Some People need to get a fricken grip

[THATHURMANATOR]

What did some of you expect? Did you really think JP would come in there and light it up right away? Did you not expect what is happening to happen? How many Qbs have you seen come in and do well right away? How can you make the assumption that a Player is a bust because of 3 career starts? Listen to yourselves. Almost EVERYONE wanted Bledsoe gone last year now that he is Donahoe is and idiot and made a HUGE mistake. The kid needs to play PERIOD. Screw Kelly Holcomb being the starter. HE NEEDS EXPERIENCE..

[OpIv37]

Re: Some People need to get a fricken grip

What did some of you expect? Did you really think JP would come in there and light it up right away? Did you not expect what is happening to happen? How many Qbs have you seen come in and do well right away? How can you make the assumption that a Player is a bust because of 3 career starts? Listen to yourselves. Almost EVERYONE wanted Bledsoe gone last year now that he is Donahoe is and idiot and made a HUGE mistake. The kid needs to play PERIOD. Screw Kelly Holcomb being the starter. HE NEEDS EXPERIENCE..

true. Just don't expect to win.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Re: Some People need to get a fricken grip

I am not. Especially with Spikes out.

[Jan Reimers]

Re: Some People need to get a fricken grip

What did some of you expect? Did you really think JP would come in there and light it up right away? Did you not expect what is happening to happen? How many Qbs have you seen come in and do well right away? How can you make the assumption that a Player is a bust because of 3 career starts? Listen to yourselves. Almost EVERYONE wanted Bledsoe gone last year now that he is Donahoe is and idiot and made a HUGE mistake. The kid needs to play PERIOD. Screw Kelly Holcomb being the starter. HE NEEDS EXPERIENCE..

Great, great post.

[Mudflap1]

Re: Some People need to get a fricken grip

Did you expect to have J.P. Losman throw for 300 yards in three games? Did you expect Moulds and Evans to have basically no production?

I don't want to bench the guy yet, but geez, he's gotta start showing us SOMETHING.

And yes, I'm glad Bledsoe is gone for obvious reasons, but it's a little bit embarrassing to see him throw for 5x as many yards as Losman, putting up 30+ points.

He's facing adversity, let's see how he responds.

Jon

[Earthquake Enyart]

Re: Some People need to get a fricken grip

Did you expect to have J.P. Losman throw for 300 yards in three games? Did you expect Moulds and Evans to have basically no production?

I don't want to bench the guy yet, but geez, he's gotta start showing us SOMETHING.

And yes, I'm glad Bledsoe is gone for obvious reasons, but it's a little bit embarrassing to see him throw for 5x as many yards as Losman, putting up 30+ points.

He's facing adversity, let's see how he responds.

Jon

Did you expect to be 31st in passing offense?

[dominizzo]

Re: Some People need to get a fricken grip

What did some of you expect? Did you really think JP would come in there and light it up right away? Did you not expect what is happening to happen? How many Qbs have you seen come in and do well right away? How can you make the assumption that a Player is a bust because of 3 career starts? Listen to yourselves. Almost EVERYONE wanted Bledsoe gone last year now that he is Donahoe is and idiot and made a HUGE mistake. The kid needs to play PERIOD. Screw Kelly Holcomb being the starter. HE NEEDS EXPERIENCE..

RJ Loserman sucks, even I admit I didn't think he'd be another akili smith, but you guys should start holcomb, he gives you the best chance at competing unless you are purposely trying to pack it in so you can draft leinart than i understand the reasoning behind keeping ferry boy in the line up.

[Mudflap1]

Re: Some People need to get a fricken grip

Passing Leaders
	NAME	COM	ATT	PCT	YDS	YPA	LNG	TD	TD%	INT	INT%	SK	SYD	RAT
1	B. Roethlisberger QB, PIT	35	60	58.3	688	11.47	85	6	10.0	0	.0	5.0	27	131.8
2	C. Palmer QB, CIN	69	97	71.1	786	8.10	70	8	8.2	2	2.1	3.0	16	114.0
3	D. Bledsoe QB, DAL	63	98	64.3	850	8.67	70	6	6.1	2	2.0	6.0	49	103.7
4	D. McNabb QB, PHI	77	126	61.1	964	7.65	68	8	6.3	2	1.6	5.0	22	99.4
5	K. Collins QB, OAK	63	116	54.3	873	7.53	73	6	5.2	0	.0	5.0	28	95.9
6	T. Dilfer QB, CLE	69	104	66.3	822	7.90	80	4	3.8	2	1.9	4.0	20	95.1
7	M. Bulger QB, STL	73	113	64.6	870	7.70	44	6	5.3	3	2.7	15.0	106	94.6
8	B. Leftwich QB, JAC	49	83	59.0	627	7.55	45	4	4.8	1	1.2	11.0	46	93.8
9	M. Hasselbeck QB, SEA	61	98	62.2	769	7.85	48	4	4.1	2	2.0	5.0	37	91.8
10	E. Manning QB, NYG	47	88	53.4	689	7.83	44	5	5.7	2	2.3	5.0	32	88.7
11	Tom Brady QB, NWE	78	123	63.4	948	7.71	71	3	2.4	2	1.6	5.0	47	88.4
12	M. Brunell QB, WAS	28	48	58.3	361	7.52	70	2	4.2	1	2.1	6.0	57	87.2
13	Drew Brees QB, SDG	52	80	65.0	575	7.19	33	4	5.0	3	3.8	6.0	62	87.2
14	B. Griese QB, TAM	51	77	66.2	488	6.34	41	4	5.2	3	3.9	5.0	30	84.8
15	S. McNair QB, TEN	61	101	60.4	675	6.68	53	4	4.0	3	3.0	6.0	28	81.1
16	P. Manning QB, IND	53	87	60.9	604	6.94	51	2	2.3	2	2.3	0.0	0	79.9
17	K. Warner QB, ARI	64	101	63.4	696	6.89	45	1	1.0	2	2.0	9.0	68	78.7
18	M. Vick QB, ATL	38	69	55.1	446	6.46	58	3	4.3	2	2.9	7.0	52	77.3
19	T. Green QB, KAN	56	98	57.1	658	6.71	49	1	1.0	1	1.0	4.0	27	76.8
20	Tim Rattay QB, SFO	45	76	59.2	541	7.12	89	5	6.6	5	6.6	7.0	35	75.6
21	B. Favre QB, GNB	73	112	65.2	738	6.59	42	5	4.5	7	6.3	7.0	47	72.7
22	J. Delhomme QB, CAR	49	92	53.3	651	7.08	53	4	4.3	4	4.3	6.0	58	72.3
23	G. Frerotte QB, MIA	58	112	51.8	623	5.56	60	5	4.5	3	2.7	2.0	8	72.1
24	C. Pennington QB, NYJ	49	83	59.0	530	6.39	37	2	2.4	3	3.6	9.0	52	70.9
25	A. Wright QB, BAL	44	71	62.0	426	6.00	25	2	2.8	3	4.2	8.0	65	70.5
26	J. Plummer QB, DEN	58	103	56.3	651	6.32	26	2	1.9	3	2.9	5.0	39	69.7
27	A. Brooks QB, NOR	57	101	56.4	766	7.58	66	2	2.0	5	5.0	8.0	44	66.7
28	D. Culpepper QB, MIN	64	99	64.6	769	7.77	68	3	3.0	8	8.1	12.0	54	64.8
29	J. Losman QB, BUF	38	79	48.1	358	4.53	42	1	1.3	1	1.3	7.0	57	60.0
30	J. Harrington QB, DET	34	65	52.3	363	5.59	51	3	4.6	5	7.7	5.0	26	52.3
31	David Carr QB, HOU	25	47	53.2	237	5.04	28	1	2.1	3	6.4	13.0	104	47.9
32	Kyle Orton QB, CHI	46	88	52.3	440	5.00	28	1	1.1	6	6.8	5.0	28	41.9

Carr has played only two games. It's very conceivable Losman will be last in the league in passing yards very soon, if not total rating.

Discuss.

Jon

[HAMMER]

Re: Some People need to get a fricken grip

Many people posting in this thread were climbing all over the media for saying Losman would have growing pains. Now all of the sudden they are on the other side of the fence. Hmmm.

He is essentially a rookie, you don't learn a lot on the sidelines. A QB has to be on the field to develop timing, adapt to the speed of the pro game, etc. It takes time, two QB's in the last twenty years have lit it up in their first year of action. There is a reason for that.

[Earthquake Enyart]

Re: Some People need to get a fricken grip

Many people posting in this thread were climbing all over the media for saying Losman would have growing pains. Now all of the sudden they are on the other side of the fence. Hmmm.

He is essentially a rookie, you don't learn a lot on the sidelines. A QB has to be on the field to develop timing, adapt to the speed of the pro game, etc. It takes time, two QB's in the last twenty years have lit it up in their first year of action. There is a reason for that.

Plus we'll have a great draft pick next year!

[Brad528]

Re: Some People need to get a fricken grip

Passing Leaders
	NAME	COM	ATT	PCT	YDS	YPA	LNG	TD	TD%	INT	INT%	SK	SYD	RAT
1	B. Roethlisberger QB, PIT	35	60	58.3	688	11.47	85	6	10.0	0	.0	5.0	27	131.8
2	C. Palmer QB, CIN	69	97	71.1	786	8.10	70	8	8.2	2	2.1	3.0	16	114.0
3	D. Bledsoe QB, DAL	63	98	64.3	850	8.67	70	6	6.1	2	2.0	6.0	49	103.7
4	D. McNabb QB, PHI	77	126	61.1	964	7.65	68	8	6.3	2	1.6	5.0	22	99.4
5	K. Collins QB, OAK	63	116	54.3	873	7.53	73	6	5.2	0	.0	5.0	28	95.9
6	T. Dilfer QB, CLE	69	104	66.3	822	7.90	80	4	3.8	2	1.9	4.0	20	95.1
7	M. Bulger QB, STL	73	113	64.6	870	7.70	44	6	5.3	3	2.7	15.0	106	94.6
8	B. Leftwich QB, JAC	49	83	59.0	627	7.55	45	4	4.8	1	1.2	11.0	46	93.8
9	M. Hasselbeck QB, SEA	61	98	62.2	769	7.85	48	4	4.1	2	2.0	5.0	37	91.8
10	E. Manning QB, NYG	47	88	53.4	689	7.83	44	5	5.7	2	2.3	5.0	32	88.7
11	Tom Brady QB, NWE	78	123	63.4	948	7.71	71	3	2.4	2	1.6	5.0	47	88.4
12	M. Brunell QB, WAS	28	48	58.3	361	7.52	70	2	4.2	1	2.1	6.0	57	87.2
13	Drew Brees QB, SDG	52	80	65.0	575	7.19	33	4	5.0	3	3.8	6.0	62	87.2
14	B. Griese QB, TAM	51	77	66.2	488	6.34	41	4	5.2	3	3.9	5.0	30	84.8
15	S. McNair QB, TEN	61	101	60.4	675	6.68	53	4	4.0	3	3.0	6.0	28	81.1
16	P. Manning QB, IND	53	87	60.9	604	6.94	51	2	2.3	2	2.3	0.0	0	79.9
17	K. Warner QB, ARI	64	101	63.4	696	6.89	45	1	1.0	2	2.0	9.0	68	78.7
18	M. Vick QB, ATL	38	69	55.1	446	6.46	58	3	4.3	2	2.9	7.0	52	77.3
19	T. Green QB, KAN	56	98	57.1	658	6.71	49	1	1.0	1	1.0	4.0	27	76.8
20	Tim Rattay QB, SFO	45	76	59.2	541	7.12	89	5	6.6	5	6.6	7.0	35	75.6
21	B. Favre QB, GNB	73	112	65.2	738	6.59	42	5	4.5	7	6.3	7.0	47	72.7
22	J. Delhomme QB, CAR	49	92	53.3	651	7.08	53	4	4.3	4	4.3	6.0	58	72.3
23	G. Frerotte QB, MIA	58	112	51.8	623	5.56	60	5	4.5	3	2.7	2.0	8	72.1
24	C. Pennington QB, NYJ	49	83	59.0	530	6.39	37	2	2.4	3	3.6	9.0	52	70.9
25	A. Wright QB, BAL	44	71	62.0	426	6.00	25	2	2.8	3	4.2	8.0	65	70.5
26	J. Plummer QB, DEN	58	103	56.3	651	6.32	26	2	1.9	3	2.9	5.0	39	69.7
27	A. Brooks QB, NOR	57	101	56.4	766	7.58	66	2	2.0	5	5.0	8.0	44	66.7
28	D. Culpepper QB, MIN	64	99	64.6	769	7.77	68	3	3.0	8	8.1	12.0	54	64.8
29	J. Losman QB, BUF	38	79	48.1	358	4.53	42	1	1.3	1	1.3	7.0	57	60.0
30	J. Harrington QB, DET	34	65	52.3	363	5.59	51	3	4.6	5	7.7	5.0	26	52.3
31	David Carr QB, HOU	25	47	53.2	237	5.04	28	1	2.1	3	6.4	13.0	104	47.9
32	Kyle Orton QB, CHI	46	88	52.3	440	5.00	28	1	1.1	6	6.8	5.0	28	41.9

Carr has played only two games. It's very conceivable Losman will be last in the league in passing yards very soon, if not total rating.

Discuss.

Jon

Maybe its not the player it may be the system the Bills are trying to run. I mean look how good Drew is doing now and how he played at NE maybe its just that the Bills suck as I so often believe

[Mudflap1]

Re: Some People need to get a fricken grip

I have my fingers crossed that J.P. will throw for 1000 yards this entire season.

If I really wanted to make a commotion, I could make an argument that J.P. Losman would be third or fourth string on USC right now behind Leinart, John David Booty, and Mark Sanchez (number 1 QB recruit last year from Mission Viejo).

I won't go there though,

Jon

[Mudflap1]

Re: Some People need to get a fricken grip

Maybe its not the player it may be the system the Bills are trying to run. I mean look how good Drew is doing now and how he played at NE maybe its just that the Bills suck as I so often believe

Scary, but true.

Jon

[slakjaw157]

Re: Some People need to get a fricken grip

What did some of you expect? Did you really think JP would come in there and light it up right away? Did you not expect what is happening to happen? How many Qbs have you seen come in and do well right away? How can you make the assumption that a Player is a bust because of 3 career starts? Listen to yourselves. Almost EVERYONE wanted Bledsoe gone last year now that he is Donahoe is and idiot and made a HUGE mistake. The kid needs to play PERIOD. Screw Kelly Holcomb being the starter. HE NEEDS EXPERIENCE..

I don't think anyone expected JP to come in here and light it up. I think consistant play, completing passes to OPEN receivers, scrambling a little bit, and minimizing turnovers is what was expected, very similiar to Big Ben last year.

[dominizzo]

Re: Some People need to get a fricken grip

I have my fingers crossed that J.P. will throw for 1000 yards this entire season.

If I really wanted to make a commotion, I could make an argument that J.P. Losman would be third or fourth string on USC right now behind Leinart, John David Booty, and Mark Sanchez (number 1 QB recruit last year from Mission Viejo).

I won't go there though,

Jon

I'm not sure what the Bills organization saw in this guy, especially to give up what they did to draft him in the first round? He played on TULANE, they are a sucky college team in a sucky conference. I saw a few games they played on the road and he was clueless in college too. You need a good GM that can evaluate talent better and bring some good football players to your team or your never going anywhere!