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  • Ebenezer
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    • Jul 2002
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    How much of the blame goest to JP?

    Gotta ask. The team looked pretty ragged all around. The officiating didn't really fall our way. The OL was Swiss cheese...but in the end the defense gave JP 3 drives to bring the Bills back. Based on what many posters thought that Bledsoe blew the game Monday night for the Cowboys I got to ask...

    How much of the loss against the Falcoms do we blame on JP??




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  • OpIv37
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    • Sep 2002
    • 101261

    #2
    Re: How much of the blame goest to JP?

    He blew it on the 12 yard sack on the first drive. He blew it with the INT. He blew it with the fumble at the end (he actually had time on that play), he missed some wide open receivers and was generally off the mark al day.

    But he didn't give up 200 yards rushing- that was the D's fault. If they could have held Atlanta in check, the 16 points might have been enough. I'd say 45% Defense, 45% JP and 10% **** officiating.
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    • AndreReed83
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      • Mar 2004
      • 1621

      #3
      Re: How much of the blame goest to JP?

      For this game: everyone needs to share it equally except for Lindell. I know Losman blew it at the end, but if the defense doesn't play like a bunch of idiots at the beginning of the game, maybe Losman isn't having to play comeback at the end of the game. Pretty bad performance all around.


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      • Philagape
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        • Jul 2002
        • 19432

        #4
        Re: How much of the blame goest to JP?

        If I had to rank the Bills' problems against Atlanta, I'd have to make JP No. 1.

        But there are many others, and I now officially consider this a rebuilding year. No matter how good or bad our QB might be, we don't have a playoff O-line and we don't have a playoff defense, especially if Spikes is gone. So we might as well leave JP in so he'll have a season under his belt next year.
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        • hammerbillsfan
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          • Aug 2005
          • 17878

          #5
          Re: How much of the blame goest to JP?

          Originally posted by OpIv37
          But he didn't give up 200 yards rushing- that was the D's fault. If they could have held Atlanta in check, the 16 points might have been enough. I'd say 45% Defense, 45% JP and 10% **** officiating.
          As soon as Takeo went out, they just busted our ass up the middle, Duckett was tough.

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          • Ebenezer
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            • Jul 2002
            • 73867

            #6
            Re: How much of the blame goest to JP?

            Originally posted by hammerbillsfan
            As soon as Takeo went out, they just busted our ass up the middle, Duckett was tough.
            Actually, at the game it appeared they ran right over Posey and Kelsay.




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            • DaBills
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              • Sep 2004
              • 1206

              #7
              Re: How much of the blame goest to JP?

              I have to disagree just barely that JP was our main problem against Atlanta. The D was, but imo they're both right there at the top.

              I have to say on O the blame has to fall with JP. Yeah the line was bad and deserves blame, but on those deep routes where he had time but blew the throw, that's not their fault. They also were pretty good in run blocking allowing WM to get a 140. JP's the leader so he has to step up and shoulder the responsibility.

              The D gave the O chances at the end yes, but conversely, if they had held Atlanta to fewer points, they might not have needed to.
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              • Romes
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                • Jul 2002
                • 5766

                #8
                Re: How much of the blame goest to JP?

                I say its about 50% JP's fault and 50% the running D's fault. If one of those had an average game we would probably have won.
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                • Fairway
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 42359

                  #9
                  Re: How much of the blame goest to JP?

                  you've stated 3 JP bashing threads already Eb. You are obsessed with hate

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                  • Ebenezer
                    Give me a minute...
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 73867

                    #10
                    Re: How much of the blame goest to JP?

                    Originally posted by Fairway
                    you've stated 3 JP bashing threads already Eb. You are obsessed with hate
                    please be fair...

                    1 JP hate thread
                    1 Chris Meyers opinion thread
                    1 Pro DB thread






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                    • Mr. Cynical
                      Maybe?
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 9766

                      #11
                      Re: How much of the blame goest to JP?

                      This isn't tennis.

                      It is a team game.

                      JP doesn't play defense.

                      JP doesn't catch the passes.

                      JP doesn't block.

                      Rinse, repeat.

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                      • Ebenezer
                        Give me a minute...
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 73867

                        #12
                        Re: How much of the blame goest to JP?

                        Mr. Cynical 9/25/05:

                        Originally posted by Mr. Cynical
                        This isn't tennis.

                        It is a team game.

                        JP doesn't play defense.

                        JP doesn't catch the passes.

                        JP doesn't block.

                        Rinse, repeat.
                        Eb round about December last year:

                        It is a team game.

                        DB doesn't play defense.

                        DB doesn't catch the passes.

                        DB doesn't block.

                        Rinse, repeat.

                        Are we on the same page now?




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                        • Iehoshua
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                          • Jan 2003
                          • 12906

                          #13
                          Re: How much of the blame goest to JP?

                          Originally posted by Ebenezer
                          1 Pro DB thread
                          This alone warrants a 7-day ban...


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                          • Mitchy moo
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                            • Sep 2005
                            • 18380

                            #14
                            Re: How much of the blame goest to JP?

                            Originally posted by Mr. Cynical
                            This isn't tennis.

                            It is a team game.

                            JP doesn't play defense.

                            JP doesn't catch the passes.

                            JP doesn't block.

                            Rinse, repeat.
                            Actually I disagree,

                            'JP doesn't play defense' - JP by not getting more than 75 yards passing played for Atlanta's defense today.

                            The same for the rest of them, Whatever he is lacking the other team is gaining.

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                            • PromoTheRobot
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                              • Sep 2003
                              • 2311

                              #15
                              Re: How much of the blame goest to JP?

                              Originally posted by OpIv37
                              He blew it on the 12 yard sack on the first drive.
                              Are you talking about the sack where they ran the stop watch and the Falcons rush was on JP in like 1.8 seconds? And he kept trying to get away as more famcons were pouncing on him and our the O-line stood around like "duhhhh"? Kind of harsh to say JP "blew it." What about the O-line?

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