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I thought that winning a few games wasnt good enough, I thought we were committed to winning a SB, does anybody really think Holcomb can do that? Using what evidence from his experience again? Obviously I dont believe he can do it because he hasnt shown it for any team yet. But I am willing to respect your opinion if you think he can.
IMO, we went to 4 straight in large part because we had a playoff and SB caliper QB in Kelly. Furthermore, he had an attitude where he was more than willing to jack this squad up and force wins.
Since the SB years, I have not seen any signs of having the mental toughness to go back to the SB again. No one else at any other position has stepped up and filled those shoes. Over and over we see lack of mental toughness, even today. I see that type of attitude in Losman. He may never have the talent or decision making to be any good and that leadership may just go to waste, but IMO we just dont have enough evidence to make that determintaion yet.
This team is not now and has not been the Pats type of a team. We dont hold a candle to them as far as mental toughness. If the rest of the team is mentaly tough enough, you very well can go to the playoffs and/or SB with a non-playoff or SB caliper QB. Ltes face it, we dont have that situation, right now, not since our SB years, and maybe never. That means that recipe just wont work for the Bills. It may work for Car (with Delhomme), STL (with Warner) or some of the other teams. But look what happened when Warner went to a team that didnt have the mental toughness the Cards, they basically look like we do.
The Bills and many fans apparently feel they have seen enough in 4 games. I respectfully disagree. But, just to indulge that thought:
If it isnt Holcomb, and it isnt Losman, who is it? and how do we get that person?
FA? please! you want to add a true leader with playoff and/or SB caliper proven talent through FA? with a GM who holds his money tighter that Scrooge? No way in hell we pay for that. A trade? sure, sounds good, who gives up their proven playoff/SB leader QB again? NO ONE!
Your stuck with one choice, build your own. Well, we were trying to do that and find out if it was Losman but 4 games in abandonded that plan. We werent willing to invest the games necessary in him to find out.
So, again, If it isnt Holcomb (and we havent seen anything in his career yet to say it is), and it isnt Losman, then who is it? how do we get that person? When do we finally start down that path?
If Holcomb comes in and wins us a few more games so that we end up say 5 and 11 or better, we will NOT have the #1 pick and therefore will NOT get Linehart. To me there isnt ANYONE else that looks like a real possibility to be a SB type QB, maybe Marcus Vick comes out. He carries very heavy off the field baggage, does anyone belive that is the type of character that fills Kellys shoes? Trade up for Linehart, OK, that will take a kings ransom, aare we all willing to do that? is our Scrooge GM TD?
It doesnt look pretty and starting Holcomb just catapulted us through an ugly forest where we are hitting every branch.
Id love to see some real discussion on this, we all care. I mean real discussion with real approcahes to this probelm, not well lets just see what happens or well Im sure we will figure something out. Talk real.
Your thoughts?
IMO, we went to 4 straight in large part because we had a playoff and SB caliper QB in Kelly. Furthermore, he had an attitude where he was more than willing to jack this squad up and force wins.
Since the SB years, I have not seen any signs of having the mental toughness to go back to the SB again. No one else at any other position has stepped up and filled those shoes. Over and over we see lack of mental toughness, even today. I see that type of attitude in Losman. He may never have the talent or decision making to be any good and that leadership may just go to waste, but IMO we just dont have enough evidence to make that determintaion yet.
This team is not now and has not been the Pats type of a team. We dont hold a candle to them as far as mental toughness. If the rest of the team is mentaly tough enough, you very well can go to the playoffs and/or SB with a non-playoff or SB caliper QB. Ltes face it, we dont have that situation, right now, not since our SB years, and maybe never. That means that recipe just wont work for the Bills. It may work for Car (with Delhomme), STL (with Warner) or some of the other teams. But look what happened when Warner went to a team that didnt have the mental toughness the Cards, they basically look like we do.
The Bills and many fans apparently feel they have seen enough in 4 games. I respectfully disagree. But, just to indulge that thought:
If it isnt Holcomb, and it isnt Losman, who is it? and how do we get that person?
FA? please! you want to add a true leader with playoff and/or SB caliper proven talent through FA? with a GM who holds his money tighter that Scrooge? No way in hell we pay for that. A trade? sure, sounds good, who gives up their proven playoff/SB leader QB again? NO ONE!
Your stuck with one choice, build your own. Well, we were trying to do that and find out if it was Losman but 4 games in abandonded that plan. We werent willing to invest the games necessary in him to find out.
So, again, If it isnt Holcomb (and we havent seen anything in his career yet to say it is), and it isnt Losman, then who is it? how do we get that person? When do we finally start down that path?
If Holcomb comes in and wins us a few more games so that we end up say 5 and 11 or better, we will NOT have the #1 pick and therefore will NOT get Linehart. To me there isnt ANYONE else that looks like a real possibility to be a SB type QB, maybe Marcus Vick comes out. He carries very heavy off the field baggage, does anyone belive that is the type of character that fills Kellys shoes? Trade up for Linehart, OK, that will take a kings ransom, aare we all willing to do that? is our Scrooge GM TD?
It doesnt look pretty and starting Holcomb just catapulted us through an ugly forest where we are hitting every branch.
Id love to see some real discussion on this, we all care. I mean real discussion with real approcahes to this probelm, not well lets just see what happens or well Im sure we will figure something out. Talk real.
Your thoughts?
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