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  • ghz in pittsburgh
    Registered User
    • Aug 2004
    • 5861

    I have no problem with Jets being rated higher than the Bills

    I never get into the "respect" argument with other fans because it really means absolutely nothing to me. The only thing matters is what you put on the score sheet.

    But in terms of evaluating team quality, I'd place Jets ahead of the Bills right now. The Bills lost to the Steelers at home, against their 2nd and 3rd stringers, in a game that means playoff or not for the Bills. the Jets won at San Diego in a playoff game; pretty much took Steelers to the woodshed in Pittsburgh with Pennington's supposedly injured arm and all before their kicker screwed up big time. Also this draft saw Jets had a first rounder whereas the Bills did not. Why would anyone think the Jets should be rated behind the Bills? It's not like the Bills replaced Bledsoe with a proven QB like Brady in the off season.

    However you look at it, the Bills will have their hands full this season, playing 4 games against playoff hardened Pats and Jets.
  • casdhf
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 17542

    #2
    Re: I have no problem with Jets being rated higher than the Bills

    What really bothers me was that the D got eaten alive that game, who is to blame for that? I don't remember who was outplayed, but I'm hoping it will be corrected.
    Originally posted by BillsZone Mod
    cas,

    I'm just letting you know that you have been given 2 points for telling Wys AKA Mark to kill himself.

    BillsZone Mod

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    • BleedinGreenNC
      Registered User
      • Sep 2004
      • 1679

      #3
      Re: I have no problem with Jets being rated higher than the Bills

      Regardless, i have mad respect for the Bills because of what they did last year and how they turned the season around. It is going to be a tight division this year, all except for the those weak teal wearing nut huggers. When the Jets play the Bills i get butterflies in my stomache, due to the fact that the two teams are so close in talent that the game could go either way. I looke forward to our games this year and hope that we can have friendlys smack between each other. Good luck this year!

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      • Night Train
        Retired - On Several Levels
        • Jul 2005
        • 33117

        #4
        Re: I have no problem with Jets being rated higher than the Bills

        I don't have any problem either with the current rating. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if the Bills surpassed the Jets this season.

        We basically gave away a win at the Meadowlands last year and handled them convincingly at the Ralph. The Jets received a career year from Curtis Martin and have a QB who still has to answer some arm/injury issues. The OL is nothing special and the DL took a hit. One key DL left and another is holding out. Depth took a big hit. Secondary is very suspect. The New York hype machine is in full speed this time of year and they do not look the part of a playoff team, entering this season.

        I realize the Bills have their own questions to answer but our D and ST's are better than the Jets. If our Offense can improve, the Jets hardly scare me.
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        • ublinkwescore
          Sab and TD are insignificant
          • Sep 2002
          • 24178

          #5
          Re: I have no problem with Jets being rated higher than the Bills

          Originally posted by casdhf
          What really bothers me was that the D got eaten alive that game, who is to blame for that? I don't remember who was outplayed, but I'm hoping it will be corrected.
          BS!!

          The D didn't get eaten alive in that game - yeah they surrendered a long @$$ run to a 3rd string RB, but we lead that game all the way till the bitter end - remember the score was 24-29 (the d also scored - see Clements' baited route where he picked off Maddux and took it to the house).

          I'm so sick of hearing that - BLEDSOE beat us - the very last score of the game (it was a 22-24 buffalo lead) was Bledsoe handing off to a Steelers linebacker or DE (I forgot what position the guy was playing) and he took it to the house taking the lead for pittsburgh - add that last TD on, it makes it 24-29 pittsburgh.

          the fact that our D is keeping their mouth shut and not pointing any fingers is truely a credit to their professionalism. They should be commended not labeled chokers. They are not chokers - Bledsoe is.
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          • ghz in pittsburgh
            Registered User
            • Aug 2004
            • 5861

            #6
            Re: I have no problem with Jets being rated higher than the Bills

            Funny you should mention that. I have a secret to tell you.

            I am not sold on our defense.

            Under GW and JG, the Bills defense has evolved into a gambling defense, living on big plays. They blitz mad and got results, but you also notice that their 3rd down ratio (preventing people convert 3rd downs) are not really good.

            Facing good teams especially like a Steelers who is not known for big plays but steady yards eating offense, this kind of defense can be in trouble if they don't get off fields on 3rd downs regularly. It was evident to me that by the 4th Qtr, the Steelers were getting the upper hand and it really didn't matter that they put 3rd stringers in there: they wore down our D.

            Until our defense learned to clamp down on opponents 3rd down conversion, I have a lot of reservations about this defense. Forget about being one of the all time best D they talk about. We don't have a single player on D who can single handedly change a game, who kept opposing offensive coordinators sleepless at night. Right now we are relying on schemes, sending people from all over the place to make things happen. But you know what, for every scheme we have, a smart offensive coordinator can create a coutering scheme. We need a Javon Kearse (in his best year) type of player who can always make things happen no matter what kind of schemes they throw at us.

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            • ublinkwescore
              Sab and TD are insignificant
              • Sep 2002
              • 24178

              #7
              Re: I have no problem with Jets being rated higher than the Bills

              So TKO doesn't have game changing abilities?

              So if he doesn't make that INT in the Pittsburgh game and they score on that drive, that's not a game changing play?

              did the blackbear get another screen name?

              Name a D that doesn't have it's meltdowns?

              NE did last year against the sorry fins O.

              The proof is in the yards surrendered, and the Turnovers forced.
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              • ublinkwescore
                Sab and TD are insignificant
                • Sep 2002
                • 24178

                #8
                Re: I have no problem with Jets being rated higher than the Bills

                Nate Clements isn't a game changer?

                Thanks to him, we cut Pittsburgh's lead in that game (a Willis McGahee or Evans TD took the lead for us later on in the game).
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                • footballhottie
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 9776

                  #9
                  Re: I have no problem with Jets being rated higher than the Bills

                  I sure am sick of being third Remember the good ol days when we were on top

                  The OG attention whore. 18 Billszone years strong

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                  • madness
                    Registered User
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 13690

                    #10
                    Re: I have no problem with Jets being rated higher than the Bills

                    When you look at our D last year, you have to consider our horrid O.

                    ghz in pittsburgh said it best...
                    they wore down our D.
                    I don't care how good a defense is, if the offense can't chew up the clock it's a lost cause.

                    If the O can hold up and do that this year...watch out! There's no reason our D can't surpass what they did last year.

                    Time of pos.

                    Steelers - 35:03
                    Bills - 24:57 Steelers won 29-24

                    49ers - 25:03
                    Bills - 34:57 Bills won 41-7

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                    • BleedinGreenNC
                      Registered User
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 1679

                      #11
                      Re: I have no problem with Jets being rated higher than the Bills

                      Originally posted by footballhottie
                      I sure am sick of being third Remember the good ol days when we were on top
                      It will be a great battle for the top spot between the Pat's Jets and Bills

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                      • madness
                        Registered User
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 13690

                        #12
                        Re: I have no problem with Jets being rated higher than the Bills

                        Originally posted by BleedinGreenNC
                        It will be a great battle for the top spot between the Pat's Jets and Bills
                        No doubt!

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                        • ghz in pittsburgh
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 5861

                          #13
                          Re: I have no problem with Jets being rated higher than the Bills

                          I never view Clements as a game changing CB. Deion Sanders was. In his heydays, his cleared out one side of the field because QBs wouldn't throw to his side. When they did, he intercepted the balls. Clements still got beat too many times to my liking.

                          TKO is as close to a game changing player we got. But he dissappears in stretches in games. Ray Lewis, in his best days, seemed to be involved in every play when he's on the field. Coaches always say that Lewis has an uncanny nose for a play and the football. TKO displays some of that trait, breaking off his normal assignment to make a play, like the examples you cited. He just does not do that with enough regularity.

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                          • jdbillsfan
                            Registered User
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 1071

                            #14
                            Re: I have no problem with Jets being rated higher than the Bills

                            Originally posted by ghz in pittsburgh
                            I never get into the "respect" argument with other fans because it really means absolutely nothing to me. The only thing matters is what you put on the score sheet.

                            But in terms of evaluating team quality, I'd place Jets ahead of the Bills right now. The Bills lost to the Steelers at home, against their 2nd and 3rd stringers, in a game that means playoff or not for the Bills. the Jets won at San Diego in a playoff game; pretty much took Steelers to the woodshed in Pittsburgh with Pennington's supposedly injured arm and all before their kicker screwed up big time. Also this draft saw Jets had a first rounder whereas the Bills did not. Why would anyone think the Jets should be rated behind the Bills? It's not like the Bills replaced Bledsoe with a proven QB like Brady in the off season.

                            However you look at it, the Bills will have their hands full this season, playing 4 games against playoff hardened Pats and Jets.
                            I am not really sure what the point of this post is, but we split with the Jets last year and should have won them both if not for a missed kick I believe? The two teams played each other twice last year, so it seems if you want to compare the two teams, you would compare them that way instead of how Buffalo played against Pittsburgh in the last game of the season and how the Jets played Pittsburgh in the playoffs? Of course the Jets should be ranked higher right now, because they went farther than Buffalo last year, but thats about it. Maybe I am missing something.

                            Is there a big Bills should be ranked higher than the Jets controversy that I don't know about?

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                            • HeadSquad69
                              Internet Grammar Police reporting for duty!!!
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 168

                              #15
                              Re: I have no problem with Jets being rated higher than the Bills

                              The Jets will finish 10-6. Buffalo 11-5. Nuff said!

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