flutie never really did

And to think all the hype that went into Vicks future, he's a glorified RB. He has an arm thats second to none, but what good is it if you can't connect on a wide open WR streaking across the middle??? D.McNabb came into the league as a running QB but has evolved into a pocket QB, and the same could be said for D.Culpepper. I think a running QB is just too inconsistent to play at the pro level. Teams are bigger faster and smarter at the pro level and seeing how important the QB is in the pros his health is key aswell and if you run, you take much more of a pounding.
Also the best QB's in the game today and in the past have be pocket passers there is a reason for that.

[The_Philster]

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Favre's a runner but I'd rank him as one of the best to play over the last 10 years...big part of it is coaching..they can be taught how to know when and when not to run. But the ones that don't learn are quite often the result of coaches not realizing how to utilize them best

[ublinkwescore]

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You think Sam Wyche could take Vick to a whole new level?

[Italian Stallion]

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You think Sam Wyche could take Vick to a whole new level?

I was just gonna post that, I think so....Vick has no coaching, never did since he came into the league

[ShadowHawk7]

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- "The Bills will save $2 million against this year's salary cap sometime in July by spreading out $3 million in roster bonuses Mike Williams is scheduled to get this summer. That will put his cap figure at $7.46 million and provide a cap cushion. It doesn't look like a more extensive reworking of his contract will happen this year."

Another 2 mill.. for what I wonder..

[Tatonka]

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vick has accuracy problems.. he always has.. even from back when i went to vtech with him.. it is correct that he has the strongest arm that i have ever seen.. a pure specemin, but what good is it, like FTP said.. he cant hit open receivers..

vick is fun to watch and i root for him, but i dont ever think he will be great.

[ublinkwescore]

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VERBA!!!

[John Doe]

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I don't think there were many scrambling or running QB's to reach the SB.

Sure, there will be times when Losman will have the occasional designed roll out or run, but I doubt that there is a plan to have Losman run the ball all the time.

It helps to have a QB that can make plays with his feet when the opportunity presents itself. Remember superbowl XIX?

[Bill Brasky]

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I think it would be in JP's best interest to avoid running and stay in the pocket. This could add to the growing pains of JP. He has a strong arm that should be a plus to teach him to be a pocket passer. I don't think there were many scrambling or running QB's to reach the SB.

If used correctly JP's runnig could devolp into a weapon, but not if it's his first thought.

That's what has been done w/ McNabb and now he's one of the best QB's in the league. I hope Wyche and MM do the same w/ JP.

If people were smart enough to work w/ Vick and teach him to pass first, run second, he could be one of the best QB's ever... until that happens, I consider him one of the most overrated QB's of all time. His accuracy could be improved if somebody worked with him, but everyone is too enamoured w/ his "running" ability.

[wchutalkinboutwillis]

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I think for a seasond Oline it would be tough to protect a running QB but for a line that's not a strength, for your team could spell problems. I think it would be in JP's best interest to avoid running and stay in the pocket. This could add to the growing pains of JP. He has a strong arm that should be a plus to teach him to be a pocket passer. I don't think there were many scrambling or running QB's to reach the SB. I think Steve Young is one of the few to do it. I also think Sam Wyche will try to convince JP not to panic and to be patient.
If used correctly JP's runnig could devolp into a weapon, but not if it's his first thought.

Thanks for the very intelligent insight. You should call Mularkey himself and let him know your thoughts. BTW, I think Elway, Favre, and Gannon are/were considered effective scramblers. Then again, that's only what? 8 SuperBowls?

[feelthepain]

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Thanks for the very intelligent insight. You should call Mularkey himself and let him know your thoughts. BTW, I think Elway, Favre, and Gannon are/were considered effective scramblers. Then again, that's only what? 8 SuperBowls?

There is a difference between what JP does and what Favre, Elway and Gannon did/do. They all threw first and would run last JP will think run first before he thinks pass...see the difference here??? Just because those QB's would run occasionally doesn't qualify them as scrambling QB's it simply means they weren't permanent fixtures in the backfield. Would you put those QB's in the same categorey as Vick?.... No!.... Why??? Because Vick will have nearly as many yrds rushing as his RB every year when did Elway, Favre, or Gannon ever do that?? Thas the difference between a scrambling QB and running QB!!!

[mysticsoto]

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There is a difference between what JP does and what Favre, Elway and Gannon did/do. They all threw first and would run last JP will think run first before he thinks pass...see the difference here??? Just because those QB's would run occasionally doesn't qualify them as scrambling QB's it simply means they weren't permanent fixtures in the backfield. Would you put those QB's in the same categorey as Vick?.... No!.... Why??? Because Vick will have nearly as many yrds rushing as his RB every year when did Elway, Favre, or Gannon ever do that?? Thas the difference between a scrambling QB and running QB!!!

You are talking in future tense? What JP "will" do??? You have no idea what JP will do nor what effect Wyche's coaching will have on him. As much as you like to say that Bills fans jump the gun with optimism from an "unproven" QB - you jump the gun with negativity, pessimism and hope what of what JP will do.

If you need to worry about anyone, it should be Feeley who doesn't move much and still has a crappy line around him!