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  • Earthquake Enyart
    Legendary Zoner
    • Jul 2002
    • 27521

    My Take on the Game

    I was at the game Friday. My thoughts:

    1. The first team OL looked ok vs. the Bear DL. But when Big Mike went out, Jerman was no match for Ogunle. He pretty much blew.

    2. Duke spent a lot of time at guard with Tucker at C. That second line of Jerman, Preston, Tucker, Sobieski, and ? were not impressive.

    3. I did not see McFarlane in the game.

    4. Duke did the long snapping and did ok. From where I was, the snap and hold on the Lindell extra point miss looked ok.

    5. As I predicted, the Bills ran Hutchinson right into oblivion. The Bears announced that Orton will be the starter, and Hutchinson dropped all the way to #4 behind Orton, Blake (calm down wys), and Kurt Kittner. Kittner played for new OC Ron Turner at Illinois, so it is no surprise that he will stick around. However, Orton's big drive came against the entire 2nd team Buffalo D.

    6. Well, JP may be the third best QB we have, since they cut Woodbury. They may as well install the wishbone and run the option.

    7. On that long Thomas Jones run, it looked like Clemens blew that. It was like he didn't know where to line up. The Bills try to hide D's and shift around. They are suceptable to a quick snap, quick hitting type of play.
  • casdhf
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 17542

    #2
    Re: My Take on the Game

    Originally posted by Earthquake Enyart
    I was at the game Friday. My thoughts:

    1. The first team OL looked ok vs. the Bear DL. But when Big Mike went out, Jerman was no match for Ogunle. He pretty much blew.

    2. Duke spent a lot of time at guard with Tucker at C. That second line of Jerman, Preston, Tucker, Sobieski, and ? were not impressive.

    3. I did not see McFarlane in the game.

    4. Duke did the long snapping and did ok. From where I was, the snap and hold on the Lindell extra point miss looked ok.

    5. As I predicted, the Bills ran Hutchinson right into oblivion. The Bears announced that Orton will be the starter, and Hutchinson dropped all the way to #4 behind Orton, Blake (calm down wys), and Kurt Kittner. Kittner played for new OC Ron Turner at Illinois, so it is no surprise that he will stick around. However, Orton's big drive came against the entire 2nd team Buffalo D.

    6. Well, JP may be the third best QB we have, since they cut Woodbury. They may as well install the wishbone and run the option.

    7. On that long Thomas Jones run, it looked like Clemens blew that. It was like he didn't know where to line up. The Bills try to hide D's and shift around. They are suceptable to a quick snap, quick hitting type of play.
    I agree with all, but the Preston snap was off, but Lindell should have made the kick.
    Originally posted by BillsZone Mod
    cas,

    I'm just letting you know that you have been given 2 points for telling Wys AKA Mark to kill himself.

    BillsZone Mod

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    • Jan Reimers
      Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
      • May 2003
      • 17353

      #3
      Re: My Take on the Game

      It was probably Peters and Geisinger on the 2nd O line. Sobieski is on IR.
      Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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      • Earthquake Enyart
        Legendary Zoner
        • Jul 2002
        • 27521

        #4
        Re: My Take on the Game

        Originally posted by Jan Reimers
        It was probably Peters and Geisinger on the 2nd O line. Sobieski is on IR.
        You're right. Peters was the other tackle, and Geisinger was the G.

        All second team OLmen were not impressive.

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        • Earthquake Enyart
          Legendary Zoner
          • Jul 2002
          • 27521

          #5
          Re: My Take on the Game

          And one other thing.... Urlacher is faster than McGahee. I was hoping to see Willis regain that extra gear, but to me, he doesn't look any faster than last year.

          They way they bungled two goaline situations has me second guessing Willis' fantasy value.

          I was very disappointed in the way Losman looked. Even Shane Matthews looked better.

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          • madness
            Registered User
            • Apr 2003
            • 13690

            #6
            Re: My Take on the Game

            Originally posted by Earthquake Enyart
            And one other thing.... Urlacher is faster than McGahee. I was hoping to see Willis regain that extra gear, but to me, he doesn't look any faster than last year.

            They way they bungled two goaline situations has me second guessing Willis' fantasy value.

            I was very disappointed in the way Losman looked. Even Shane Matthews looked better.
            I noticed (the lack of) McGahee's speed also compared to last year.

            Losman will get better the more game time he has, and I'm not talking about the rest of preseason. He needs full games under his belt.

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            • Typ0
              honey pie
              • Jul 2002
              • 32592

              #7
              Re: My Take on the Game

              What losman needs is a little consistent success. I think he still isnt't totally on the moment...he's over thinking things. He's got to have some success and with that he will have the confidence to make decisions. It's a good thing we are playing the Texans...and I hope he really starts to gain this by the second half of a real game. He's going to be fine I think.

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              • HHURRICANE
                Registered User
                • Mar 2005
                • 15490

                #8
                Re: My Take on the Game

                1) I agree with the Willis comment. He does not have another gear. If he stays healthy though he will be a powerful runner. He is alot bigger now than when he was in college, about 20 pounds heavier.

                2) You are way off on Losman. If you watch the game and replays you realize that he made some mistakes but he was not nearly as bad as you think.

                3) Lindell sucks. The snap and put down was not perfect but the kick was makeable. I watched it over and over and he should have not missed the kick. PERIOD.

                4) Offensive line made some blocking mistakes along with Shelton, RB's and wide receivers.

                5) The whole team played badly.

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                • Earthquake Enyart
                  Legendary Zoner
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 27521

                  #9
                  Re: My Take on the Game

                  Goldsberry can't block at FB either. I don't think he makes this team.

                  The Bears have a good defense. Give them some credit. They had a lot of injuries last year.

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                  • mysticsoto
                    Too sober for this...
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 31439

                    #10
                    Re: My Take on the Game

                    Originally posted by HHURRICANE
                    1) I agree with the Willis comment. He does not have another gear. If he stays healthy though he will be a powerful runner. He is alot bigger now than when he was in college, about 20 pounds heavier.

                    2) You are way off on Losman. If you watch the game and replays you realize that he made some mistakes but he was not nearly as bad as you think.

                    3) Lindell sucks. The snap and put down was not perfect but the kick was makeable. I watched it over and over and he should have not missed the kick. PERIOD.

                    4) Offensive line made some blocking mistakes along with Shelton, RB's and wide receivers.

                    5) The whole team played badly.
                    #5...The whole team played badly??? The whole team means you are including the defense and special teams with this broad generalization?

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                    • justasportsfan
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 71579

                      #11
                      Re: My Take on the Game

                      Originally posted by Earthquake Enyart
                      1. The first team OL looked ok vs. the Bear DL. But when Big Mike went out, Jerman was no match for Ogunle. He pretty much blew.

                      2. Duke spent a lot of time at guard with Tucker at C. That second line of Jerman, Preston, Tucker, Sobieski, and ? were not impressive.
                      to think that they were in there as early as the 2nd qtr. and some people sound like the sky is falling.

                      Some people don't realize that the bills were trying to run the ball more. The plan wasn't to showcase JP's ability to make probowl this year.

                      The positive thing I gathered from that game is that JP is starting to connect w/ Moulds. That to me is the most important thing for our passing game aside from our running game opening up the pass. I knew that wasn't going to just happen overnight. They aren't there yet, but they are getting there.
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                      • John Doe
                        Florida Man
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 2516

                        #12
                        Re: My Take on the Game

                        Originally posted by Earthquake Enyart
                        I was very disappointed in the way Losman looked. Even Shane Matthews looked better.
                        Maybe in preseason we should bring in Losman against the second string defense. That way he will look better.

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                        • Jan Reimers
                          Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
                          • May 2003
                          • 17353

                          #13
                          Re: My Take on the Game

                          Originally posted by Earthquake Enyart
                          You're right. Peters was the other tackle, and Geisinger was the G.

                          All second team OLmen were not impressive.
                          EE, you didn't recognize Peters - the guy who is Faster Than a Speeding Bullet, and Able to Leap Tall Buildings in a Single Bound?
                          Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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                          • HHURRICANE
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 15490

                            #14
                            Re: My Take on the Game

                            Originally posted by mysticsoto
                            #5...The whole team played badly??? The whole team means you are including the defense and special teams with this broad generalization?
                            Special teams: Clements fumbling a punt return, Lindell missing an extra point.

                            Defense: Do you call allowing 6 yards per carry on the ground by an average rushing team good?

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                            • Earthquake Enyart
                              Legendary Zoner
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 27521

                              #15
                              Re: My Take on the Game

                              Originally posted by Jan Reimers
                              EE, you didn't recognize Peters - the guy who is Faster Than a Speeding Bullet, and Able to Leap Tall Buildings in a Single Bound?
                              They ran a lot of plays where Peters was an elligible receiver.

                              As far as the 6 ypc goes, Jones had that one long run. If you take the long runs away it wasn't too bad.

                              Plus the Bears went out and got big name FA OL's the last 2 years, Tait and Miller. Their line is better than ours.

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