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FlyingDutchman
09-07-2005, 04:04 PM
I guess Villarial hurt his ankle today and may be out Sunday. Good thing we have so much depth on our O line:scared: . The season hasnt even started yet.

Typ0
09-07-2005, 04:19 PM
I hope to heck Donohoe doesn't come out saying this is one of the things beyond his control!

Pride
09-07-2005, 04:19 PM
where'd ya hear this?

If its true... how much do you think we miss Tucker already???

I still cant believe we released him!

FlyingDutchman
09-07-2005, 04:33 PM
where'd ya hear this?

If its true... how much do you think we miss Tucker already???

I still cant believe we released him!
www.billsdaily.com (http://www.billsdaily.com)

justasportsfan
09-07-2005, 04:35 PM
where'd ya hear this?

If its true... how much do you think we miss Tucker already???

I still cant believe we released him!why do you think we kept all those wr's? Wilson and Aiken can play Ol if asked to.

Nic82
09-07-2005, 05:01 PM
We need to look at Steve Sciullo!

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=79481

BillsFanCupp38
09-07-2005, 05:03 PM
how good does ross tucker look now eh???

X-Era
09-07-2005, 05:12 PM
Personally, I will NEVER miss Tucker. I just wasnt that impressed. I think Preston will do just fine.

If your point is that our o-line depth is weak, I absolutely agree! I lobbied here a few days back to upgrade some of our backups from the last round of cuts. I would have liked to see some players like:

Mike Compton, Anthony Clements, CJ Brooks yet we stuck with who we have. None of those guys is a C but any would have been better than our current depth. Im a little worried that yet again our o-line depth is weak and costs us games.

Im fine with our starters except for the penalties from Anderson. But after the starters we are pretty darn slim.

Jan Reimers
09-07-2005, 05:16 PM
We need to look at Steve Sciullo!

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=79481
We need to bring back Tucker, if he's healthy. He knows our system.

X-Era
09-07-2005, 05:19 PM
OK, just did some scouring of the cuts, yes they were cut but someone has to be at least a competition to Preston at C:

Brett Romberg
Vince Carter
Ben Claxton

Not alot to choose from.

Im gonna look at backups as in a trade next.

X-Era
09-07-2005, 05:34 PM
OK, I scanned the depth charts from NFL.com for names that stuck out to me at backup C. Personally I think we may be fine with Preston but im willing to feed the sky is falling folks.

These are the BACKUPS that seem familiar to me:
Cinn- Ben Wilkerson
CHI- Roberto Garza
Dal- Andre Gurode
GB- Grey Reugamer- also backups up at G
Scott Welss- also backups up at G
Min- Adam Goldberg
KC- Chris Bober
NO- Jamar Nesbit
NE- Russ Hochstein- also backup G
SF- Eric Heitmann
Sea- Chris Spencer
Pitt- Chucky Okobi
Was- Corey Raymer

Overall, Im a bit pleasantly suprised in a way. The rest of the league doesnt seem to be too deep on the OL either. Im not really sure any of these guys is a serious upgrade to Preston. But sure, there are some guys here with potential. Problem is, if we trade for one in hopes of saving a few games until Teague gets back [Thats if you assume not having Teague will costs us games] and you trade for one of these guys, you basically are telling Preston he isnt our future at C.

X-Era
09-07-2005, 05:36 PM
OK, I scanned the depth charts from NFL.com for names that stuck out to me at backup C. Personally I think we may be fine with Preston but im willing to feed the sky is falling folks.

These are the BACKUPS that seem familiar to me:
Cinn- Ben Wilkerson
CHI- Roberto Garza
Dal- Andre Gurode
GB- Grey Reugamer- also backups up at G
Scott Welss- also backups up at G
Min- Adam Goldberg
KC- Chris Bober
NO- Jamar Nesbit
NE- Russ Hochstein- also backup G
SF- Eric Heitmann
Sea- Chris Spencer
Pitt- Chucky Okobi
Was- Corey Raymer

Overall, Im a bit pleasantly suprised in a way. The rest of the league doesnt seem to be too deep on the OL either. Im not really sure any of these guys is a serious upgrade to Preston. But sure, there are some guys here with potential. Problem is, if we trade for one in hopes of saving a few games until Teague gets back [Thats if you assume not having Teague will costs us games] and you trade for one of these guys, you basically are telling Preston he isnt our future at C.
BTW, Chris Specer was a 1`st rounder, not likely we could or would even try to land him even if we felt we needed a potential star.

ddaryl
09-07-2005, 05:57 PM
If Tucker's back was in bad shape he wasn't going to be worth keeping on the roster.

Preston had a real good preseason so he'll probably get the nod at RG.

However once again bills fans freak out like the little girls they are and cry DOOMED any chance they get

DOOMED DOOMED DOOMED

ParanoidAndroid
09-07-2005, 06:02 PM
If Tucker's back was in bad shape he wasn't going to be worth keeping on the roster.

Preston had a real good preseason so he'll probably get the nod at RG.

However once again bills fans freak out like the little girls they are and cry DOOMED any chance they get

DOOMED DOOMED DOOMED
:rofl:

Jan Reimers
09-07-2005, 06:04 PM
If Tucker's back was in bad shape he wasn't going to be worth keeping on the roster.

Preston had a real good preseason so he'll probably get the nod at RG.

However once again bills fans freak out like the little girls they are and cry DOOMED any chance they get

DOOMED DOOMED DOOMED
Oh, come on, you just don't want to admit that the sky is falling and the season is lost. :crap:

ddaryl
09-07-2005, 06:09 PM
The Bills have depth at OL

We have 2 OL on IR Smith, Lawrence (http://buffalobills.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=47883), and Sobieski, Ben (http://buffalobills.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=122596)
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and 2 OL on the practice squad [url="http://buffalobills.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=122632"]McFarland, Dylan (http://buffalobills.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=122632), Esposito, Jasen (http://buffalobills.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=122628)

the practice squad players can be called up , and the IR guys will return to duty.

All 4 of these guys played in our system some last year. So I'm not sure why everyones freaking out about our OL, and the players we kept. Obviously the Bills coaches kept the players active that deserve to make the squad, put 2 OL on IR who are banged up, and placed 2 OL on the Practice squad to get more seasoning and be avaialble for call up.

ddaryl
09-07-2005, 06:11 PM
Oh, come on, you just don't want to admit that the sky is falling and the season is lost. :crap:Damn straight.

nothing but a big over flowing dish of optomism being served up by me. I just cannot get behind the negative nancies. Too many Bills fans have reduced themsleves to doom and gloomers.

FlyingDutchman
09-07-2005, 06:15 PM
Who is freaking out that the sky is falling and the season is over?? I havent seen one post in this thread like that. Everyone is simply discussing the event. Where is anyone freaking out? Where still gonna reck s*** this Sunday and every Sunday, everyone relax, nobody is scared.

ddaryl
09-07-2005, 06:20 PM
Billsfancupp38 made a Tucker reference, a guy let go because his back is screwed. There are posts once again desperately searching the waiver wire for Ol help.

there are also numerous posts in other threads about the Bills OL, who we cut who we kept and nuemrous references to TD being the problem, which IMO is th ebiggest joke going.

and there is only a matter of a post or 3 before we start seeig the negative comments... I'm just jumping the gun, but we all know it will happen

Injuries happen, and our coaches kept the best players on the team who could fill in for an injured player.

Nic82
09-07-2005, 06:30 PM
Billsfancupp38 made a Tucker reference, a guy let go because his back is screwed. There are posts once again desperately searching the waiver wire for Ol help.

there are also numerous posts in other threads about the Bills OL, who we cut who we kept and nuemrous references to TD being the problem, which IMO is th ebiggest joke going.

and there is only a matter of a post or 3 before we start seeig the negative comments... I'm just jumping the gun, but we all know it will happen

Injuries happen, and our coaches kept the best players on the team who could fill in for an injured player.
I don't see panic, I just see Bills fans debating on how to improve their beloved team, which is the purpose of these message boards.


GO BILLS!

OpIv37
09-07-2005, 07:34 PM
glad to see that some people refuse to see how an injury to a starter on the weakest area of our team is anything to be concerned about. No-name backup linemen protecting a quarterback with 0 game experience- now there's a recipe for success!

Mr. Cynical
09-07-2005, 07:46 PM
As I said in an earlier thread (below), mark my words.

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=78890

mysticsoto
09-07-2005, 08:07 PM
Let's not forget also, that if need be, Bannan can play Guard and did decent last year. I know they said the "experiment" is over, but if need be, he could fill in. I think that might be a reason they felt comfortable letting Ross Tucker go...

ddaryl
09-07-2005, 08:20 PM
I don't see panic, I just see Bills fans debating on how to improve their beloved team, which is the purpose of these message boards.




GO BILLS!


In this thread I over-reacted, but its rampant on all of the Bills message boards. It gets on my nerves after awhile.

Throne Logic
09-07-2005, 09:27 PM
The Bills have depth at OL

We have 2 OL on IR Smith, Lawrence (http://buffalobills.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=47883), and Sobieski, Ben (http://buffalobills.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=122596)
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and 2 OL on the practice squad [url="http://buffalobills.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=122632"]McFarland, Dylan (http://buffalobills.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=122632), Esposito, Jasen (http://buffalobills.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=122628)

the practice squad players can be called up , and the IR guys will return to duty.

All 4 of these guys played in our system some last year. So I'm not sure why everyones freaking out about our OL, and the players we kept. Obviously the Bills coaches kept the players active that deserve to make the squad, put 2 OL on IR who are banged up, and placed 2 OL on the Practice squad to get more seasoning and be avaialble for call up.

I thought IR during the preseason meant "done for the season"?

OpIv37
09-07-2005, 10:13 PM
I thought IR during the preseason meant "done for the season"?

I think there's an option to re-activate players on IR at week 8- if they're left on IR it means they're done for the season.

Mr. Cynical
09-07-2005, 11:58 PM
I think there's an option to re-activate players on IR at week 8- if they're left on IR it means they're done for the season.
I'm not so sure it will matter at that point.

Tinboy
09-08-2005, 02:10 AM
Preston starting...

Of course I'm al little worried he's a rookie, but I will have faith in him.

The_Philster
09-08-2005, 02:58 AM
IR means done for the season..Smith and Sobieski won't be back in 2005
It's the PUP list where players can come back around midseason...Kevin Thomas and Kevin Everett