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BillsFever21
10-25-2005, 02:57 PM
He has 7 fumbles(3 Lost) and 2 INT's in 88 attempts along with 8 sacks. That means on the average if you also add in his 9 carries and 8 sacks leaves him with a total of 105 attemps.

If you break that down it means 1 in every 6.17 attemps he either threw an INT, fumbled or got sacked.

Is this the kind of production our organization is happy settling for? Holcomb is a decent QB IF the defense is playing well or we have a lead. He can't bring a team from behind.

We need an early two score lead for him to be successful like in the Miami and Jets game. The way our defense is playing and the teams on our schedule we're not gonna win many games this way.

Seven fumbles in 105 attempts? That is pathetic.
mchurchfie
10-25-2005, 02:58 PM
He has 7 fumbles(3 Lost) and 2 INT's in 88 attempts along with 8 sacks. That means on the average if you also add in his 9 carries and 8 sacks leaves him with a total of 105 attemps.

If you break that down it means 1 in every 6.17 attemps he either threw an INT, fumbled or got sacked.

Is this the kind of production our organization is happy settling for? Holcomb is a decent QB IF the defense is playing well or we have a lead. He can't bring a team from behind.

We need an early two score lead for him to be successful like in the Miami and Jets game. The way our defense is playing and the teams on our schedule we're not gonna win many games this way.

Seven fumbles in 105 attempts? That is pathetic.Sounds like last year's QB.:ill:
G. Host
10-25-2005, 03:00 PM
Attempts? Does not appear to apply in this case. The problems seem to be exchanges which Willis which are probably happening because they gave so few reps to him in Training Camp since Losman was in a crash course to being a starter.

Comparing attempts at throws does not make sense; compare snaps.
TacklingDummy
10-25-2005, 03:11 PM
We wouldn't be talking about Holcomb if JP was a good QB.
justasportsfan
10-25-2005, 03:16 PM
He has 7 fumbles(3 Lost) and 2 INT's in 88 attempts along with 8 sacks. That means on the average if you also add in his 9 carries and 8 sacks leaves him with a total of 105 attemps.

If you break that down it means 1 in every 6.17 attemps he either threw an INT, fumbled or got sacked.

Is this the kind of production our organization is happy settling for? Holcomb is a decent QB IF the defense is playing well or we have a lead. He can't bring a team from behind.

We need an early two score lead for him to be successful like in the Miami and Jets game. The way our defense is playing and the teams on our schedule we're not gonna win many games this way.

Seven fumbles in 105 attempts? That is pathetic.

I'll spin that too.

90+ qb rating with an inconsistent Ol and running game. There are bigger problems than Holcomb , so why aren't you pointing them out?
BillsFever21
10-25-2005, 03:47 PM
I'll spin that too.

90+ qb rating with an inconsistent Ol and running game. There are bigger problems than Holcomb , so why aren't you pointing them out?

I never said it was Holcomb's fault. Just saying that he isn't the answer. Throwing 4 yard dumpoffs will increase anybody's rating because it gives them a higher completion percentage.

In 64 plays made by Losman he has 535 yards(45 completions and 19 carries)

In 71 plays made by Holcomb he has 536 yards(62 completions and 9 carries)

In Losman's 4 starts McGahee touched the ball only 84 times while Losman touched it 123 times.

In Holcomb's 3 starts he touched the ball 95 times and McGahee touched it 84 times.

This coaching staff sucks. When a new QB is asked to make a play 39 more times through 4 games then our stud RB there is something wrong with this picture. McGahee should've been carrying the load and not Losman.

These coaches haven't been putting the team in the best position to win. They are the root of the problem.
justasportsfan
10-25-2005, 03:50 PM
I never said it was Holcomb's fault. Just saying that he isn't the answer. Throwing 4 yard dumpoffs will increase anybody's rating because it gives them a higher completion percentage.

In 64 plays made by Losman he has 535 yards(45 completions and 19 carries)

In 71 plays made by Holcomb he has 536 yards(62 completions and 9 carries)

In Losman's 4 starts McGahee touched the ball only 84 times while Losman touched it 123 times.

In Holcomb's 3 starts he touched the ball 95 times and McGahee touched it 84 times.

This coaching staff sucks. When a new QB is asked to make a play 39 more times through 4 games then our stud RB there is something wrong with this picture. McGahee should've been carrying the load and not Losman.

These coaches haven't been putting the team in the best position to win. They are the root of the problem.no said he is the answer, But he isn't the problem either.
TacklingDummy
10-25-2005, 03:50 PM
When playing from behind (JPs games) the running game will suffer. When playing with the lead, McGahee will get the ball more often.
Meathead
10-25-2005, 04:17 PM
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Novacane
10-25-2005, 04:26 PM
lol the guy who can't start a new Bledsoe thread fast enough after he plays a decent game is talking about obsession
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10-25-2005, 04:34 PM
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justasportsfan
10-25-2005, 04:36 PM
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Nice comeback.
Meathead
10-25-2005, 04:41 PM
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10-25-2005, 04:42 PM
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BillsFever21
10-25-2005, 04:59 PM
lol the guy who can't start a new Bledsoe thread fast enough after he plays a decent game is talking about obsession

Ten Pro-Bledsoe/Anti-JP threads started a week by the same person is a normal activity.
BillsFever21
10-25-2005, 04:59 PM
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Maybe you could give us some insight.
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10-25-2005, 05:03 PM
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X-Era
10-25-2005, 05:23 PM
no said he is the answer, But he isn't the problem either.

Using that hiring criteria, I vote for my grandmother as starting Bills QB.
superbills
10-25-2005, 09:05 PM
When playing from behind (JPs games) the running game will suffer. When playing with the lead, McGahee will get the ball more often.

In two of JP's four games the Bills were ahead and won once (Houston) and squndered a lead when we coudn't hold New Orelans in check. THe other two games were just disasters all around. And, in the Atlanta game McGAhee ran for 140 yds. and a TD on 27 attemtps. In other words, what are you talking about?

Holcomb beat two crappy teams in Miami and the Jets and looked barely adequate against the Raiders. And McGahee's numbers in the Oakland game practically matched those from the Tampa game. Your logic doesn't make sense.