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  • Crisis
    Registered User
    • Aug 2004
    • 12738

    Nate Clements - Inside the numbers - Best CB in league?

    I posted the #1 receiver stats of WRs that Nate Clements before.

    Week 1 - Jimmy Smith - 4 recepts, 83 yards. (INT)
    Week 2 - Joey Porter - 3 recepts, 45 yards.
    Week 4 - David Givens - 4 recepts, 86 yards.
    Week 5 - Santana Moss - 2 recepts, 62 yards. (FF)
    Week 6 - Chris Chambers - 3 recepts, 23 yards.
    Week 7 - Travis Taylor - 2 recepts, 52 yards.
    Week 8 - Anquain Boldin - 4 recepts, 50 yards. (SACK)
    Week 9 - Santana Moss - 6 recepts, 157 yards. (McGee was covering Moss when he broke a big score to inflate his yard total, and Clements covered McCaries for part of the game, who was 2-27.
    Week 10 - David Givens - 5 recepts, 66 yards. (INT)
    Week 11 - Torry Holt - 8 recepts, 90 yards. (FF, Punt return TD) - A decent game for Clements, but Bulger also had 45 attempts in the game.
    Week 12 - D. Jackson - 4 recepts, 45 yards.
    Week 13 - Chris Chambers - 5 recepts, 49 yards. (INT)
    Week 14 - Antonio Bryant - 4 recepts, 37 yards. (INT) Most of Bryant's yardage came in garbage time, the Browns had negative offensive yards until late in the 4th quarter.
    Week 15 - Chad Johnson - 2 recepts, 10 yards. (FF) Clements shuts down the league's leader in receptions (at the time) to 2 receptions for 10 yards.
    Week 16 - Brandon Lloyd - 2 recepts, 25 yards. (INT)
    Week 17 - Hines Ward - 2 recepts, 11 yards. (INT for TD)

    Here are Champ Bailey's numbers

    Week 1 - Eddie Kennison - 6 recepts, 101 yards. (INT)
    Week 2 - Jimmy Smith - 3 recepts, 69 yards.
    Week 3 - R. Caldwell - 3 recepts, 39 yards.
    Week 4 - M. Clayton - 4 recepts, 91 yards.
    Week 5 - M. Muhammed - 1 recept, 9 yards.
    Week 6 - J. Porter - 3 recepts, 21 yards.
    Week 7 - C. Johnson - 7 recepts, 141 yards. (INT)
    Week 8 - P. Price - 2 recepts, 59 yards.
    Week 9 - A. Johnson - 3 recepts, 28 yards.
    Week 11 - J. Horn - 5 recepts, 81 yards. (INT)
    Week 12 - J. Porter - 6 recepts, 135 yards.
    Week 13 - R. Smith - 4 recepts, 76 yards.
    Week 14 - C. Chambers - 5 recepts, 47 yards.
    Week 15 - E. Kennison - 7 recepts, 101 yards.
    Week 16 - D. Mason - 4 recepts, 65 yards.
    Week 17 - M. Harrison - 5 recepts, 33 yards.

    For the sake of arguement, here's Chris McAlister's.

    Week 1 - Q. Morgan - 1 recept, 51 yards.
    Week 2 - H. Ward - 6 recepts, 151 yards. (INT)
    Week 3 - C. Johnson - 8 recepts, 99 yards.
    Week 4 - J. Morton - 5 recepts, 64 yards. (Eddie Kennison injured)
    Week 5 - L. Coles - 3 recepts, 25 yards.
    Week 7 - E. Moulds - 6 recepts, 96 yards.
    Week 8 - T. Owens - 8 recepts, 101 yards.
    Week 9 - A. Bryant - 4 recepts, 43 yards.
    Week 10 - S. Moss - 3 recepts, 75 yards.
    Week 11 - DNP
    Week 12 - D. Branch - 4 recepts, 51 yards.
    Week 13 - C. Johnson - 10 recepts, 161 yards.
    Week 14 - A. Toomer - 2 recepts, 53 yards.
    Week 15 - M. Harrison - 5 recepts, 73 yards.
    Week 16 - H. Ward - 3 recepts, 21 yards.
    Week 17 - C. Chambers - 4 recepts, 146 yards.


    Let's average these numbers out.

    Nate Clements stats/game - 3.75 recepts against, 52.875 yards against. (including Santana Moss' inflated yards)
    Champ Bailey stats/game - 4.25 recepts against, 68.5 yards against.
    Chris McAlister stats/game - 4.8 recepts against, 80.7 yards against.

    Add on that Nate Clements had 6 INTs, compared to Champ's 3 and McAlister's 1. Nate Clements also had more sacks and FFs than both. The guy's a playmaker. Bottom-line!

    Obviously there is a margin of error in these numbers, but for the most part Nate Clements out-performed the two "top" corners in the league last year.

    My conclusion: Give the man his money! I don't like overpaying for players but this guy is an elite corner and still younger than Bailey and McAlister.
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  • Bert102176
    Registered User
    • Aug 2002
    • 3742

    #2
    Re: Nate Clements - Inside the numbers - Best CB in league?

    yeah the numbers are ther and we need him badly
    lets go BUFFALO lets go BUFFALO

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    • Bill Brasky
      Drives an ice cream truck covered in human skulls
      • Jan 2004
      • 66218

      #3
      Re: Nate Clements - Inside the numbers - Best CB in league?

      good post. nobody's responded cuz they all realize how wrong they were.

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      • Captain Obvious
        I can feel your anger.I can feel your hate. Give in to the DARK SIDE! With every neg you become MINE
        • Jul 2005
        • 1080

        #4
        Re: Nate Clements - Inside the numbers - Best CB in league?

        One thing to consider is Champ Bailey is always in man coverage, even against top tier Wrs. Is this the case for Nate as well? Or does he often get help from a safety when going against a top tier Wr?

        Here to point out the obvious....

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        • L.A. Playa
          Registered User
          • Aug 2003
          • 19295

          #5
          Re: Nate Clements - Inside the numbers - Best CB in league?

          SHOW HIM THE MONEY

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          • Patrick76777
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 17297

            #6
            Re: Nate Clements - Inside the numbers - Best CB in league?

            I also know that Clements has more INT's and TD's in his first 4 years then Deion, Charles Woodson and Champ Bailey did! Not too bad.
            Resign our own guys!

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            • elltrain22
              Registered User
              • Sep 2003
              • 4281

              #7
              Re: Nate Clements - Inside the numbers - Best CB in league?

              Nate also is a damn good punt returner. Pay him. please
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              • BillsFever21
                Registered User
                • Aug 2004
                • 9067

                #8
                Re: Nate Clements - Inside the numbers - Best CB in league?

                He's one of the core players that a team needs to keep.

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                • The Seahag
                  Cad
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 25

                  #9
                  Re: Nate Clements - Inside the numbers - Best CB in league?

                  does he often get help from a safety when going against a top tier Wr?
                  No he does not. In fact Nate gives more help to his backfield 'mates than he ever gets on gameday. It's even more impressive when you consider the Bills rarely if ever get an interior pass rush on 3rddown.
                  With all due respect to McCallister, Tory James, Ronde Barber, Samari Rolle etc. Nate Clements is the best cornerback on the planet Earth. We can debate who is second, but we can also debate whether or not it's even a close second.
                  I'd say it's Ronde Barber, and not it's not even close.

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                  • Schobel94
                    The Sack Master
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 1289

                    #10
                    Re: Nate Clements - Inside the numbers - Best CB in league?

                    Yeah, I agree. Rarely does he ever give up a big play. We can talk about what, one or two bad plays he made this year? The 4th down pass to Jimmy Smith is the only one that comes to my mind. He is lockdown, playmaker, run supporter, and litteraly the cornerstone of the backfield, without him this defense would take a HUUUUUUGE hit.
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                    • BillsOwnAll
                      My IQ Test results came back negative
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 5502

                      #11
                      Re: Nate Clements - Inside the numbers - Best CB in league?

                      Wow i knew he was top 3 at least...that really proves hes #1. Thanks, Good job crisis.

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                      • FlyingDutchman
                        Registered User
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 5074

                        #12
                        Re: Nate Clements - Inside the numbers - Best CB in league?

                        I dont know about this whole Nate doesnt get burned or give up big plays...sure hes a playmaker, but he gives up his share of plays (ex. aginst Jacksonville last year). I also believe his head got a little inflated with makin the pro bowl last year, but lets not forget he was originally an alternate. He is a very good player and I like him, I just dont know if hes worth not being able to sign other players bc of lack of $....

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                        • The Seahag
                          Cad
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 25

                          #13
                          Re: Nate Clements - Inside the numbers - Best CB in league?

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                          I dont know about this whole Nate doesnt get burned or give up big plays...sure hes a playmakerbut he gives up his share of plays (exaginst Jacksonville last year). 
                          The guy plays 16 games, taking 50+ snaps a game often against opponents' premier receivers. And in all that high pressure action, among all those plays you're able to provide exactly one example of him getting beat. And that's your definition of "giving up his share of plays"?

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                          • Meathead
                            Insufferable ***** and perpetual crybaby
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 21349

                            #14
                            Re: Nate Clements - Inside the numbers - Best CB in league?

                            Don't you think you could have been more specific? lol. Nice job.

                            It would be interesting to see how that analysis looks for the prior 2 and 3 year period. Got a few more hours to burn?

                            Pretty convincing numbers for 2005, though.
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                            • camelcowboy
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 7449

                              #15
                              Re: Nate Clements - Inside the numbers - Best CB in league?

                              Pay him what he needs to sign the contract. We need to lock him up. He's only 24 he hasn't hit his prime yet. He is going to be the best in the league in 2 years.


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