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  • Bmax
    Registered User
    • Aug 2003
    • 1711
    #1

    So This is all gray's fault ?

    I think not ...without spikes and williams the bills are clearly struggling...I was wrong about pat ....he was worth the money .. the bills thought they could get by with edwards...... wrong.......They said anderson would be a good plug in .....ahh no !!!!!! Missing has been the plays spikes used to make weekly...Sure thre are a few plays made here and there but....a playmaker is badly needed on this....The bills problem against the run is clearly apparent .. They are undisciplined....They constanly over pursue and and miss far two many tackles....

    The last time i checked gray...was not in uniform..His playing days are over ...hopefully his coaching days won't be ...He has done a good job....He just could use some help from the fron office filling pat williams old spot ...


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  • OpIv37
    Acid Douching Asswipe
    • Sep 2002
    • 101297
    #2
    Re: So This is all gray's fault ?

    Gray messed up a bunch of times. On a few of those 3rd and long plays, Greer and King were playing man coverage while the blitzes (that Gray designed, lest we forget) took too long to apply pressure.
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    • Devin
      The Octagon
      • Apr 2003
      • 23878
      #3
      Re: So This is all gray's fault ?

      SPikes ill give you.

      But as I said from the get go if this is how we play without 1 DT (williams) this defense was never that good.

      The Bills are loaded with talent on Defense, and quite simply should both play and know better. And a lot of that starts with the coaching.
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      • Michael82
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 82328
        #4
        Re: So This is all gray's fault ?

        It's their ****ing 10-15 yard cushions on the receivers. That's what keeps killing our defense. Oh and they overpursue the backs badly.

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        • Turf
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 8378
          #5
          Re: So This is all gray's fault ?

          Originally posted by Mikey82
          It's their ****ing 10-15 yard cushions on the receivers. That's what keeps killing our defense. Oh and they overpursue the backs badly.
          Yep.
          When you blitz the QB, you've got to play tight coverage becuase you know they're going to break off their routes.
          Grey sucks.
          Not only that, you notice when we sat back, Collins had trouble finding somnone open.
          Yet we still keep giving up week after week after week, 3rd a long downs with ease. WR's finding easy openings in the seams against EVERY team. And that my friends, is coaching.

          The entire front office from TD down to the coaching staff needs to be replaced. Any words beyond that thought are a waste of energy.
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          • HHURRICANE
            Registered User
            • Mar 2005
            • 15490
            #6
            Re: So This is all gray's fault ?

            Originally posted by Bmax
            I think not ...without spikes and williams the bills are clearly struggling...I was wrong about pat ....he was worth the money .. the bills thought they could get by with edwards...... wrong.......They said anderson would be a good plug in .....ahh no !!!!!! Missing has been the plays spikes used to make weekly...Sure thre are a few plays made here and there but....a playmaker is badly needed on this....The bills problem against the run is clearly apparent .. They are undisciplined....They constanly over pursue and and miss far two many tackles....

            The last time i checked gray...was not in uniform..His playing days are over ...hopefully his coaching days won't be ...He has done a good job....He just could use some help from the fron office filling pat williams old spot ...


            Bmax
            Are you Gray's cousin?! How about allowing a team to drive with 8 minutes left, taking all the time off the clock, and knowing they are going to run on every play. It wasn't like it was one blown play for a TD. Gray gets the blame just like the players. His bogus blitzing schemes got figured out by a very average team, so yeah we can roll him under the bus.

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            • PromoTheRobot
              Registered User
              • Sep 2003
              • 2311
              #7
              Re: So This is all gray's fault ?

              Review the game video before Spikes injury. We had the same problems. The good news is there has been no drop off from losing Spikes...we sucked with him, too.

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              • X-Era
                What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                • Feb 2005
                • 27670
                #8
                Re: So This is all gray's fault ?

                Originally posted by Bmax
                I think not ...without spikes and williams the bills are clearly struggling...I was wrong about pat ....he was worth the money .. the bills thought they could get by with edwards...... wrong.......They said anderson would be a good plug in .....ahh no !!!!!! Missing has been the plays spikes used to make weekly...Sure thre are a few plays made here and there but....a playmaker is badly needed on this....The bills problem against the run is clearly apparent .. They are undisciplined....They constanly over pursue and and miss far two many tackles....

                The last time i checked gray...was not in uniform..His playing days are over ...hopefully his coaching days won't be ...He has done a good job....He just could use some help from the fron office filling pat williams old spot ...


                Bmax

                I actually didnt watch the play calling that closely but rather the overall game. I still like Grays approach with heavy QB pressure. I just saw us get gutted up the middle over and over.

                YES, we miss Pat. I didnt want him at the price he got, id rather go younger and better. Again, Damione Lewis is set to be a FA and Id love to land him. Why didnt we get Corey Simon again? Ohh I forgot, Dona-scrooge had control over the purse. Well the move he DOESNT make costs us too.

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                • X-Era
                  What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 27670
                  #9
                  Re: So This is all gray's fault ?

                  Originally posted by Mikey82
                  It's their ****ing 10-15 yard cushions on the receivers. That's what keeps killing our defense. Oh and they overpursue the backs badly.
                  I hate that too. McGee was 12-13 yards off the receiver on one play. The guy is as fast as anyone in the league and needs that much cushion? I will never understand that. But I do feel that wasnt our problem today. If anything it was the LONG ball and not the slants that killed us. Dont worry, we will probably see that cushion cost us heavy against the Pats. They LOVE the slants and short passes on us.

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                  • OpIv37
                    Acid Douching Asswipe
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 101297
                    #10
                    Re: So This is all gray's fault ?

                    Originally posted by jp-era
                    I actually didnt watch the play calling that closely but rather the overall game. I still like Grays approach with heavy QB pressure. I just saw us get gutted up the middle over and over.

                    Heavy QB pressure is great. The problem with Gray's schemes is that he blitzes but the pressure never gets there. This leaves the recievers in one-on-one coverage, and at the NFL level a receiver is going to win that 9 times out of 10. Today, the pressure never got there and our CB's were hung out to dry.
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                    • X-Era
                      What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 27670
                      #11
                      Re: So This is all gray's fault ?

                      Originally posted by OpIv37
                      Heavy QB pressure is great. The problem with Gray's schemes is that he blitzes but the pressure never gets there. This leaves the recievers in one-on-one coverage, and at the NFL level a receiver is going to win that 9 times out of 10. Today, the pressure never got there and our CB's were hung out to dry.
                      Your absolutely right. That was completely true today.

                      Again, if your TD why get Jevon Kearse? hell why get Hugh Douglas? We have Ryan Denney afterall.

                      The guys cheapskate attitude has to go, it has cost us PLENTY.

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                      • The_Philster
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 52180
                        #12
                        Re: So This is all gray's fault ?

                        Originally posted by Mikey82
                        It's their ****ing 10-15 yard cushions on the receivers. That's what keeps killing our defense. Oh and they overpursue the backs badly.
                        Antoine Winfield was constantly put in that position 2 years ago and was burned because of it
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                        • Kerr
                          Hall of Fame Zoner
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 6656
                          #13
                          Re: So This is all gray's fault ?

                          I miss Pat's fat ass.

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                          • Kerr
                            Hall of Fame Zoner
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 6656
                            #14
                            Re: So This is all gray's fault ?

                            I miss Pat's fat ass.

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