Hey clumpy, could we sign Nate in 06 to a McAllister deal?

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  • X-Era
    What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
    • Feb 2005
    • 27670

    Hey clumpy, could we sign Nate in 06 to a McAllister deal?

    Heres his salary, couldnt find the bonus.

    McAlister, Chris
    View Stats at Players Inc Site
    Player Info
    Draft Info
    CB (#21)
    Year: 1999
    Baltimore Ravens
    Round: 1
    Corona, CA
    Position: 10
    Salary History
    2004 535000.00
    2005 965000.00
    2006 5500000.00
    2007 6500000.00
    2008 8000000.00
    2009 8000000.00
    2010 8000000.00
    SB would be split over the length most likely. Couldnt find the SB.

    If I read this right, we can get Nate back to a long contract, backloaded and he could be had for maybe 4-5 mil 2006, 5-6 2007, then 8-9 per each following.

  • YardRat
    Well, lookie here...
    • Dec 2004
    • 86147

    #2
    Re: Hey clumpy, could we sign Nate in 06 to a McAllister deal?

    Clements isn't worth 8-9mil/yr.
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    • X-Era
      What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
      • Feb 2005
      • 27670

      #3
      Re: Hey clumpy, could we sign Nate in 06 to a McAllister deal?

      Originally posted by YardRat
      Clements isn't worth 8-9mil/yr.
      But McAllister is? again this is in year 4 we'll say in 2010 not next year.

      Clements is a top 5 CB and unfortunately thats the going rate.

      This team has suffered from "you get what you pay" for for long enough. Pay Clements and lets move on. let him go and we head even farther from the SB!

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      • YardRat
        Well, lookie here...
        • Dec 2004
        • 86147

        #4
        Re: Hey clumpy, could we sign Nate in 06 to a McAllister deal?

        McAllister isn't either.

        Let Clements go and use the money to sign offensive linemen.
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        • gr8slayer
          Registered User
          • Feb 2005
          • 20796

          #5
          Re: Hey clumpy, could we sign Nate in 06 to a McAllister deal?

          Originally posted by YardRat
          McAllister isn't either.

          Let Clements go and use the money to sign offensive linemen.
          Amen

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          • Devin
            The Octagon
            • Apr 2003
            • 23878

            #6
            Re: Hey clumpy, could we sign Nate in 06 to a McAllister deal?

            by let go he meant trade for a 1st rounder or more.
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            • X-Era
              What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
              • Feb 2005
              • 27670

              #7
              Re: Hey clumpy, could we sign Nate in 06 to a McAllister deal?

              Originally posted by YardRat
              McAllister isn't either.

              Let Clements go and use the money to sign offensive linemen.
              Cant disagree except who is our other CB?

              Sign Steve Hutchinson, and LeCharles Bentley. Start Peters at LT, and restructure M Williams? OK. Then spend your top 10 1st rounder on Jimmy Williams, or Ngata.

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              • Michael82
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 82330

                #8
                Re: Hey clumpy, could we sign Nate in 06 to a McAllister deal?

                Originally posted by Devin
                by let go he meant trade for a 1st rounder or more.
                I hope so. I don't want to see TD just let Nate Clements go, without getting anything.

                I hope he pulls another Peerless Price type trade.

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                • gr8slayer
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 20796

                  #9
                  Re: Hey clumpy, could we sign Nate in 06 to a McAllister deal?

                  Originally posted by Mikey82
                  I hope so. I don't want to see TD just let Nate Clements go, without getting anything.
                  I hope he pulls another Peerless Price type trade.
                  I just hope it doesnt turn out like the Henry deal.

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                  • clumping platelets

                    #10
                    Re: Hey clumpy, could we sign Nate in 06 to a McAllister deal?

                    Simply.....no

                    Why?

                    well, starting in 2006, signing bonuses can only be prorated (spread out over 4 yrs). When McAlister signed his deal in 2004, signing bonuses could be spread out over 6 yrs. The changes of proration are due to the fact the CBA states that prorations cannot extend more than 2 yrs past an uncapped yr (2007)

                    Bills, or any team for that matter, will need to be very creative. Most likely, the Antoine Winfield contract will be used as a model. He rec'd his bonus money as a roster bonus and it all counted on 2004 cap instead of spreading it out over a number of yrs. Bills could do that if they wish to take a huge cap hit in 2006

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                    • Michael82
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 82330

                      #11
                      Re: Hey clumpy, could we sign Nate in 06 to a McAllister deal?

                      Originally posted by clumping platelets
                      Simply.....no

                      Why?

                      well, starting in 2006, signing bonuses can only be prorated (spread out over 4 yrs). When McAlister signed his deal in 2004, signing bonuses could be spread out over 6 yrs. The changes of proration are due to the fact the CBA states that prorations cannot extend more than 2 yrs past an uncapped yr (2007)

                      Bills, or any team for that matter, will need to be very creative. Most likely, the Antoine Winfield contract will be used as a model. He rec'd his bonus money as a roster bonus and it all counted on 2004 cap instead of spreading it out over a number of yrs. Bills could do that if they wish to take a huge cap hit in 2006
                      Best thing to hope for is the CBA agreement to get signed and agreed upon before the offseason begins.

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                      • Dr. Lecter
                        Zero for Zero!
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 67930

                        #12
                        Re: Hey clumpy, could we sign Nate in 06 to a McAllister deal?

                        Originally posted by gr8slayer
                        I just hope it doesnt turn out like the Henry deal.
                        ???

                        The Bills did great in the Henry deal. What are you talking about?
                        Last edited by Dr. Lecter; 11-07-2005, 12:24 PM.
                        Originally posted by mysticsoto
                        Lecter is right in everything he said.

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                        • Michael82
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 82330

                          #13
                          Re: Hey clumpy, could we sign Nate in 06 to a McAllister deal?

                          Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                          ???

                          The Bills did great in the Henry deal. What are you taling about.

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