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Re: You know what stinks about the doom and gloomers?
Most of the reason I think more than half of them portray this attitude is to have the ability to come back and say exactly that... I told ya so. It's pathetic and I still find it hilarious.
Re: You know what stinks about the doom and gloomers?
I fall somewhere in the middle, but you're right. The whole thing last week about "proving the Bills can beat the Pats" before they stepped foot on the field made me come to realize that there is no convincing these people anything. I mostly read the football threads and don't contribute because what's the sense?
Re: You know what stinks about the doom and gloomers?
I'll assume this was semi-directed in my direction because of what I posted in your last, much similar thread.
First of all, let me start by saying that I have never cheered on an opposing team facing Buffalo on game day. That's not too far from treason in my book.
The dilemma is that this team is freaking the same mediocre team since just after the Titans pulled off the Immaculate Reception. I don't know about you but I'm tired of it.
When I see other coaches that TD could have hired, the same coaches that are succeeding quite well around the league, using less talent then what the Bills currently have on the roster, then I tend to get a litttle fired up. The style of coach that TD continues to recuit is crap. And the plain truth is that they just aren't winning football games.
I don't want to go forward watching the same **** another 3, 4, 5 to 7 seasons. That's not to say I won't, but man it's freaking heart wrenching. I guess if you keep signing OCs and DCs that odds are you are eventually going to strike gold and pull anther Marv Levy out from your ass, but when there are already proven prospects lingering for a job, flying in for interviews. How in the hell do you let them walk away without doing everything in your power to get the winner to stay?
As a dedicated Bills fan. One and the same that dresses his 6 month old daughter in Bills gear on Sunday, I'm tired of the mediocrity. This team has far too much talent to be playing at this level. Something should and needs to be corrected. And I don't see it with MM. Unfortuantely, he'll be here until he shows us how really bad things can get.
While in the past, losing would send me into a tailspin for 2 days to a week, this season when the Bills lose I feel numb. Like I've just seen the hot substitute teacher....standing and peeing in the mens room urinal.
Bottom line is, I want to win. If that works with Holcomb, then great. I'll back him all the way. My spidey senses are tingling here and they're telling me that Holcomb is the guy for the Bills need to rely on for a playoff berth. I'm so sure of it Pat, that if the Bills DO make the playoffs this season, I will buy you a Bills Throwback jersey of your choice....just so you can tell me that you told me so.
Re: You know what stinks about the doom and gloomers?
I hear what you're saying too Red. That's why I fall in the middle. When we fail to execute plays in preseason and the eternal optomists dismiss it as "only preseason", it bothers me just as much as people willing to throw in the towel before midseason.
Re: You know what stinks about the doom and gloomers?
Originally posted by TacklingDummy
Did ya happen to look and see who the #5 QB is in the AFC?
Bills are ranked 30th in passing because of those 2 games of 75 yards passing for your hero.
Exactly. Losman has a long, long ways to go before he's even a mediocre QB in this league. It's more than just "taking his bumps". His teammates and coaches both saw it and that's why he's on the bench. This team wanted a caretaker at QB, and Holcomb has done that well. Losman was the 4th QB taken in the draft, he's far from being a sure thing in the league.
Re: You know what stinks about the doom and gloomers?
Originally posted by RedEyE
I'll assume this was semi-directed in my direction because of what I posted in your last, much similar thread.
First of all, let me start by saying that I have never cheered on an opposing team facing Buffalo on game day. That's not too far from treason in my book.
The dilemma is that this team is freaking the same mediocre team since just after the Titans pulled off the Immaculate Reception. I don't know about you but I'm tired of it.
When I see other coaches that TD could have hired, the same coaches that are succeeding quite well around the league, using less talent then what the Bills currently have on the roster, then I tend to get a litttle fired up. The style of coach that TD continues to recuit is crap. And the plain truth is that they just aren't winning football games.
I don't want to go forward watching the same **** another 3, 4, 5 to 7 seasons. That's not to say I won't, but man it's freaking heart wrenching. I guess if you keep signing OCs and DCs that odds are you are eventually going to strike gold and pull anther Marv Levy out from your ass, but when there are already proven prospects lingering for a job, flying in for interviews. How in the hell do you let them walk away without doing everything in your power to get the winner to stay?
As a dedicated Bills fan. One and the same that dresses his 6 month old daughter in Bills gear on Sunday, I'm tired of the mediocrity. This team has far too much talent to be playing at this level. Something should and needs to be corrected. And I don't see it with MM. Unfortuantely, he'll be here until he shows us how really bad things can get.
While in the past, losing would send me into a tailspin for 2 days to a week, this season when the Bills lose I feel numb. Like I've just seen the hot substitute teacher....standing and peeing in the mens room urinal.
Bottom line is, I want to win. If that works with Holcomb, then great. I'll back him all the way. My spidey senses are tingling here and they're telling me that Holcomb is the guy for the Bills need to rely on for a playoff berth. I'm so sure of it Pat, that if the Bills DO make the playoffs this season, I will buy you a Bills Throwback jersey of your choice....just so you can tell me that you told me so.
As always Go Buffalo!
No one gave the pats a chance to win their first sb. They were going in as a wildcard w/ a 2nd yr. qb and Anoine Smith as their rb.
I doubt the bills will follow in their footsteps but "it's always better to have tried and lost than to have never tried at all and wonder
"what if " for the rest of your life.
Re: You know what stinks about the doom and gloomers?
Originally posted by billsfanone
I fall somewhere in the middle, but you're right. The whole thing last week about "proving the Bills can beat the Pats" before they stepped foot on the field made me come to realize that there is no convincing these people anything. I mostly read the football threads and don't contribute because what's the sense?
you know, you need to learn to ****ING READ- it wasn't PROVING- it was providing some EVIDENCE as to WHY you felt that way. I had plenty of evidence SUGGESTING (note: not PROVING) why the Bills would lose- ie struggles in primetime games, struggles in road games, NE after the bye, etc- no one came up with any similar evidence SUGGESTING the Bills could win.
Re: You know what stinks about the doom and gloomers?
Originally posted by BSXIII
Exactly. Losman has a long, long ways to go before he's even a mediocre QB in this league. It's more than just "taking his bumps". His teammates and coaches both saw it and that's why he's on the bench. This team wanted a caretaker at QB, and Holcomb has done that well. Losman was the 4th QB taken in the draft, he's far from being a sure thing in the league.
this team wanted a "caretaker QB" based on the fact that we had a good D. Holcomb is great as a caretaker, but he's not gonna win games on his own and neither is Losman. That's why it's time to play Losman- if the rest of the team steps up, we'll win with either one. If we're not winning, might as well groom Losman.
Re: You know what stinks about the doom and gloomers?
I agree with much of Red's post.
My take is that Holcomb is a better QB right now and gives us a better chance to win now. It doesn't however suggest that the Bills CAN'T win with Losman. While we do have a chance at winning the East still, it is far from a very good chance. I would like to play Losman more AND win now, why does that seem so impossible? Given MM's love of trick plays, I can't believe he hasn't tried to get JP onto the field a little more in certain situations.
As much as I want to win now, I don't want to be that team that refuses to allow the young players to get much action until the last minute and never get a good long look at them.
Re: You know what stinks about the doom and gloomers?
Originally posted by Patrick76777
You know what stinks about the doom and gloomers?
You mean besides their having every right to be pessimistic, given the perpetual state of disarray that has gripped this team for the past 6 years, including the present mishandling of Losman, the decline of the defense, and the abomination that passes for our offensive line?
Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?
Re: You know what stinks about the doom and gloomers?
Originally posted by Patrick76777
You know what stinks about the doom and gloomers?
If they’re wrong, we can’t rub it in. They’ll be happy! But if we don’t make the playoffs, they’ll say, “see, told you so”
You think the outsider enjoys being a perennial joke of the NFL homeboy?
The outsider dont need to throw any more salt in the wounds and rub it in when this team gets another top 5 draft pick for the kool aid man to waste on 'the best player available'
The outsider is not a homer and his eyes are wide open....you need to become a realist and quit talking delusional nonsense about playoffs and division titles...ain't happenin jack!
Re: You know what stinks about the doom and gloomers?
Originally posted by The Outsider
You think the outsider enjoys being a perennial joke of the NFL homeboy?
The outsider dont need to throw any more salt in the wounds and rub it in when this team gets another top 5 draft pick for the kool aid man to waste on 'the best player available'
The outsider is not a homer and his eyes are wide open....you need to become a realist and quit talking delusional nonsense about playoffs and division titles...ain't happenin jack!
Agree. I've often wondered what it's like to live your life behind a pair of dark red and blue blinders.
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