Scientific Football 2005 - Buffalo QB

[mysticsoto]

Has anyone obtained the Scientifc Football 2005 book? A friend of mine here at work purchased it (it's like $50) and it is actually pretty good. It is by KC Joyner (a game tape analyst). It lists all kinds of stats for virtually any "main" player/starter and also offers alot of insight into "little things" for many players of different teams.

I am reading right now on Buffalo and what he says about QB, though he talks about almost all the different parts of a team:

On Bledsoe last year, he places alot of the blame on Bledsoe and doesn't give him a break (I like this guy already). He says film shows that a pass rush would frequently cause Bledsoe to rock backward and throw off his backfoot - causing inaccuracy in his forced passes. Also, he comments that Bledsoe doesn't seem to read defensive fronts very well - this would cause him to not know where the pass rush is coming from and subsequently cause delays in his decision making. The stats show that most of Bledsoe's passes were short but the rate of completion was only 30% - which is horrible. Our deep route connections were better, but the attempts at doing them were low. He also mentions that he doesn't know if Losman or Holcomb will be able to improve on Bledsoe's performance b'cse of the limitations of our WR (more on that in the WR post).

[Bills 4 life]

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$50?????????????????????????????

[mysticsoto]

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$50?????????????????????????????

It's 467 pages of stats, data, insight and analysis into what he has seen from many star players after breaking down the tape for each game. He models it after the Bill James Baseball Abstract.

He gives stats that you wouldn't see anywhere else...for example, bad decision metrics for QBs, dropped passes vs bad passes, etc.

The stats that he does give you are also configured in different ways. For example, in the WR section, he will have separate rankings for the WRs on attempts, completion percentage, total yards, yds/attempt and touchdowns as well as the receiver being open by 1 step, 1-2 steps or 2 or more steps, percentage thrown to WR with tight coverage, number of dropped passes, yards lost b'cse of dropped passes, etc.

He definitely lists stats that you wouldn't find anywhere else. It is a little expensive, but very thorough in analysis and stats for *every* main player and team!

I've only read Buffalo's analysis up to now, and my friend and I agree pretty much with what he says about us. I thought he was a little harsh on Rashad Baker at 1st - but on reading it again, I felt he was fair. Baker did get burned a couple of times. Other than that, I pretty much agreed with everything and was pleasantly surprised to read his review on Evans.

My friend tells me he slams Miami hard. I can't wait to read that section!

[MDFINFAN]

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My friend tells me he slams Miami hard. I can't wait to read that section!

Of course you can't, like that's news..anyway anyone can slammed Miami's team from last year...it doesn't take a $50 book or a rocket scienist, just look at the record...

[mysticsoto]

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Of course you can't, like that's news..anyway anyone can slammed Miami's team from last year...it doesn't take a $50 book or a rocket scienist, just look at the record...

Yep, except that he goes much more into depth about why Miami won't do much this year either. He says that though Saban has been making the right moves, he's ignored the O-line much like Johnson and Wannstadt did. Yeah, you have a new O-line coach, but you still have the same losers and the 2 guys you picked up aren't really great. He does admit that Feeley might be okay if he could ever get a line to block for him...and he says that the entire Defense has changed and that it will probably not be top notch at the start b'cse of its new implementations and b'cse of the older defensivemen not adapting well to a new system they are not used to. He does say that Saban has been given unprecedented powers in Miami due to the fiasco of last year and that b'cse of that, he will probably eventually be able to put a team together that is good. Most coaches have to adapt players to a system or a system to the players, but Saban can pick and choose his system and pick the players that he wants to implement that system with. In that regard, he will probably be a success. Oh, he also goes on to say that Boston is probably finished in his career. He doesn't think Boston will perform well and thinks Saban will drop him next year.

[Mr. Miyagi]

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He's the "Football Scientist". I hear him on a local radio sports show once in a while. He's good.

[mysticsoto]

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He's the "Football Scientist". I hear him on a local radio sports show once in a while. He's good.

I love his in-depth analysis of the Patriots defense and why they are so good. I am always at the home games and don't really get to see any other games on those days except the Sunday night and Monday night games, so I miss out on alot of other teams. I haven't seen the Patriots play much (except for our games vs them) and he really went into depth about how their defenses work - especially with their LB schemes and why it is so successful for them.

I'm still reading, but he hits head on with alot of the issues teams have. And his breakdown of film as he writes his analysis is great!

[Mr. Miyagi]

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Tell us what he says about the Pats D.

[mysticsoto]

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Tell us what he says about the Pats D.

First off, Belichick was a LB coach for years with the Giants (I didn't know this). He goes on to talk about LeBeau's system and how Belichick's 3-4 scheme is the next step in that evolution. Instead of being a 3-4 scheme that is defensive linemen oriented, the Pats play a 3-4 scheme that is LB oriented. He goes on a logical explanation as to why this was done. Instead of having a NT drop back to cover in a zone blitz who is likely 300 lbs or more, he replaces this role with that of a bigger LB who can cover much better than a NT could and b'cse this LB is bigger (and should be a sure tackler) then he can also cover the run sufficiently.

The net effect is that with the same personnel, the QB cannot tell what they are going to do b'cse the same LB players that can stuff the run up the middle are also covering the passing lanes. The flexibility of these LBs playing multiple roles makes it difficult for the QB to read the defense and see what they are trying to do. Those extra moments it takes to try and figure it out is all they need to add pressure to the QB and/or force a mistake or a turnover. When you don't have to bring in specialists and can use the same people for multiple roles, the QB and OC can't "guess" or anticipate what the Pats D is going to do.

He goes much more in-depth into it, but that's the gist of what he is saying. I like they way he starts by explaining the Zone blitz of LeBeau and then taking it a step further by adding the modifications that Belichick has done.

I know the book is expensive, but it is definitely a good read!

[MDFINFAN]

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Yep, except that he goes much more into depth about why Miami won't do much this year either. He says that though Saban has been making the right moves, he's ignored the O-line much like Johnson and Wannstadt did. Yeah, you have a new O-line coach, but you still have the same losers and the 2 guys you picked up aren't really great. He does admit that Feeley might be okay if he could ever get a line to block for him...and he says that the entire Defense has changed and that it will probably not be top notch at the start b'cse of its new implementations and b'cse of the older defensivemen not adapting well to a new system they are not used to. He does say that Saban has been given unprecedented powers in Miami due to the fiasco of last year and that b'cse of that, he will probably eventually be able to put a team together that is good. Most coaches have to adapt players to a system or a system to the players, but Saban can pick and choose his system and pick the players that he wants to implement that system with. In that regard, he will probably be a success. Oh, he also goes on to say that Boston is probably finished in his career. He doesn't think Boston will perform well and thinks Saban will drop him next year.

What he doesn't understand is that that same OL started to come on at the end of last year. We're talking 5 OL playing together for the first time together last year.

With Houcks tweaks, we're talking...Carey\McIntosh --LT, Jeno James-LG
S. Mckinney\Wade Smith (starting LT last year)- C., R. Hadnot (steal in 5th last year draft) -RG, McDougal, RT. Our backups, Cook, St. Clair, plus who doesn't start in the LT and C battles. St. Clair was our most consistent OLmen last year and not even starting as of now. There's some changes taking place.

That's way better than last year when our starting OL at the beginning of the season was: Wade, J. James, S. Mckinney, Whitney, St. Clair. Once they change to McIntosh (played injured), James, S. Mckinney, Hadnot, St. Clair..we got a lot better. Now our 1st round draft pick from last year is given McIntosh a run for his money at LT. This plus a year together now with new schemes makes this a much better OL. As Bates, the interim outgoing coach stated, he thought the D needed more upgrades, moreso than the O. Saban has kinda bared that out though his evaluations and subsequence signings.

AJ never had a chance last year, he got out of favor with Wanny in TC because he critized the O, then he was in and out, plus the play of our OL and non running game, never gave him a chance to actually play QB, it gave him a chance to get hurt, run for his life and try to force things. Non of which bode well for him..but he did throw some passes that reminded us of D. Marino..and he threw some passes that reminded you of a rookie. All in all, if he gets time he should florish, and if pressured should do a little better with all the practice he got last year under pressure. Who knows, but we're hoping he gets the chance, because he still has to beat out Gus..I defintely perfer AJ in that situation.

[MikeInRoch]

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He's actually a Miami Dolphins fan. So maybe he's just not as big a homer as you...

[Ed]

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What he doesn't understand is that that same OL started to come on at the end of last year.

Considering how much tape he watched and how in depth he went I'm pretty sure he understands a lot.

[MDFINFAN]

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He's actually a Miami Dolphins fan. So maybe he's just not as big a homer as you...

Then he's a blind Miami dolpins fan..I think I may pay a little more attention than he does..Homer..

[MDFINFAN]

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Considering how much tape he watched and how in depth he went I'm pretty sure he understands a lot.

Mr. Ed, I don't think so..sometimes it's the suddle changes that makes the biggest impact, like Hadnot for Whitney.. and now McDougal for St. Clair, leaving him to be a swing guy..and Carey fightning it out with McIntosh. Those little things mean a lot to the overall sucess of a tean...Last year Hadnot insertion into the lineup really changed the complexity.

[mysticsoto]

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Then he's a blind Miami dolpins fan..I think I may pay a little more attention than he does..Homer..

This guy watches and breaks down tape for a living, and you claim to know more about the fins than he does? Now that's really being a homer! He may be a fin fan, but he's definitely objective about the situation. He's got my respect on his football knowledge!