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  • vicmantak
    Registered User
    • Jun 2005
    • 787

    J.P. Losman price

    Buffalo Bills dealt for pick from Dallas and drafted J.P. Losman 22nd in 2004 first round.

    His price.... a first-rounder in 2005 (DE Marcus Spears) and second- (RB Julius Jones) and fifth-round picks (TE Sean Ryan) in 2004.

    Any comments?

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  • Jan Reimers
    Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
    • May 2003
    • 17353

    #2
    Re: J.P. Losman price

    Like most trades, it will take a few years before we really know who got the better deal.
    Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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    • MikeInRoch
      Registered User
      • Sep 2003
      • 10446

      #3
      Re: J.P. Losman price

      It's not just about if JP ends up being a better player than those three combined.... It's about if Buffalo could have gotten a better QB of the future somehow. Which, again, we won't know for some time.
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      • ryjam282
        Offical Billszone Starting QB
        • Mar 2003
        • 3261

        #4
        Re: J.P. Losman price

        I agree, right now, it looks very one sided, but you never know. Julius Jones is the only one doing anything and we don't know anything about Spears yet so hard to say.



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        • Jan Reimers
          Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
          • May 2003
          • 17353

          #5
          Re: J.P. Losman price

          It's all a crap shoot. Sometimes you get Tom Brady. Sometimes you get Ryan Leaf.
          Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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          • BidsJr
            Registered User
            • Sep 2002
            • 2858

            #6
            Re: J.P. Losman price

            Originally posted by vicmantak
            Buffalo Bills dealt for pick from Dallas and drafted J.P. Losman 22nd in 2004 first round.

            His price.... a first-rounder in 2005 (DE Marcus Spears) and second- (RB Julius Jones) and fifth-round picks (TE Sean Ryan) in 2004.

            Any comments?

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            http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDr...spect012505.htm
            http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/...yers/42154.html
            The price was Jones and Ryan. Spears doesn't count as that pick was the one swapped.

            It is really frustrating how some people look at it this way. Really in much the same way as they still call J.P. a rookie.

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            • colin
              Drew's my hero!
              • Jul 2002
              • 2491

              #7
              Re: J.P. Losman price

              don't forget we got the pick early, that does count for something even tho he got hurt.

              also, trades can benefit both teams. henry for a 3rd to tenn is prolly the best thing for both teams for example

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              • Throne Logic
                Terry Tate - Outside Linebacker
                • Aug 2002
                • 2052

                #8
                Re: J.P. Losman price

                Originally posted by BidsJr
                The price was Jones and Ryan. Spears doesn't count as that pick was the one swapped.

                It is really frustrating how some people look at it this way. Really in much the same way as they still call J.P. a rookie.


                Thank you. There seems to be a mental block for most folks.
                Still searching for that offensive rhythm.

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                • The last buffalo fan
                  I told the pet store guy "How else am I supposed to get the mouse out of my ass?"
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 18204

                  #9
                  Re: J.P. Losman price

                  I think it can not be measured by this way. First of all, I'm sure that as two different teams we have a different approach / needs, and I don't think so that we could have ended, taking the same players if we have kept those picks. You have a need, find the player you want, pay the price to get him, take your chaces. To me it is a price, not a comparison between players, if this works perfect, if not live with it.
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                  • Mr. Miyagi
                    Lecter's Little *****

                    • Sep 2002
                    • 53616

                    #10
                    Re: J.P. Losman price

                    You know what's really worth it? It's that we got Losman a year early. Otherwise we'd have to a) keep Drew one more year ( ), b) start Matt Schaub ( ), or c) throw a rookie like Jason Campbell to the wolves.

                    Looking at it this way, I think we did the right thing trading for JP.

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                    • Mr. Miyagi
                      Lecter's Little *****

                      • Sep 2002
                      • 53616

                      #11
                      Re: J.P. Losman price

                      And no, I don't think we would've taken another cement foot QB like Aaron Rodgers.

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                      • Philisophical Troll
                        Take my dating advice, it worked for me on my sister :up:
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 151

                        #12
                        Re: J.P. Losman price

                        This is a ridiculous question to ask......JJ alone is better than that piece of trash Lossman, let alone JJ + future defensive player of the year Spears....give me a break!

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                        • FlyingDutchman
                          Registered User
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 5074

                          #13
                          Re: J.P. Losman price

                          Originally posted by Philisophical Troll
                          This is a ridiculous question to ask......JJ alone is better than that piece of trash Lossman, let alone JJ + future defensive player of the year Spears....give me a break!
                          and you base this is on.......the kid hasn't played yet, so far TD's moves have looked great.....If JP pans out, we'll have one of the most powerful and dynamic offenses in the league with JP, Willis, and Lee....I cant wait til JJ has his sophmore slump and/or just gets injured, between that and Bledsoe, you're in for a real dissapointment....

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                          • im4bflo
                            the EPITOMY of PATHETIC
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 7000

                            #14
                            Re: J.P. Losman price

                            Originally posted by Philisophical Troll
                            This is a ridiculous question to ask......JJ alone is better than that piece of trash Lossman, let alone JJ + future defensive player of the year Spears....give me a break!
                            You've got a big mouth boy, don't go running off when those cowboys start sucking like we told you, stick around and eat your crow boy.

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                            • TigerJ
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 22575

                              #15
                              Re: J.P. Losman price

                              If Losman pans out it's worth it. I think it's that simple really, and I don't care what Jones and Ryan do, or Marcus Spears for that matter. Buffalo needed a solid QB. They didn't have one. Dallas needs a solid QB. They don't have one. Julius Jones, Sean Ryan, and Marcus Spears are not going to do them that much good.
                              I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.

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