Why not take the second from Jax?

[HHURRICANE]

I am hearing that Jax was offering a second. A second, even late, is still better than a third. I think we could have waited a few more days.

[casdhf]

I haven't heard anything official yet

[juice]

I am hearing that Jax was offering a second. A second, even late, is still better than a third. I think we could have waited a few more days.That was a ficticious story that some newspaper in Jacksonville was pushing.. If they were really willing to part with a 2nd, I think they would have been able to reach someone in the Bills Front Office.

Maybe they should've tried to make the conditional 2nd round offer before the deal with Tenn. was completed instead of claiming the offer was on the table.. that story is probably fiction anyway.

[Bills 4 life]

Camp doesn't open til the 29th. I would have let both teams..or maybe even 3 teams duke it out(sea). This pick would have turned into a 2nd rounder.

[HHURRICANE]

"But a league source said Jacksonville hadn't heard from the Bills in days despite repeated attempts to contact them. Jacksonville wanted Henry so badly it might have given up a second-rounder if given a chance to make a counter offer, the source said."

Desparation?!

[ghz in pittsburgh]

No concrete evidence of that unless you have sources other than that in B News today.

Personally I'm a little disappointed that we didn't get a conditional 2nd. I'd bet that if TD has a chance to get a 2nd straight up, he'd push for it very hard.

The word has always been that Titans offered a 3rd in recent days without a Henry extension in place while Jags had an extension in place but not meeting Bills solid 3rd requirement. Only on Friday night they made an offer: a 3rd round offer.

Could the Bills bargain more to get to the 2nd round? Maybe, but I felt unless Taylor is not going to play this season, I doubt Jags would give us that straight up.

Notice the different approaches. The Jags think about long term investment with Henry replacing Taylor next year and onwards (which means they could offer a conditional 2nd but get around it in actual play this year) whereas the Titans are in a finding out mold with regard to Brown and Henry this year.

[BillsFever21]

I'd rather ship off to the Titans. It would suck if the Jags beat us out for a playoff spot with Henry helping them do it.

The only way Henry would meet the requirements for a conditional 2nd is if Taylor was out about all of the year. When/If Taylor is healthy he would be getting the bulk of the carries.

Henry is in the same situation as Buffalo but only in a different city. He will be the backup when Chris Brown is healthy.

[Nighthawk]

I am hearing that Jax was offering a second. A second, even late, is still better than a third. I think we could have waited a few more days.


If this story is true, and I highly doubt it, the only reason the Bills take the Titans 3rd rounder is because they believe that they will not be very competitive this year. The Bills would probably feel that making a potential playoff team stronger (Jaguars) would not be good for their efforts to get into the playoffs. This way, yes, they lose a couple of spots in the draft, but they don't help out another team who they will be competing against for a playoff spot. This is the only reason I could see the Bills turning down a 2nd rounder.

[HHURRICANE]

I don't think we would have had to settle for a conditional but a firm second rounder out of Jax. Jax might have blown this one. They really needed Henry.

[BillsFever21]

I don't think we would have had to settle for a conditional but a firm second rounder out of Jax. Jax might have blown this one. They really needed Henry.
I'd rather not help the Jags out.

[Dozerdog]

I'd rather ship off to the Titans. It would suck if the Jags beat us out for a playoff spot with Henry helping them do it.

The only way Henry would meet the requirements for a conditional 2nd is if Taylor was out about all of the year. When/If Taylor is healthy he would be getting the bulk of the carries.

Henry is in the same situation as Buffalo but only in a different city. He will be the backup when Chris Brown is healthy.
Agreed.

Jax has egg on their faces right now. They had 4 months to meet the Bills price of an unconditional 3rd round pick. All of a sudden- after getting beaten by a divisional rival, they claim to have offered something better? :rofl:

All you see is Jaguar damage control.


Plus- I'm sure there is somewhat of an ediquette between GM's as well. If you name your price- and someone agrees in principle- you aren't going to hang up the phone and backstab it by dealing back to Jacksonville.


It would be one thing if TD went to the two clubs and said- "OK- best offer takes Henry". He didn't. He said "Unconditional 3rd round pick" - the Titans finally said "OK- Deal".



I'm very happy how this turned out. Next year's draft is loaded with LT's ...and with 4 picks in the first day- we should be able to land one.

[Nighthawk]

Agreed.

Jax has egg on their faces right now. They had 4 months to meet the Bills price of an unconditional 3rd round pick. All of a sudden- after getting beaten by a divisional rival, they claim to have offered something better? :rofl:

All you see is Jaguar damage control.


Plus- I'm sure there is somewhat of an ediquette between GM's as well. If you name your price- and someone agrees in principle- you aren't going to hang up the phone and backstab it by dealing back to Jacksonville.


It would be one thing if TD went to the two clubs and said- "OK- best offer takes Henry". He didn't. He said "Unconditional 3rd round pick" - the Titans finally said "OK- Deal".



I'm very happy how this turned out. Next year's draft is loaded with LT's ...and with 4 picks in the first day- we should be able to land one.


Don't forget, we probably will get more draft picks because of the loss of Pat Williams and Jonas Jennings.

[gggbills]

Agreed.

Jax has egg on their faces right now. They had 4 months to meet the Bills price of an unconditional 3rd round pick. All of a sudden- after getting beaten by a divisional rival, they claim to have offered something better? :rofl:

All you see is Jaguar damage control.


Plus- I'm sure there is somewhat of an ediquette between GM's as well. If you name your price- and someone agrees in principle- you aren't going to hang up the phone and backstab it by dealing back to Jacksonville.


It would be one thing if TD went to the two clubs and said- "OK- best offer takes Henry". He didn't. He said "Unconditional 3rd round pick" - the Titans finally said "OK- Deal".



I'm very happy how this turned out. Next year's draft is loaded with LT's ...and with 4 picks in the first day- we should be able to land one.

I concur, I think the Jags are trying to save face here. If they wanted TH that bad, they could have had him days ago. But they will be all right even if Taylor does not recover, the Jags will need to go get Shawn A. or E. James, and they will pay a heavy price for doing so

[HHURRICANE]

Plus- I'm sure there is somewhat of an ediquette between GM's as well. If you name your price- and someone agrees in principle- you aren't going to hang up the phone and backstab it by dealing back to Jacksonville.

It would be one thing if TD went to the two clubs and said- "OK- best offer takes Henry". He didn't. He said "Unconditional 3rd round pick" - the Titans finally said "OK- Deal".

Good point.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Henry is in the same situation as Buffalo but only in a different city. He will be the backup when Chris Brown is healthy.

I'm not so sure about that. Brown proved that he is not a workhorse back. I would think that the Titans would be smart enough to want to keep him healthy rather than abuse him until he's injured.
My guess is that the carries will be fairly evenly distributed. Henry will be the short yardage guy while Brown will see more in the passing game. It's really a nice complimentary duo. Brown's upright, slashing style with potential big runs vs. Henry's low, power, stiff arming style that always gets you positive yards when you need them.

[DaleG]

I wonder if Travis will be disgruntled in Tennesee and demand a trade if he is not named the starter at the beginning of the season?

[L.A. Playa]

remember there is just reportedly a deal nothing official yet

[Night Train]

Jax has egg on their faces right now. They had 4 months to meet the Bills price of an unconditional 3rd round pick. All of a sudden- after getting beaten by a divisional rival, they claim to have offered something better? :rofl:

All you see is Jaguar damage control.

Precisely. They were even being difficult about giving up the unconditional 3rd, after supposedly working out an extension with Henry. Then the Titans offer the unconditional 3rd, which should be a far higher pick.

Now we're supposed to believe they would up it to a 2nd if given the chance ? Complete rubbish.

[Philisophical Troll]

I am hearing that Jax was offering a second. A second, even late, is still better than a third. I think we could have waited a few more days.
There's a simple answer to this: Tom Donahoe is a loser with no knowledge of the game of football. Plus he wanted to unload Henry ASAP due to the fact he spit in the guys face for treating a player of his calibur so disrespectfully. After all this is the same idiot that drafts a severly injured running back in the first round when you already have a probowler and top running back on your roster. Donahoe you are a dam fool, get the hell off this team before you completely destroy it!

[Jayhawk]

compared to you Troll, TD is a freaking genius.

[ParanoidAndroid]

When are people going to catch on and just scroll right past his posts or set him to ignore?

[The_Philster]

When are people going to catch on and just scroll right past his posts or set him to ignore?I won't set him to ignore...sometimes I need to spread rep around and he gives me good outlets for :negrep: :D

[Dozerdog]

There's a simple answer to this: Tom Donahoe is a loser with no knowledge of the game of football. Plus he wanted to unload Henry ASAP due to the fact he spit in the guys face for treating a player of his calibur so disrespectfully. After all this is the same idiot that drafts a severly injured running back in the first round when you already have a probowler and top running back on your roster. Donahoe you are a dam fool, get the hell off this team before you completely destroy it!
:rofl:

What garbage.



If anything- TD came yto realize that Henry was maxed out on his talent. With McGahee- a faster, bigger, more powerful back- he decided to improve the team at thaqt position.

OK- with the benefit of hindsight- use your football genius and tell me who you would have selected at #22 instead of McGahee?

[Dozerdog]

There's a simple answer to this: Tom Donahoe is a loser with no knowledge of the game of football. Plus he wanted to unload Henry ASAP due to the fact he spit in the guys face for treating a player of his calibur so disrespectfully. After all this is the same idiot that drafts a severly injured running back in the first round when you already have a probowler and top running back on your roster. Donahoe you are a dam fool, get the hell off this team before you completely destroy it!
That would be a 1,000 yard severely injured RB.

Henry showed us how smart he and his agent really are. If Henry had half a brain- he wouldn't have gone broke thus forcing to take an extra year extension at dirt - rock- bottom prices to bail him out financially. Hardly Everhard has to be the second worst agent in the NFLp- arguably one notch above Terrel Owen's incompitent agent last yeAR.

Thus- he would have been a free agent this season and had hisa choice of teams.

At worst, at least play out the contract and go to FAcy this next season.


As he did with Price and now Henry- he has manufactured tremendous value out of nothing.



Are you sure you're not Travis's agent?????

[The_Philster]

Are you sure you're not Travis's agent?????:scratch:
http://www.billszone.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10004/normal_Photo104%7E0.JPG (javascript:;)

[Philisophical Troll]

:rofl:

What garbage.



If anything- TD came yto realize that Henry was maxed out on his talent. With McGahee- a faster, bigger, more powerful back- he decided to improve the team at thaqt position.

OK- with the benefit of hindsight- use your football genius and tell me who you would have selected at #22 instead of McGahee?
Um lets see, Aquan Boldin (rookie of the year), Dallas Clark and Bethel Johnson were all there and passed over your genius GM, but instead he chose an assclown because Drew Rosenhaus pulled Donahoe's strings like the puppet he is. Once again why draft a running back with your first choice when you have a probowler on the roster? Especially considering the fact you lost Peerless Price, riemersma and larry centers? Even TD has left a philisophical troll dumbfounded and second guessing with his blantant ignorance in regards to making intelligent front office decisions for this franchise.

[Philagape]

There's a simple answer to this: Tom Donahoe is a loser with no knowledge of the game of football.

Which is still more than you have. Have you ever actually watched a game in your life?


After all this is the same idiot that drafts a severly injured running back in the first round when you already have a probowler and top running back on your roster. Donahoe you are a dam fool, get the hell off this team before you completely destroy it!

That severely injured running back outperformed Henry on the same team. He turned the season around and averaged 100 yards a start. Again, do you actually watch football? Or do you just listen to the radio and think you can talk smack like they can?

[Philagape]

Once again why draft a running back with your first choice when you have a probowler on the roster?

How about because the RB he drafted is better. And younger. And now we have a first-day pick out of it.


Especially considering the fact you lost Peerless Price, riemersma and larry centers? Even TD has left a philisophical troll dumbfounded and second guessing with his blantant ignorance in regards to making intelligent front office decisions for this franchise.

Yeah, we sure miss Peerless ... we'd much rather have him now than the No. 1 pick we got for him :roflmao:

[ParanoidAndroid]

If I had more rep to give, I'd give negative rep every time someone quotes that pissaholic.

[FlyingDutchman]

I dont think you have the grounds to call anyone stupid:crazy: ....coming from you that means absolutely nothing.:haha: ..I know you just come on this site to egg people on, judging by your obvious lack of football knowledge, as well as Buffalo Bills knowledge...we didnt exactly lose Peerless Price...we traded for a draft pick...which got us Mcgahee....Since you know so much about football, you must already know the career turn Price has encountered since going down south....:whoosh: as far as TD drafting Mcgahee with a RB on the team, there are lot of GM in every sport who like to pick the best available player. Had Mcgahee not been injured in his last game, he would have been a top 5 pick, so you might wanna say TD looks like a genius there:bf1: Larry centers was good but old as hell and I think he retired now....and I wouldnt talk about bad GM moves....especially after the Cowboys named Drew Bledsoe as the answer to Vinny T. Stop embarassing yourself with stupid ignorant statements, you are putting cowboy fans right up there with the stupid ignorant steeler fans:laughing: as the worst in the NFL


troll=:limp:

[Night Train]

:scratch:
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Wearing beads ? Was he flashing his chest to the cheering mobs ?

[The_Philster]

Wearing beads ? Was he flashing his chest to the cheering mobs ?as drunk as he was...who knows? :idunno: :lol:

[Fat Tony]

Um lets see, Aquan Boldin (rookie of the year), Dallas Clark and Bethel Johnson were all there and passed over your genius GM, but instead he chose an assclown because Drew Rosenhaus pulled Donahoe's strings like the puppet he is. Once again why draft a running back with your first choice when you have a probowler on the roster? Especially considering the fact you lost Peerless Price, riemersma and larry centers? Even TD has left a philisophical troll dumbfounded and second guessing with his blantant ignorance in regards to making intelligent front office decisions for this franchise.
Yes- those were all very nice later picks made.

Boldin had a great year- but he was a no show last year. Just the opposite oif McGahee. That's a wash.

Boldin was projected for rds 3-4 . I'm sure if TD picked Clark or Bethel Johnson with a 1st round pick most people here would have strung him up.
:rofl: Bethel Johnson? Career 26 catches Bethel Johnson??

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But hey- if going against the grain with drivel is your bag to get attention be my guest.

[Fat Tony]

There's a simple answer to this: Tom Donahoe is a loser with no knowledge of the game of football. Plus he wanted to unload Henry ASAP due to the fact he spit in the guys face for treating a player of his calibur so disrespectfully. After all this is the same idiot that drafts a severly injured running back in the first round when you already have a probowler and top running back on your roster. Donahoe you are a dam fool, get the hell off this team before you completely destroy it!
BTW- If TD was such a moron, and made such a terrible move like getting Bledsoe a few years back- then discards him....what does that make Dallas?

A bunch of ******s?

[gggbills]

There's a simple answer to this: Tom Donahoe is a loser with no knowledge of the game of football. Plus he wanted to unload Henry ASAP due to the fact he spit in the guys face for treating a player of his calibur so disrespectfully. After all this is the same idiot that drafts a severly injured running back in the first round when you already have a probowler and top running back on your roster. Donahoe you are a dam fool, get the hell off this team before you completely destroy it!

Blah, Blah, Blah......If we wanted to unload TH ASAP, he would have been gone months ago. Also, TH was out performed by a better RB, and that made TH the second best running back on the team, no disrepect there, just plain old football. You know football, that sport you calm you have vast knowledge of...ya, that one.

[Philisophical Troll]

BTW- If TD was such a moron, and made such a terrible move like getting Bledsoe a few years back- then discards him....what does that make Dallas?

A bunch of ******s?
Buffalo didn't have the talent around Drew Bledsoe to succeed, plain and simple. Bledsoe is a dying breed of the classic statuesque pocket passer like Dan Marino. Bledsoe had a ridiculous year in 2002 despite playing behind a pourous line because he had the talent to work with: Centers, Riemersa, Moulds (in his prime), Peerless Price, and Josh Reed had his best year ironically as a rookie. So what does your idiot GM do? He strips Drew of his arsenal, expecting him to make magic on the field with nothing. Bobby Shaw? Dave Moore? Moulds was also hurt a majority of the 03' campaign Give me a break.You will soon eat your words when you see Bledsoe light up the scoreboard with a guy named JASON WITTEN. A player that is better than ben coates and any joke excuse for a tight end you've had on your roster.

[Philagape]

The first and only time Drew Bledsoe has ever been mentioned in the same sentence as Dan Marino. :puke:
So what happened in the second half of 2002 when The Failure tanked with the same talent around him?

[BuffaloRanger]

Damn I hate agreeing with Cowboy fans but...

What if the Bills would have selected Dallas Clark, kept TH and possibly used the Euhus pick on some line help (LG maybe) wouldn't have needed Everett this year either. WM is better than TH, but with a better line and minus the distraction of a 1st rd pick he knew the Bills had to start (to prove TD right) TH could have been good for 1400 yds last year. The middle of the line was weak. Even WM got nailed 5 times a game behind the line.

He is right about TD stripping off the teams tools in one offseason. Did some of you forget all the media attention to the Bills releasing over 35% of their pass catching in Reismerma, Centers, and Price?

Why does anyone think that TD will pick a day 1 LT next year? Gandy is the future, and Mouse likes what he sees in Peters remember? There will be a player of higher value there at each Bills selection, like say a WR, TE, RB, or even QB. TD always takes the best player available regardless of who is already on the roster. That's why he is a super genius.

He's not as bad as that cowboys troll makes him out to be, but he shouldn't be GM next year if the Bills miss the playoffs again.

[BuffaloRanger]

Yes- those were all very nice later picks made.

Boldin had a great year- but he was a no show last year. Just the opposite oif McGahee. That's a wash.

Boldin was projected for rds 3-4 . I'm sure if TD picked Clark or Bethel Johnson with a 1st round pick most people here would have strung him up.
:rofl: Bethel Johnson? Career 26 catches Bethel Johnson??

But hey- if going against the grain with drivel is your bag to get attention be my guest.


Check again. Boldin wasn't a no show last year. 56 catches in 9 games started for 623 yds.

Evans, who some are calling the Bills #1 WR (LOL) had 48 catches for 848 yds in 15 games.

[Philisophical Troll]

Damn I hate agreeing with Cowboy fans but...

What if the Bills would have selected Dallas Clark, kept TH and possibly used the Euhus pick on some line help (LG maybe) wouldn't have needed Everett this year either. WM is better than TH, but with a better line and minus the distraction of a 1st rd pick he knew the Bills had to start (to prove TD right) TH could have been good for 1400 yds last year. The middle of the line was weak. Even WM got nailed 5 times a game behind the line.

He is right about TD stripping off the teams tools in one offseason. Did some of you forget all the media attention to the Bills releasing over 35% of their pass catching in Reismerma, Centers, and Price?

Why does anyone think that TD will pick a day 1 LT next year? Gandy is the future, and Mouse likes what he sees in Peters remember? There will be a player of higher value there at each Bills selection, like say a WR, TE, RB, or even QB. TD always takes the best player available regardless of who is already on the roster. That's why he is a super genius.

He's not as bad as that cowboys troll makes him out to be, but he shouldn't be GM next year if the Bills miss the playoffs again.
I've preached this time and time again to Bills fans on here and BB.com, but they refuse to listen. The single biggest mistake that killed this team was trading Peerless Price. He was the perfect compliment to Moulds and the best #2 receiver in the game at the time. Look at what he did in Atlanta without Drew or EMO...nothing!

People keep ignoring the facts, but when you take the bullets away from a loaded shotgun, what value does the shotgun have asks a philisophical troll? And that is what happened to the Bills in 03' despite the hot 2-0 start that was only due to the momentum from acquiring Malloy and crushing NE. I don't care what you people think, but see how good that team would have been with Manning, Culpepper or Brady...no different. And if it wasn't for the 2-0 start they may have only won 3 or 4 games as opposed to 6.

Donahoe tried to play god and failed, spending money on defense and thinking Bledsoe would carry this team on offense with a banged up moulds, pourous line and no viable 2nd or 3rd option. He thought Josh Reed would step in and fill PP's shoes but he stumbled miserably.

A QUARTERBACK IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE TEAM AROUND HIM MOST IMPORTANTLY THE LINE BLOCKING FOR HIM AND THE RECIEVERS TO THROW TO. See Peyton Manning for the perfect example.

[Dozerdog]

What's the big deal of TD "stripping the team" of Centers and Riemersma? LOL

Did either do anything significant the past two seasons? Both are out of jobs at the moment.

I guess we should have kept JR and have him eat up a few million in cap space. We really didn't need the space to sign guys like Spikes or keep Schobel.

[Nighthawk]

I've preached this time and time again to Bills fans on here and BB.com, but they refuse to listen. The single biggest mistake that killed this team was trading Peerless Price. He was the perfect compliment to Moulds and the best #2 receiver in the game at the time. Look at what he did in Atlanta without Drew or EMO...nothing!

People keep ignoring the facts, but when you take the bullets away from a loaded shotgun, what value does the shotgun have asks a philisophical troll? And that is what happened to the Bills in 03' despite the hot 2-0 start that was only due to the momentum from acquiring Malloy and crushing NE. I don't care what you people think, but see how good that team would have been with Manning, Culpepper or Brady...no different. And if it wasn't for the 2-0 start they may have only won 3 or 4 games as opposed to 6.

Donahoe tried to play god and failed, spending money on defense and thinking Bledsoe would carry this team on offense with a banged up moulds, pourous line and no viable 2nd or 3rd option. He thought Josh Reed would step in and fill PP's shoes but he stumbled miserably.

A QUARTERBACK IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE TEAM AROUND HIM MOST IMPORTANTLY THE LINE BLOCKING FOR HIM AND THE RECIEVERS TO THROW TO. See Peyton Manning for the perfect example.


Still a moron and will always be a moron...go away! If you want to stay, get a clue.

[FlyingDutchman]

I've preached this time and time again to Bills fans on here and BB.com, but they refuse to listen. The single biggest mistake that killed this team was trading Peerless Price. He was the perfect compliment to Moulds and the best #2 receiver in the game at the time. Look at what he did in Atlanta without Drew or EMO...nothing!

People keep ignoring the facts, but when you take the bullets away from a loaded shotgun, what value does the shotgun have asks a philisophical troll? And that is what happened to the Bills in 03' despite the hot 2-0 start that was only due to the momentum from acquiring Malloy and crushing NE. I don't care what you people think, but see how good that team would have been with Manning, Culpepper or Brady...no different. And if it wasn't for the 2-0 start they may have only won 3 or 4 games as opposed to 6.

Donahoe tried to play god and failed, spending money on defense and thinking Bledsoe would carry this team on offense with a banged up moulds, pourous line and no viable 2nd or 3rd option. He thought Josh Reed would step in and fill PP's shoes but he stumbled miserably.

A QUARTERBACK IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE TEAM AROUND HIM MOST IMPORTANTLY THE LINE BLOCKING FOR HIM AND THE RECIEVERS TO THROW TO. See Peyton Manning for the perfect example.
:boring: :yap: http://www.billszone.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10003/thumb_mURI_temp_815d9954.jpghttp://www.billszone.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_1096891813_6751.jpg (http://www.billszone.com/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=187) Heres the future of Dallas :lmao:

[Philagape]

A QUARTERBACK IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE TEAM AROUND HIM MOST IMPORTANTLY THE LINE BLOCKING FOR HIM AND THE RECIEVERS TO THROW TO. See Peyton Manning for the perfect example.

Some quarterbacks make everyone else around them better. You think Reggie Wayne or Brandon Stokley would have the careers they're having with anyone else? You think Manning's low sack rate is because of his line? Favre has done well his whole career with several different supporting casts. Tom Brady's never had a Pro Bowl receiver. Cowgirl fans are sure aware of what McNabb can do all by himself :snicker: These kinds of QBs are like having a sixth lineman, because they have poise, a sixth sense, a quick release and, even if not mobile, an ability to avoid the rush.
The Failure is not one of those quarterbacks. He has none of those qualities. He makes those around him look worse than they are. The O-line is irrelevant when The Failure plays, because it takes perfection to protect him. He contributes absolutely nothing to his own defense. His receivers get low yards after the catch because they have to break stride or contort themselves to catch his passes. I'm sure this is all news to you since you obviously don't actually watch his games.

[gggbills]

I've preached this time and time again to Bills fans on here and BB.com, but they refuse to listen. The single biggest mistake that killed this team was trading Peerless Price. He was the perfect compliment to Moulds and the best #2 receiver in the game at the time. Look at what he did in Atlanta without Drew or EMO...nothing!

People keep ignoring the facts, but when you take the bullets away from a loaded shotgun, what value does the shotgun have asks a philisophical troll? And that is what happened to the Bills in 03' despite the hot 2-0 start that was only due to the momentum from acquiring Malloy and crushing NE. I don't care what you people think, but see how good that team would have been with Manning, Culpepper or Brady...no different. And if it wasn't for the 2-0 start they may have only won 3 or 4 games as opposed to 6.

Donahoe tried to play god and failed, spending money on defense and thinking Bledsoe would carry this team on offense with a banged up moulds, pourous line and no viable 2nd or 3rd option. He thought Josh Reed would step in and fill PP's shoes but he stumbled miserably.

A QUARTERBACK IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE TEAM AROUND HIM MOST IMPORTANTLY THE LINE BLOCKING FOR HIM AND THE RECIEVERS TO THROW TO. See Peyton Manning for the perfect example.

Your right Troll, Price was a very good #2, however the reason why he sucks in ATL is because he is the number 1 WR and cannot handle the job. The reason why he is not in Buffalo is because he wanted #1 type money but TD was not stupid enough to pay a #2 WR top dollar.

[FlyingDutchman]

Some quarterbacks make everyone else around them better. You think Reggie Wayne or Brandon Stokley would have the careers they're having with anyone else? You think Manning's low sack rate is because of his line? Favre has done well his whole career with several different supporting casts. Tom Brady's never had a Pro Bowl receiver. Cowgirl fans are sure aware of what McNabb can do all by himself :snicker: These kinds of QBs are like having a sixth lineman, because they have poise, a sixth sense, a quick release and, even if not mobile, an ability to avoid the rush.
The Failure is not one of those quarterbacks. He has none of those qualities. He makes those around him look worse than they are. The O-line is irrelevant when The Failure plays, because it takes perfection to protect him. He contributes absolutely nothing to his own defense. His receivers get low yards after the catch because they have to break stride or contort themselves to catch his passes. I'm sure this is all news to you since you obviously don't actually watch his games.
:bf1: Hows it feel to get crapped on again troll?

[Typ0]

did anyone consider that JAX was blowing smoke about the second round pick...and trying to save face because they couldn't get the deal done in time to get TH for the third? I think this is highly more likely than they were really going to give a second. If they were going to do that TH would be headed to JAX. It's pretty easy after the fact to say "heck, we would have traded four good players and given two draft picks for TH".

[Night Train]

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[Bert102176]

well he's not signed sealed and delivered yet they only agreed in princible so if something better comes along they may take it, hell look at Hakim he agreed in princible with the chiefs then went to the saints I believe.