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Hey neg nancies...I mean this in the nicest way....
Shut up about Holcomb, J.P. is still our starter! 
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Re: Hey neg nancies...I mean this in the nicest way....
Well said.Originally posted by mybillsShut up about Holcomb, J.P. is still our starter! 
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Re: Hey neg nancies...I mean this in the nicest way....
Originally posted by mybillsShut up about Holcomb, J.P. is still our starter!
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Couldn't have said it better myself doggy!!!
GO BILLS!!!!!!!
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Thank You mybills!Comment
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J.P. stinks right now. He is not even close being ready to compete at this level. Believe it. I guess you will see another example Sunday in San Antonio.Comment
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Absolutely agree.Originally posted by mybillsShut up about Holcomb, J.P. is still our starter!
Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?
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Re: Hey neg nancies...I mean this in the nicest way....
ok...then the next question is if we are 4-12 whose fault is it going to be? I've said so many times...this is not a bad football team for some kid to be cutting their teeth on. People keep making all those comparisons about other young QBs. With the exception of maybe Eli...all of those guys played for just plain bad teams that were clearling beginning the rebuilding process. So I guess it's OK JP is going to be ready in two years...and the plethora of talent we have assembled here will have been and gone. What will that be seven years without a playoff berth for this franchise? I'm really excited about that. I just hope he comes out with his head in the game this week. This is the NFL and our team has a giant fork in it if he doesn't perform this week.
My patience is wearing quite thin. I had no problem with the GW mess and the long road it's been to rebuild this team. We've all been through this. How long does it take to rebuild a franchise a decade? Seems to me we rebuilt...and the foundation was wrong so we're going to have to tear it up and start over. Lets win a damn game against a beatable team I'm sick of the Bills being the laughing stock of the league.Comment
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Eli? Do you mean Big Ben? And if you dont, then what about Ben?Originally posted by Typ0Comment
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Re: Hey neg nancies...I mean this in the nicest way....
I meant that Eli took a decent football team last year and drove it into the ground. That's the exception of young QBs who get started on crappy teams....ie there is no comparison between most of the guys we are making comparisons about. Mostly, they were on teams that weren't going anywhere to begin with...so it was a great opportunity for the teams to let the young QBs learn and take a season or two to build a team around them. Now SOME OF THEM are showing some success.Originally posted by Lexwhat
Big Ben is a good counter arguement. Things seemed to click in PIT for him and they were able to go on and win games. I also have some valid counter arguements like PIT's entire system does not value the passing game like ours does. But I don't want to banter back and forth about this that and the other thing. As a matter of fact...I don't even care if JP fails miserably as long as he's trying to do what he can do well. If he gets burned then so be it.
I just don't like seeing him show up with nothing and then hoping the rest of the team can get by. If he keeps doing that then I'm on his ass. As far as I'm concerned if he's got to learn the hard way then thats something we're going to have to go through...but he's not even delving into the process of learning the hard way the way he's been playing. I don't want to go through weeks of ignorance because we all insist we are behind him and then start the process of his learning the hard way.
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JP GO OUT THERE THIS WEEK AND PLAY YOUR ASS OFF. DON'T BE AFRAID TO TAKE CHANCES YOU JUST MIGHT FIND SOME SUCCESS!Comment
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If the Bills finish the season 4-12 it will be more than just JP's fault and it will be very difficult to say that this would be a playoff team if Holcomb or Bledsoe or anyone other than McNabb or P.Manning was the QB. Right now the defense is dead last in the NFL in rushing defense by a w-i-d-e margin--teams don't make a serious run at the playoffs or a title with a defense that gets its butt handed to it on the ground regularly the way that this defense has the last two weeks.Originally posted by Typ0
Now, there's no doubt that JP has stunk in those two games and has to play better, but he's not the only thing wrong with this team right now and won't be the sole cause of this team finishing 4-12 if it does--because the defense that everyone keeps pointing to as being capable of making this a playoff team simply hasn't been that good and isn't playing like a playoff caliber defense right now. If they start to play like a playoff caliber defense and JP continues to stink, then you can say something about JP costing the rest of the team a run at a playoff berth, but right now you can't. But, then again, if the defense starts to play like a playoff caliber defense, this team won't finish 4-12 either.Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. And, thus it was that they surrendered their freedom; not with a bang, but without even a whimper.Comment
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This kid is going to **** us over in the end, no question about it. Why waste a season on some rookie who is not even prepared for the NFL level?“You hold a players only meeting and get each guy to stand up and say what he can bring to the table... and if he doesn't, you punch him in the face.” ~~ Harry Neale, on how to fix the Sabres season.Comment
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because he'll never be prepared if we don't. Most every young QB goes through some growing pains. As much as I wanna win now, I ain't gonna ignore such an obvious factOriginally posted by JD SabreFanComment
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Re: Hey neg nancies...I mean this in the nicest way....
so do you think throwing holcomb in for a game will kill jp? i would think it make him try harder to get better....but at the same time kill his confidence.“You hold a players only meeting and get each guy to stand up and say what he can bring to the table... and if he doesn't, you punch him in the face.” ~~ Harry Neale, on how to fix the Sabres season.Comment
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