And the Quarterback Controversy begins.....

[Michael82]

Thanks Ralph! I guarantee that he's the reason why they are going to be doing this. It's the kind of thing that he's known for.

You not only destroy the confidence (if there was any left) of your rookie QB. You destroy the team's confidence in Losman and the coaching staff. The players know that Mularkey wouldn't do this without being forced and you could hear it in his voice. Mularkey is pissed. So am I! You also delay the future and make it so now the learning process and bumps taken with your rookie QB will get pushed back. This is a dumb move! And it really pisses me off that they would do this. This also makes me remember the Bills/Titans playoff game, where Rob Johnson was promoted to the starter for the game, even though Doug Flutie was the starter the whole season. And we all remember that old RJ/DF controversy. This is crap!

[LtBillsFan66]

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What happened?

[WCoastFin]

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Thanks Ralph! I guarantee that he's the reason why they are going to be doing this. It's the kind of thing that he's known for.

You not only destroy the confidence (if there was any left) of your rookie QB. You destroy the team's confidence in Losman and the coaching staff. The players know that Mularkey wouldn't do this without being forced and you could hear it in his voice. Mularkey is pissed. So am I! You also delay the future and make it so now the learning process and bumps taken with your rookie QB will get pushed back. This is a dumb move! And it really pisses me off that they would do this. This also makes me remember the Bills/Titans playoff game, where Rob Johnson was promoted to the starter for the game, even though Doug Flutie was the starter the whole season. And we all remember that old RJ/DF controversy. This is crap!

this sounds just like a post that I posted a few minutes ago in another thread, here is what I had to say...

wow, if this is the case indeed, what a shocker....Forget about destroying JP Losman's confidence, this is going to shatter the whole team's confidence, not to mention, it goes to show how much confidence Mularkey has in his QB's.....QB carousel here we go, I'm lovin it! LMAO!

[Michael82]

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this sounds just like a post that I posted a few minutes ago in another thread, here is what I had to say...

Damn, I share the same thoughts as you? That's scary.

[DBrown77]

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Do we know that Holcomb is the starter?
I think we're jumping the gun

[Michael82]

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Do we know that Holcomb is the starter?
I think we're jumping the gun

Did you listen to Mike Mularkey's press conference? He didn't say anything about the starter and didn't even give JP Losman the usual vote of confidence. IF JP Losman is starting, than Coach Mularkey is doing a great job at pulling the wool over everybody's eyes.

[Michael82]

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Here's the press conference...

http://www.buffalobills.com/player/?FILE_300=http://play.rbn.com/?url=nfl/nfl/open/bills/demand/05audio/100505mularkey.rm&proto=rtsp

[Mudflap1]

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Mikey,

Everyone sees what is happening to us. ESPN and FOX Sports are commenting on the disarray of the front office, the coaching, the poor play so far of J.P. Losman. The fans are irate with the coaching and Tom Donahoe, and nobody is happy that the team is losing and Losman is struggling.

I cannot blame Ralph Wilson, who must be very tired of this at this point, to at least TRY to right the ship and show some leadership. Where else is the leadership with this franchise? Tom Donahoe just makes excuses and dodges questions. Mularkey's press conference was a joke. He couldn't answer any question of any significance. "I'm not going to comment on this at this time." What is that? Take a stance man! Say "this is what we're doing, and why." You think the Dolphins are going to be that much shocked over Holcomb walking out of the tunnel Sunday than Losman? Please. I'm sure Nick Saban is shaking in his boots right now..

I, like all of us, wants to see J.P. Losman succeed. The braintrust of this team (Donahoe and Mularkey) both came out and said this team was better than last year, and that Losman would take the team further. Can you blame the owner and the fans for possibly getting their collective hopes up? Now that the team is 1-3, the buck keeps getting passed. The guy you should be pissed off at is Tom Donahoe, with Mike Mularkey as a close second. They are showing ZERO leadership and ZERO guts. Take some accountability for crying out loud!

Given the poor offseason decision of handing over a supposedly "playoff-ready" team to an unproven quarterback unconditionally, along with not improving the offensive and defensive lines, would take its toll on us, and it is. I want to see Losman succeed, and with the offseason moves, the team basically made the choice of having Losman sink or swim this season with no other real alternatives, and it looks like the team as a whole is overrated. I don't think Holcomb is the answer, but I can understand the sentiment of the owner to want to try to spark SOMETHING to happen.

Mike Mularkey's first obligation is to be Tom Donahoe's boy. Tom Donahoe is an appeaser, instead of a leader who resolves issues. It's no wonder that there is pandering going on at One Bills Drive.

If you are the CEO of a major corporation, you oversee what is going on, and if you feel you need to speak up, you do, that's what CEO's do. I cannot blame Wilson for stepping in and trying to be a leader. CEO's are leaders. That doesn't mean the Mularkey and Donahoe have to listen to him. If they were real leaders, they would do what they think is right.

Ralph Wilson is obviously no spring chicken, I cannot blame him for not wanting to go out on his legacy as a loser.

That being said, if J.P. Losman starts Sunday, I will root hard for him and hope he starts to improve, and that the team wins. If Kelly Holcomb starts, I will cheer as loudly for him, and hope that we win.

But don't blame Ralph Wilson, blame Tom Donahoe and Mike Mularkey.

Jon

[Novacane]

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But don't blame Ralph Wilson, blame Tom Donahoe and Mike Mularkey.

Jon

Who hired TD and then gave him a contract extension this offseason eventhough we have sucked since he took over?

[Mudflap1]

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Who hired TD and then gave him a contract extension this offseason eventhough we have sucked since he took over?

Hey man, I'm not happy about this whole ordeal either, I'm just saying that I don't blame Wilson for going in and possibly sounding off to Mularkey and Donahoe. Can you? If they are truly the leaders running the personnel moves of this team, they should've said "he's starting, because he's ready to turn the corner" if they truly believed in him. Instead, Tom Donahoe is nowhere to be seen and Mike Mularkey is clammering in his shoes like the novice that he just might be.

No, Donahoe shouldn't have gotten a contract extension, I think we're all in agreement with that. However, do we know if the money is guaranteed or not? I bet it's not. Why would Wilson agree to that? This isn't a player's salary, and Donahoe's not exactly what I would call a hot commodity these days.

Jon

[Novacane]

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Hey man, I'm not happy about this whole ordeal either, I'm just saying that I don't blame Wilson for going in and possibly sounding off to Mularkey and Donahoe. Can you? If they are truly the leaders running the personnel moves of this team, they should've said "he's starting, because he's ready to turn the corner" if they truly believed in him. Instead, Tom Donahoe is nowhere to be seen and Mike Mularkey is clammering in his shoes like the novice that he just might be.

That I agree with 100%. If Ralphy ordered this which I believe he did then those 2 should have grown a pair and told him they make the FB decisions.

[Mudflap1]

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Agreed.

Jon

[kinigirly]

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There have been 2 constants in this ongoing saga of disappointing season after season: Ralph Wilson and Tom Donahue. Talk about making JP a scapegoat! If this is true, I'm about to call everyone I know to strike on Bills Drive. We are the laughing stock of the NFL. JP, the team, and the league should know that we do not support this insanity and lack of stability. Peyton Manning was 3 for 13 his first season, this is no different. JP is OUR quarterback and we will watch him learn this season, he should not miss one game unless he is injured. STRIKE STRIKE STRIKE!!!!

[Michael82]

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That I agree with 100%. If Ralphy ordered this which I believe he did then those 2 should have grown a pair and told him they make the FB decisions.

I agree. But why would you tell your owner no? He's the one that signs your paychecks and could fire u anytime.

[Mudflap1]

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Mikey, have you ever worked for a corporation? I'm not being a smart-ass. Bosses are notorious, especially in multi-million dollar companies, to come in and blow a fuse and chew your ass out. It happens. If you are any good at all, you have the poise to say, in the right way, "we're handling it, please let me do my job, and here's how I'm going to do it." If Tom Donahoe and Mike Mularkey can't stand up to an 86 year-old man and tell him that they are the football decision makers that he hired, I don't feel sorry for them.

Perhaps it's time for Ralph Wilson to inflate Otto the autopilot to replace our resident Leslie Nielsen look-alike, Tom Donahoe. Worst case scenario we'll just get some more hot air from somebody that doesn't answer any questions. Sound familiar?

Jon