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Mitchy moo
11-16-2005, 11:58 AM
If this happens, it's going to Kill me personally.

In a sign of an increased acceptance of Internet gambling, online casinos in recent months have signed endorsement deals with a group of celebrities, including Tom Arnold, the actor; Brooke Burke, a model turned television host; and Jim Kelly, a former quarterback for the Buffalo Bills.
But there is a big potential catch: these stars and others who profit by promoting offshore casinos could be putting themselves in legal jeopardy. The government considers these Internet sports books to be violating American law by providing unlicensed gambling on domestic shores.
Further, the government has said in the past that it could prosecute Americans who promote and assist such foreign operations for effectively aiding and abetting their illegal activities.
"There's a good chance they are criminally liable for the crime itself," said I. Nelson Rose, a professor at Whittier Law School in California and the author of "The Law of Internet Gaming." For celebrities who draw attention from law enforcement officials, he said, "the downside danger is enormous."

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20051117/1042641.asp?tbd1042641.asp

http://articles.news.aol.com/entertainment/article.adp?id=20051116072209990008&ncid=NWS00010000000001

RedEyE
11-16-2005, 12:11 PM
I wouldn't get too concerned here.

Jan Reimers
11-16-2005, 12:17 PM
Tom Arnold SHOULD go to jail. Not for endorsing an internet gambling site, but for having married Rosanne Barr.

Mitchy moo
11-16-2005, 12:21 PM
They like making examples of celebs that break the law.
I had a person I know near where I live that talked all about internet gambling and he gave advice and told people where to make wagers. The internet sites gave him kickbacks and he went to jail because of it. 17 people all got fried because of it, what's the difference here.

These people live here and are telling them where to go and getting paid for it. Big potential for trouble there.

THATHURMANATOR
11-16-2005, 06:29 PM
F this ****! Who doesn't gamble?

Luisito23
11-16-2005, 06:34 PM
Tom Arnold SHOULD go to jail. Not for endorsing an internet gambling site, but for having married Rosanne Barr.



:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:



GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!

Captain gameboy
11-16-2005, 07:05 PM
Tom Arnold SHOULD go to jail. Not for endorsing an internet gambling site, but for having married Rosanne Barr.

Ouch.

Can't happen.

If a marital choice precedent was set, Clinton would be in trouble plenty, and there's too many judges still serving that owe their appointments to him to allow it.

wchutalkinboutwillis
11-16-2005, 08:06 PM
Now it all makes sense. I always wondered why Jimbo chose the Houston Gamblers over the Bills. Now, I get it. The whole gambling thing and what not.

BAM
11-16-2005, 08:17 PM
Breakin' the Law, Breakin' the Law :xtreme:

DMBcrew36
11-16-2005, 08:22 PM
On the topic of Jim Kelly and trouble, I hope he has stopped beating his wife. :funny:

DaBills
11-16-2005, 11:17 PM
"Tom Arnold SHOULD go to jail. Not for endorsing an internet gambling site, but for having married Rosanne Barr."

heh, heh.



If anyone should go to jail, it's Jim McMahon. that freaking guy did ads for anything gambling-related. 1 (900) SELL-OUT

DaBills
11-16-2005, 11:25 PM
On the topic of Jim Kelly and trouble, I hope he has stopped beating his wife. :funny:

I may have been in a cave for most of the last decade, but what's that all about?

ublinkwescore
11-16-2005, 11:39 PM
You guys are overlooking one key factor - California Lawyers are so full of
$#!t - thanks to a one time California Lawyer, (who would eventually become California's Chief Justice) Charles Manson escaped the Death Penalty.

DMBcrew36
11-17-2005, 07:57 AM
I may have been in a cave for most of the last decade, but what's that all about?

He's been in a little trouble before, done some ****ty things. People don't really know or don't want to know because he is their golden god. I will say though, too, that he has done some great things such as creating Hunter's Hope! :peace:

TigerJ
11-17-2005, 08:55 AM
Not that I think it was a wise choice for Jim Kelly to get involved in it, but it seems to me the only reason the government is cracking down on unlicensed gambling is they don't like the competition, and want a cut of the action. Perhaps the stated reason is to protect consumers from fraud, but everyone knows gamblers get better odds from illegal gambling operations and bookies than they ever did from a government sponsored lottery.

McGahee420
11-17-2005, 09:21 AM
Tom Arnold SHOULD go to jail. Not for endorsing an internet gambling site, but for having married Rosanne Barr.

:lmao:

Mitchy moo
11-17-2005, 10:42 AM
Buffalo News put this out this morning:


<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left width=470>Kelly's ties to sports gaming on Internet raise eyebrows
By MARK GAUGHAN
News Sports Reporter
11/17/2005 </TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>http://www.buffalonews.com/images/space.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD width=2>http://www.buffalonews.com/images/space.gif</TD><TD vAlign=top width=499 bgColor=#ffffff><TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width=233 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD>http://www.buffalonews.com/graphics/2005/11/17/1117jimkelly_COLOR.jpg</TD></TR><TR><TD>Jim Kelly sees nothing wrong with latest endorsement.
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Buffalo Bills great Jim Kelly has endorsed products ranging from pain relievers to phone service to pizza in his career as a celebrity spokesperson. But his latest business relationship has raised some eyebrows.
The Hall of Fame quarterback has lent his name to an Internet sports gambling site called SportsInteraction.com.
"I have always been involved with the best of the best, and am proud to be associated with Sports Interaction, the best in online sports books," says Kelly on the Web site.
Kelly is among an increasing number of celebrities who have signed endorsement deals with online casinos or sports books. They include actors Tom Arnold and James Woods, former basketball player Dennis Rodman and model Brooke Burke. Former basketball players Julius Erving and Moses Malone have lent their names to poker tournaments sponsored by online casinos.
The association could be considered risky business. The position of the U.S. government is that such Internet sports books are violating American law by providing unlicensed gambling on domestic shores. The government has stated that it could prosecute Americans who promote and assist such foreign operations for what amounts to aiding and abetting their illegal activities.
However, it is not believed that the U.S. government ever has pursued a case against any endorser of such a business.
Some of the popular sites are located in Costa Rica. The Sports Interaction firm is located in Kahnawake Mohawk Territory, a Native American reserve near Montreal, Canada. A spokesperson for Kelly Enterprise said neither Kelly nor the company would have any comment on the subject. A source close to Kelly said the former quarterback sees nothing wrong with the connection. Internet gambling is a multibillion-dollar business, the popularity of which has skyrocketed with the advent of poker games on cable television. Overseas casinos are legal and licensed in dozens of foreign countries. Some casinos in Great Britain are listed on public stock exchanges.
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http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20051117/1042641.asp?tbd1042641.asp

Stewie
11-17-2005, 10:54 AM
This is such BS.

The servers for these sites operate outside of U.S. borders. Users are communicating with machines that are overseas. Their proprietors and others involved should not be subject to U.S. law. Now, if they want to make marketing those sites illegal, that's another story. But that's not the case here.

The only reason this is an issue is greedy lawyers who see the $$$ involved with taking this through the courts.

bledslow
11-17-2005, 07:48 PM
not surprised.i have always been suspicious of this clown for something. i hope they throw him in jail for 25 years. im willing to bet that he bet on his own team during his superbowl years.how else can you explain somebody playing that bad in 4 superbowls. he is guilty and i hope they throw away the key.

DMBcrew36
11-17-2005, 09:44 PM
not surprised.i have always been suspicious of this clown for something. i hope they throw him in jail for 25 years. im willing to bet that he bet on his own team during his superbowl years.how else can you explain somebody playing that bad in 4 superbowls. he is guilty and i hope they throw away the key.

Jim Kelly has done some really crappy things but geez man

jamze132
11-17-2005, 11:10 PM
Tom Arnold SHOULD go to jail. Not for endorsing an internet gambling site, but for having married Rosanne Barr.
LMAO! but you have to admit, they did create a funny TV show, which by the way can still be seen on "Nick at Nite"!:funny:

jamze132
11-17-2005, 11:11 PM
Jim Kelly is not allowed to be arrested. He's a god.

DMBcrew36
11-18-2005, 08:01 AM
Jim Kelly is not allowed to be arrested. He's a god.

Seems that way. He never got in trouble for screwing over his partners with the restaurant he failed, and never really got in trouble for beating his wife. All he got was a little bad press. I only see him as a god on the field. In reality, he is not that great a guy off the field, other than starting Hunter's Hope. I don't even want to get started on how he blew those Super Bowls after getting too drunk the night before.

Mitchy moo
11-18-2005, 08:09 AM
He's human and he has made mistakes but after watching how he treated and loved his dying son I think he is a great person at heart. Things can go really wrong in your life if you let them and I think he really loves his family and children, God bless him.

Mitchy moo
11-18-2005, 08:36 AM
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left width=470>Kelly venture with Web site not worth it

11/18/2005 </TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>http://www.buffalonews.com/images/space.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD width=2>http://www.buffalonews.com/images/space.gif</TD><TD vAlign=top width=499 bgColor=#ffffff>http://www.buffalonews.com/images/writers/dicesare_bob.jpg By BOB DICESARE
Who do you like this weekend, Jim Kelly? Give me some guidance. Who do you think scores first in the Indy-Cincinnati game, and is it a touchdown, a field goal or a safety? What will be the highest scoring quarter in New England against New Orleans? Do you have any insight on that one? It's a toughie, but I'm intrigued.
Come on now, Jimbo. Don't hold back. Give me the dope. My faith is with you after reading your welcome message on the bookie's Web site, a profile that concludes with you urging clients to gamble responsibly. So I'm figuring you must know something I don't, you being a Hall of Fame quarterback and all, because it never dawned on me that betting that a safety will account for the first points an NFL game could be construed as a responsible wager. But at 5,000-to-1, I'm more than a little bit interested. Give me some direction, Jimbo. Point me toward the land of financial independence. Baby needs a new pair of shoes.
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http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20051118/1051055.asp?tbd1051055.asp

dplus47
11-18-2005, 11:58 AM
I don't even want to get started on how he blew those Super Bowls after getting too drunk the night before.

i know you said you didn't want to get started, but is this documented somewhere?

Dantheman1280
11-18-2005, 12:41 PM
Not that I think it was a wise choice for Jim Kelly to get involved in it, but it seems to me the only reason the government is cracking down on unlicensed gambling is they don't like the competition, and want a cut of the action. Perhaps the stated reason is to protect consumers from fraud, but everyone knows gamblers get better odds from illegal gambling operations and bookies than they ever did from a government sponsored lottery.

It is b/c they don't get any taxes on offshore betting.

DMBcrew36
11-18-2005, 05:07 PM
i know you said you didn't want to get started, but is this documented somewhere?

I'll look for it. It's something that has been known around Buffalo for a while now.

ublinkwescore
11-19-2005, 02:53 PM
Seems that way. He never got in trouble for screwing over his partners with the restaurant he failed, and never really got in trouble for beating his wife. All he got was a little bad press. I only see him as a god on the field. In reality, he is not that great a guy off the field, other than starting Hunter's Hope. I don't even want to get started on how he blew those Super Bowls after getting too drunk the night before.

Oh wow, are you serious about the getting drunk the night before superbowls bit?

I honestly never heard that - which superbowls were they?

There was really more than one?

ublinkwescore
11-19-2005, 02:55 PM
He's human and he has made mistakes but after watching how he treated and loved his dying son I think he is a great person at heart. Things can go really wrong in your life if you let them and I think he really loves his family and children, God bless him.

While that may be true - there is absolutely NO justification for beating the mother of your children.