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  • Gunzlingr
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    • Jul 2002
    • 45976

    Defensive Switch?

    Forked from: London Fletcher

    Originally posted by Gunzlingr
    Why not switch to a 3-4? It has seemed to work for the Vikes the last couple of weeks? Sam at NT and shake things up, catch NE unawares?
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  • Buckets
    Registered User
    • Jun 2003
    • 804

    #2
    Re: Defensive Switch?

    Originally posted by Gunzlingr
    Forked from: London Fletcher
    I just mentioned this at lunch. I think it's worth a shot. The detractors mention that Schobel is to small to play in a 3-4.

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    • Scumbag College
      Registered User
      • Oct 2002
      • 4949

      #3
      Re: Defensive Switch?

      If the Bills Defense switches to a 3-4, it might not be as strong of a defense...i can't even type that with a straight face.
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      • The King
        Without me it's just Awe so
        • Jun 2004
        • 42380

        #4
        Re: Defensive Switch?

        I will post the same thing I posted in the Fletch thread.

        Who do we have play inside? We line-up Posey and Crowell Out, who plays inside with London? This is a huge reason why I think the Bills shouldv'e gone after Oj Atogwe in the draft, versatility and a replacement for either London or Troy Vincent down the road.
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        • mchurchfie
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 13418

          #5
          Re: Defensive Switch?

          I TOTALLY agree. Buffalo has always run a 3-4 with great success. I barely EVER remember us giving up long plays of 12 yards or more when we had our old 3-4 defenses in the 80's and 90's and our run defenses were superb. This defense should have been run out of town with it's owner, Greg Williams. It has been **** since it has been here, I don't care if they were rated #2 last year. This defense NEVER comes up big when it needs to. It has some critcal flaws in it and is not suited for our personnel.
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          • G. Host
            Banned
            • Jul 2002
            • 10298

            #6
            Re: Defensive Switch?

            Bruce Smith was not large either - his weight was inflated except for first two years.

            Maybe this is reflection on Tim Anderson and I do not care if it 'stunts his growth" but the Bills need to correct the problem and there are very few free agents who can come in and help. Put a DT behind a DT if that is what is needed (I formation) - it has been done before. Denney seems pretty stout vs run and can still cover - stick him as UT for a bit.

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            • Buckets
              Registered User
              • Jun 2003
              • 804

              #7
              Re: Defensive Switch?

              Originally posted by MBBedard
              I will post the same thing I posted in the Fletch thread.

              Who do we have play inside? We line-up Posey and Crowell Out, who plays inside with London? This is a huge reason why I think the Bills shouldv'e gone after Oj Atogwe in the draft, versatility and a replacement for either London or Troy Vincent down the road.
              How about Stammer (sp)?

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              • eyedog
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 1742

                #8
                Re: Defensive Switch?

                They currently don't have enough good linebackers, especially inside. Another problem is nt. Sam can't go a whole game, who gives him a breather. Schobel is to small for this defense and would get killed more than usual against the run. Although you could play Denney and Kelsay on running downs and bring Schobel in to pass rush.
                As noted the current personal doesn't fit but I wouldn't be against it next year.

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                • ParanoidAndroid
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                  • Apr 2004
                  • 16833

                  #9
                  Re: Defensive Switch?

                  Originally posted by eyedog
                  They currently don't have enough good linebackers, especially inside. Another problem is nt. Sam can't go a whole game, who gives him a breather. Schobel is to small for this defense and would get killed more than usual against the run. Although you could play Denney and Kelsay on running downs and bring Schobel in to pass rush.
                  As noted the current personal doesn't fit but I wouldn't be against it next year.
                  Essentially, we'd have to draft like Dallas did last year and get a DC who knows how to run a 3-4. Mularkey and TD are probably already looking around for their guy. Think he'll be Pittsburgh's D-line coach, John Mitchell? He's been there 15 years.

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                  • Drive 4 Five
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                    • May 2003
                    • 2202

                    #10
                    Re: Defensive Switch?

                    I don't know about having the personnel to run the 34 defense, but I do agree that the current scheme we are using blows. I am sincerely hoping that we can get Dom Capers in here to coach defense when he is fired from Houston. I think Jerry Gray should be...

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                    • Forward_Lateral
                      Registered User
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 29895

                      #11
                      Re: Defensive Switch?

                      This is what I would do:

                      I'd put Sam, Tim Anderson and Bannan on the D-line. For LB's, I'd have Fletch, Crowell at ILB and Posey and Schobel at OLB.

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                      • Devin
                        The Octagon
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 23878

                        #12
                        Re: Defensive Switch?

                        Originally posted by Scumbag College
                        If the Bills Defense switches to a 3-4, it might not be as strong of a defense...i can't even type that with a straight face.
                        lol. Now that is a statement.

                        Who cares 4-3/3-4 we wont be able to stop anyone.
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                        • chubluv
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                          • Jan 2003
                          • 11565

                          #13
                          Re: Defensive Switch?

                          what about Coy Wire next to Fletcher in the 3-4 ?



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                          • Devin
                            The Octagon
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 23878

                            #14
                            Re: Defensive Switch?

                            Negged.
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                            • Forward_Lateral
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 29895

                              #15
                              Re: Defensive Switch?

                              Why not put the biggest, fattest bastards you can find at D-line and all 3 LB positions. Then, put Fletcher at SS, Vincent at FS, McGee and Nate on the corners. Have the fat bastards clog the middle of the field, then let the corners and safeties make the plays on the outside. It's worth a shot.

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