Moving on to the Fins game

[justasportsfan]

IMO, we have to depend on our D and ST to win this game. I am not going to depend on our O to do anything. I don't expect anything from them. Tired of getting disappointed.

Either we blitz the hell out of Gus like we did against Vick or we stack the box w/ 8 and make Gus beat us.

I say we blitz Gus into making mistakes. Vick beat us w/ his legs especially on 3rd downs. So did Brooks. Our D kept trying to contain those mobile qb's in the pocket that they kept escaping up the middle at times. This also helped them run the ball when we kept focusing on the qb's.

Gus doesn't have the capability to move but we cannot underestimate Brown . Our running game is our weakness. I expect them to pound our D w/ Bown.

They had their bye week to prepare against us. Blitzing them should put a beating on Gus into submission.

What would you rather our D do?

[justasportsfan]

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On O we do the same, run the ball and then exploit their weakness which is their secondary.

[Jan Reimers]

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I agree that by all out blitzing Vick (and to some extent Brooks), we overpursued and played right into the strength of two good running QBs. Blitzing Frerotte, who is not nearly as mobile as Vick and Brooks, should work well. Frerotte is more of a pocket passer who might pick us apart if we don't get good pressure on him.

On O, I'd like to see Willis carry the ball 30 times, with JP throwing just enough to keep them honest. (Wasn't that supposed to be our season game plan, anyway?)

[NJFINSFAN1]

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On O we do the same, run the ball and then exploit their weakness which is their secondary.

Yes, but that is your weakness also (passing). If you blitz, you will see McMike over the middle and Brown for swing passes. We also use that fast pass to Chambers alot, so your corners will have to be up tight.

It will be a good hard fought game!

[Static]

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Yes, but that is your weakness also (passing). If you blitz, you will see McMike over the middle and Brown for swing passes. We also use that fast pass to Chambers alot, so your corners will have to be up tight.

It will be a good hard fought game!

Yeah but Gus has alot of incomplete passes too..so if Buffalo gets pressure on Gus it could make for a long day....our Oline wull need to play well....but at least they wont have Reggie"please give me butter cause i am toast"Howard to pick on but that will leave some inexperience in our secondary........

[NJFINSFAN1]

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Yeah but Gus has alot of incomplete passes too..so if Buffalo gets pressure on Gus it could make for a long day....our Oline wull need to play well....but at least they wont have Reggie"please give me butter cause i am toast"Howard to pick on but that will leave some inexperience in our secondary........

Yeah, that's true. I look for McMike over the middle, quick slants to Chambers and swing's or screens to Brown, along with pounding Brown up the middle. It will be a good game.

[mysticsoto]

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I think the only way we win this game is to place a spy on McMichael when he goes over the middle and the rest of the LBs play up to stop Ronnie. The secondary will have to be on their own one on one. Given that Gus frequently makes bad throws, it's a chance worth taking. And we will also need to blitz Milloy and sometimes Clements or other CBs to vary. If you stop the run and make it a 1 dimensional game, chances are, the Dolphins will connect with some big plays, but more often that not, may miss. As long as we can also score (a big IF at this point), we would then take the game.

The Oline needs to play HARD and not put out the crap they've been putting out lately!!!

[justasportsfan]

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Yes, but that is your weakness also (passing). If you blitz, you will see McMike over the middle and Brown for swing passes. We also use that fast pass to Chambers alot, so your corners will have to be up tight.

It will be a good hard fought game!

If we run the ball well, we should be able to open up the pass. The fins' secondary is the weakest one we'll face since the texans. My problem is whether our Ol can handle JT and co. to give JP time to throw. This is why we need to run successfully.

[NJFINSFAN1]

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If we run the ball well, we should be able to open up the pass. The fins' secondary is the weakest one we'll face since the texans. My problem is whether our Ol can handle JT and co. to give JP time to throw. This is why we need to run successfully.

Which has been our strength, stopping the run. Traylor has made a world of difference for us, he is to our team what Pat Williams was to your team, you guys miss him!

[don137]

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The Bills turned the season around last year against the fins. Nothing like a little mahi mahi on the menu on Sunday to give the team some confidence

[justasportsfan]

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Which has been our strength, stopping the run. Traylor has made a world of difference for us, he is to our team what Pat Williams was to your team, you guys miss him!

this is whats interesting, although we haven't used it much (thanks to the coaches) our run is our strength supposedly

I will expect the fins to blitz JP as well and keep attempting to confuse Jp w/ different defensive looks.

[Dolphinatic]

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I think you're right in having to take some chances on D. It's not that our O is really that good yet, but you probably need to make some things happen in order to help your own O out. Gus hasn't been spectacular, but he's done what's needed and hasn't made many mistakes. And he's had his moments - that highlight one-handed TD catch by Chambers last game was a great catch, but also a pretty impressive throw, 45 yards to a perfect spot while backing away from a rusher. He's only thrown 3 INTs.

The O-line, so miserable last year, has been surprisingly good (new OL coach Hudson Houck does seem to be the miracle worker he was billed as) - two sacks in three games, and they even started to run-block OK in our last game (Ronnie getting 132 vs. Carolina). The new O under Linehan is much more flexible than previous ones, and there will be an array of plays available to burn you if you stack the box, or blitz but can't reach Gus. Unlike previous years, the Fins will take its shots downfield if you dare them to, and Gus has hit a 40-plus-yard TD in each of the two games we won.

Even so, I think you should be aggressive on D, and hope that this is the week our O-line, and/or Gus, have their first really bad days and you get some turnovers.

On offense, you're in a tricky spot. The matchup isn't that great. We practically gave the game to the Jets with key penalties and some dropped passes, but on the drive they won the game with, Chad was throwing absolute ducks that still found receivers wide open in the zones. The next week, Steve Smith had a field day in the Panthers' loss (11 catches, 170 yards). So Miami's been thrown on, and Z.Thomas admitted afterwards that the D has been getting caught out of position trying to make adjustments in the new system (much more complex and variable than in years past).

The problem for you is, nobody's yet "established the run" to open up the pass. None of the three opponents has gained 100 on the ground as a team, let alone have a 100-yard rusher. And all three QBs have been veterans, not a new kid whose confidence you're trying to build. We have 7 sacks - not a spectacular number, but we're getting pressure as well as shutting down the run. And in this D, pass rushers can come from anywhere - again, not an ideal situation for a quasi-rookie.

Still, you need to take your shot at running on us, and have JP throw into our secondary. So long as the game is close, you can try to get him settled in with short passes, but don't expect to move the ball well that way - you really need to take your shots downfield when they're available, hoping your OL holds up and JP has a breakout game.

Jets fans don't like to hear it (understandably) but Miami could easily have won that game to be 3-0 now. Penalties, mistakes and blown coverages made the difference - no big surprise for a team running new systems on both sides of the ball. It was bound to happen. The Bills might need to hope it happens again, and be willing to take some risks to put the pressure on Miami's O-line and defensive secondary.

[justasportsfan]

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well said dolphinatic.

[Samphin1]

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On O we do the same, run the ball and then exploit their weakness which is their secondary.

If Willis and Shaud try running between the tackles, they won't go anywhere but backwards. Traylor and Thomas have done a great job stopping that, from preseason until now. However, if you bounce it outside and get Willis on our corners ( read: Madison ), you should have some success. Madison cannot tackle and probably won't even bother trying. Willis is strong enough to avoid being pushed out of bounds too.

Travis Daniels, however, does tackle, and looks natural doing it. If I was Willis, I would ask for a few runsoutside to see if you can establish anything.


When you are on D, fele free to blitz. So far this season, Gus has done a good job of avoiding the rush and the O-line has sustaine dlong enough for him to at least get a throw off. One thing I like about Gus is that he isn't really forcing passes. If it is there, he tries to get it there, if it isn't, he checks down or throws it away. He is keeping us in games doing this.

Having said tha, I expect McMichael to have a big day, as could Brown in the passing game. No need to throw into your strength on defense ( seocndary ) when we can run all day and get away with dinking and dunking. We will take a few shots downfield to keep them honest, but for the most part, I expect short, quick, passes.

[ScottLawrence]

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Stop blitzing so damn much.

We need to play more gap defense, and shut down the run.

Grays a maniac when its comes to blitzing, and teams just counter it with running the ball that go for big gains, which is why we are last at stopping the run.

If he stops blitzing so much, and plays more gap defense, we wouldn't be as bad against the run as we are now.

1)Don't blitz as much in this game
2) Run the Ball all game, stop forcing Losman to win games for us.

Clements's play calling has been horrible, First rush of the game last week for McGahee was a counter for 25 yards, I didn't see the same play called until the 3rd quarter.

He needs to pull his head out of his pass happy ass, and start running the damn ball more.

Give McGahee 30 to 40 rushes in this game.

As badly as we have played the last 3 weeks, we are still only one game out of first in the AFC East, the next two weeks are very important, and we could salvage the season, winning these two games against Division foes.