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Mr. Cynical
09-12-2005, 11:39 PM
Although he only tossed for 156 yds and an INT, he still made some very nice throws to go with his 11 att/68 yds/1 td on the ground.

Bottom line: he wins.
TacklingDummy
09-13-2005, 12:05 AM
Some people don't consider him a proven winner.
JD
09-13-2005, 12:30 AM
Some people don't consider him a proven winner.
I think that was the first thing you said that didnt come out of your ass
TacklingDummy
09-13-2005, 12:41 AM
If ya got nothing nice to say about other people who post, why post at all?
JD
09-13-2005, 12:44 AM
It was a compliment :bf1:
TacklingDummy
09-13-2005, 12:48 AM
Thanks.

I tend to piss off some people with my posts.
JD
09-13-2005, 12:57 AM
Thanks.

I tend to piss off some people with my posts.

Hmm. Havn't noticed.... :peace:
Jan Reimers
09-13-2005, 07:18 AM
Vick is a great runner who will win some games with his legs. If contained and forced to throw - which some teams will make him do - he will lose some games with his arm. He is a great athlete, but not a great QB.
Gunzlingr
09-13-2005, 08:12 AM
Vick is a great runner who will win some games with his legs. If contained and forced to throw - which some teams will make him do - he will lose some games with his arm. He is a great athlete, but not a great QB.

:bf1:
TigerJ
09-13-2005, 08:54 AM
I still think he is a great athlete playing QB, as opposed to a great QB. I certainly think you can win with Vick/a great athlete playing QB. If I had my druthers though, I'd want a great QB instead on my team.
LtFinFan66
09-13-2005, 10:24 AM
He sucks as a QB. He was missing receivers on deep balls by 10 yards. I totally doubt him as a QB but he is a fantastic athlete
ublinkwescore
09-13-2005, 10:27 AM
Hmm. Havn't noticed.... :peace:

:snicker:
gr8slayer
09-13-2005, 10:37 AM
The guy is not a QB.
MikeInRoch
09-13-2005, 10:41 AM
I doubt him because I started him in fantasy football and lost this week because of his three turnovers! If he had held it to 2, I'd have won.
STAMPY
09-13-2005, 10:56 AM
sure looked like a qb on that pass to jenkins
helmetguy
09-13-2005, 11:36 AM
sure looked like a qb on that pass to jenkins
That was one success among how many failures? He's still an Option QB playing an option offense.
jdbillsfan
09-13-2005, 11:48 AM
Without Vick, they lose. They aren't a good team when Vick is not playing QB. He wins games and makes plays. He is not a great fantasy QB, but when he starts and plays for the falcons, they win.
finsrclowns
09-13-2005, 12:29 PM
He made a few nice throws early in this game but by and large he was like he usually is- not very accurate. He also fumbled twice (both lost) and got picked. The Falcons won because they rushed for 200 yards, 68 by Vick and their defense played very well. Vick gets by with his athleticism and running ability. As a passer he has a strong arm but I'd rank him at the very bottom of the league accuracy wise. Having said that he is a winner although McNabb is the better QB of the two.
Crisis
09-13-2005, 02:56 PM
For every play Vick makes you say "Wow" he makes two or three where you're wondering WTF was he doing?

Doesn't he get sacked more than Bledsoe? Countless fumbles as well.

Vick didn't win. The Falcons D did.
SquishDaFish
09-13-2005, 04:38 PM
He should be a RB not a QB.
Mr. Cynical
09-13-2005, 04:40 PM
sure looked like a qb on that pass to jenkins
Yep...and on a few others as well. And remember, this is the first season he's had the same system two years in a row. Time will tell but my bet is he proves doubters wrong.
STAMPY
09-13-2005, 04:48 PM
bottomline. you may hate his style but guess what, he wins games. look at wat atlanta did when he went down
Mr. Cynical
09-13-2005, 04:58 PM
yep
Luisito23
09-13-2005, 06:30 PM
I don't doubt Vick, it's only 1 game, his passing was questionable, but his game overall was not.
Mike took the Falcons to the championship game last year, and beat them yesterday, he'll continue to get better and if he remains healthy Atlanta will continue to win....



GO BILLS!!!!!!!
Cntrygal
09-13-2005, 06:50 PM
What exactly am I voting on? Do I doubt that he's a premier QB? Or do I doubt that he's a RB in a QB position?
Mr. Cynical
09-13-2005, 07:43 PM
The former :up:
Nighthawk
09-13-2005, 07:55 PM
He will never be a great QB. Great athlete? No doubt! Great QB...not even close. He is so inaccurate, that you cannot call him a good QB. And please don't bring up that one bomb to Jenkins...that's all it was, one play. You have to look at him on all his other throws. He has no touch, he throws the ball way too hard on the short/dump off routes. He doesn't make very good decisions with the ball. I'm sorry, but he is just a hype machine. As I said before, great athlete, but not even close to being a great QB.
BillsFever21
09-13-2005, 07:59 PM
Right now he's not a great QB but he could be in the future. It's hard to believe him and Losman are the same age. Vick has 4 years of experience on him.
LarryBoy
09-13-2005, 09:24 PM
Vick is a great running back who can make throws once in awhile.
Mr. Cynical
09-13-2005, 11:43 PM
Right now he's not a great QB but he could be in the future. It's hard to believe him and Losman are the same age. Vick has 4 years of experience on him.
Actually, if you look at his stats, he hasn't played a full season yet:

2001: 8
2002: 15
2003: 5
2004: 15

If he can stay healthy this year, he will finally gain some momemtum.
Marvelous
09-14-2005, 04:53 AM
I wonder how man secretly wanna see him go down.. A QB that fast imo is borderline cheating or so unfair that it will make sense that he gets hurt. If he's so great then why doesn't he throw nice passes all game or some of the game atleast. He's all arm strength and that's it as far as QB skills. For some reason i just can't stand him.
Cntrygal
09-14-2005, 09:33 AM
The former :up:

okay
casdhf
09-14-2005, 10:13 AM
Actually, if you look at his stats, he hasn't played a full season yet:

2001: 8
2002: 15
2003: 5
2004: 15

If he can stay healthy this year, he will finally gain some momemtum.
That right there is the reason he won't be a great QB, his style leads him to get hurt and miss action at least once or twice a season. I doubt this one will be any different.
Mr. Cynical
09-14-2005, 11:51 AM
That right there is the reason he won't be a great QB, his style leads him to get hurt and miss action at least once or twice a season. I doubt this one will be any different.
Steve Young and Randall Cunningham pulled it off....I think Vick can as well. He'll learn to use his arm more over time. He's still only 24.
casdhf
09-20-2005, 07:35 AM
That right there is the reason he won't be a great QB, his style leads him to get hurt and miss action at least once or twice a season. I doubt this one will be any different.

Steve Young and Randall Cunningham pulled it off....I think Vick can as well. He'll learn to use his arm more over time. He's still only 24.
Bump.
casdhf
09-20-2005, 07:36 AM
Not pointing the figer at you, cynical. But, he can't go a season without missing time.
NJFINSFAN1
09-20-2005, 10:14 AM
Actually, if you look at his stats, he hasn't played a full season yet:

2001: 8
2002: 15
2003: 5
2004: 15

If he can stay healthy this year, he will finally gain some momemtum.
He is hurt for the upcoming game!
Mr. Cynical
09-20-2005, 03:56 PM
Not pointing the figer at you, cynical. But, he can't go a season without missing time.
That's true. I can't argue that point. However I still think he is and can be an elite QB. He is only 24 and is still in the early stages of his career. And when he is in the game, Atlanta wins more often than not, which is ultimately what matters. Time will tell I guess.

Put it this way, would you rather face Vick or Shaub on Sunday? :;
Crisis
09-20-2005, 05:51 PM
He's a black Bledsoe that can run.

And less durable. Fumbles more too.
casdhf
09-20-2005, 06:08 PM
That's true. I can't argue that point. However I still think he is and can be an elite QB. He is only 24 and is still in the early stages of his career. And when he is in the game, Atlanta wins more often than not, which is ultimately what matters. Time will tell I guess.

Put it this way, would you rather face Vick or Shaub on Sunday? :;
I'd just as soon face any teams back-up QB over their starter. The Falcons are no different.
Mr. Cynical
09-20-2005, 08:57 PM
I'd just as soon face any teams back-up QB over their starter. The Falcons are no different.
You would have rather faced Brady the backup than Bledsoe the starter in NE?
Mr. Cynical
09-25-2005, 02:33 PM
And to think there are people here that wanted to face Vick instead of Shaub. :cynic:

So much for the "glorified RB" moniker. He is throwing TDs as well as running all over the place, and this is when he is not 100%.

Still doubt him?
Lexwhat
09-25-2005, 03:28 PM
And to think there are people here that wanted to face Vick instead of Shaub. :cynic:

So much for the "glorified RB" moniker. He is throwing TDs as well as running all over the place, and this is when he is not 100%.

Still doubt him?
I certainly DID want to face Vick for this game, but not for the reason other people wanted to. I kept defending Vick, saying he is a playmaker while many others kept saying he was overrated. "Oh hes a good RB but a bad QB." People just in that damn hype...My reason for facing Vick was that it would have been a big boost for our team if we beat the Vick-led Falcons.

Guess we didnt beat them.