When will you all start blaming Willis?

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  • Bill Brasky
    Drives an ice cream truck covered in human skulls
    • Jan 2004
    • 66218

    When will you all start blaming Willis?

    The guy hasn't scored a TD in 4 games, he hasn't even broke a 30 yard run all season, and he's failed to go over 100 yards in 6 of 10 games.

    If Losman or Holcomb were putting up numbers comparable by QB standards, you guys would be in level 10 *****fest mode.

    What makes it worse is you can tell this guy has a big head and he's gonna demand money that he hasn't necessarily earned up to this point, IMO.

    Discuss.
  • LtBillsFan66
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 35553

    #2
    Re: When will you all start blaming Willis?

    Gotta give him the ball more. The playcalling isn't helping him.

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    • Fairway
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 42348

      #3
      Re: When will you all start blaming Willis?

      He deserves his share of blame.

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      • Bill Brasky
        Drives an ice cream truck covered in human skulls
        • Jan 2004
        • 66218

        #4
        Re: When will you all start blaming Willis?

        Great backs make do with what they're given.

        If you've noticed, the better he runs in a given game, the more touches the coaching staff gives him. If he's not on in the 1st QTR, they stay away from him.

        There are backs in the league that get 13-15 touches and still put up more than 39 yards.

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        • OpIv37
          Acid Douching Asswipe
          • Sep 2002
          • 101230

          #5
          Re: When will you all start blaming Willis?

          I agree with bf1 on this- the O line and the coaching has a lot to do with Willis' lack of success. He's just not getting the carries, and when he does he's basically on his own cuz the o-line is so bad.

          If he demands money, let him sit. At this point he's not worth it.
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          • Bill Brasky
            Drives an ice cream truck covered in human skulls
            • Jan 2004
            • 66218

            #6
            Re: When will you all start blaming Willis?

            i realize the OLine is bad, but Barry Sanders didn't exactly have the greatest line of all time.

            Come on, some of you guys are really babying this guy.

            If a guy needs 30 touches to break 100 yards that is pretty sad, no matter how bad the line is.

            Hell, I'll even correct myself because earlier in the season against Miami -- at home -- they gave him the ball 31 or 32 times, and he only got 86 yards... that's not even 3 yards per carry -- against the Dolphins.

            Add that to the fact that the guy has yet to break a long run and we're 11 weeks into the season... you're telling me there hasn't been 1 hole in a 11 games where he couldn't break something off for a long gain?

            If he's as good as everyone says he should be running people over regardless of how bad the line is.

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            • Devin
              The Octagon
              • Apr 2003
              • 23878

              #7
              Re: When will you all start blaming Willis?

              Actually a very good point.
              http://gridironjunkies.net/forums/index.php

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              • LtBillsFan66
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 35553

                #8
                Re: When will you all start blaming Willis?

                Originally posted by jfreeman
                i realize the OLine is bad, but Barry Sanders didn't exactly have the greatest line of all time.

                Come on, some of you guys are really babying this guy.

                If a guy needs 30 touches to break 100 yards that is pretty sad, no matter how bad the line is.

                Hell, I'll even correct myself because earlier in the season against Miami -- at home -- they gave him the ball 31 or 32 times, and he only got 86 yards... that's not even 3 yards per carry -- against the Dolphins.
                He's 4.2 YPC this season. On par with the rest of the league leaders.

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                • Bill Brasky
                  Drives an ice cream truck covered in human skulls
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 66218

                  #9
                  Re: When will you all start blaming Willis?

                  Originally posted by billsfanone
                  He's 4.2 YPC this season. On par with the rest of the league leaders.
                  Yeah, because 2 of his 4 100 yard games came against teams like Houston and the Jets... the other 2 were against ATL and NE, not exactly the greatest run defenses either.

                  Without those games, his YPC would barely be hovering above 3.

                  I'll give him some slack for the lack of TD's because the coaching staff feels its wise to throw inside the 5 rather than pound it

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                  • OpIv37
                    Acid Douching Asswipe
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 101230

                    #10
                    Re: When will you all start blaming Willis?

                    Originally posted by jfreeman
                    Yeah, because 2 of his 4 100 yard games came against teams like Houston and the Jets... the other 2 were against ATL and NE, not exactly the greatest run defenses either.

                    Without those games, his YPC would barely be hovering above 3.
                    umm, if they're good run defenses, no one else is running against them either. Willis could certainly play better, but right now he's kind of the least of this team's problems.
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                    • Bill Brasky
                      Drives an ice cream truck covered in human skulls
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 66218

                      #11
                      Re: When will you all start blaming Willis?

                      Originally posted by OpIv37
                      umm, if they're good run defenses, no one else is running against them either. Willis could certainly play better, but right now he's kind of the least of this team's problems.


                      NY Jets - 30th ranked rush D
                      Houston - 32nd (dead last)
                      New England - 22nd (and were further down the list when WM played them)
                      Atlanta - 21st

                      Those are the 4 teams he went over 100 yards against. I think it's safe to say that everybody is running over those teams. I've had to endure several Jet games and there have been backs that did more against them than Willis.

                      Take it for what you will, but I think this guy is overrated...

                      He's played 25 games here counting last season and his longest run is 41 yards. Not exactly amazing.

                      If Travis Henry was putting up these numbers you guys would be going bonkers.

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                      • EDS
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 5216

                        #12
                        Re: When will you all start blaming Willis?

                        Originally posted by jfreeman


                        NY Jets - 30th ranked rush D
                        Houston - 32nd (dead last)
                        New England - 22nd (and were further down the list when WM played them)
                        Atlanta - 21st

                        Those are the 4 teams he went over 100 yards against. I think it's safe to say that everybody is running over those teams. I've had to endure several Jet games and there have been backs that did more against them than Willis.

                        Take it for what you will, but I think this guy is overrated...

                        He's played 25 games here counting last season and his longest run is 41 yards. Not exactly amazing.

                        If Travis Henry was putting up these numbers you guys would be going bonkers.
                        This is typical of any Bills player. There is always one guy on the team who most fans fawn over. This is usually a young player with lots of potential. Once a new guy comes around everyone will *****. If Lionel Gates comes in one day and has a good day everyone will junp of the McGahee bandwagon pretty quick.

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                        • Forward_Lateral
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 29895

                          #13
                          Re: When will you all start blaming Willis?

                          This reminds me of the Travis Henry threads a few years back.

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                          • Jan Reimers
                            Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
                            • May 2003
                            • 17353

                            #14
                            Re: When will you all start blaming Willis?

                            Originally posted by jfreeman


                            NY Jets - 30th ranked rush D
                            Houston - 32nd (dead last)
                            New England - 22nd (and were further down the list when WM played them)
                            Atlanta - 21st

                            Those are the 4 teams he went over 100 yards against. I think it's safe to say that everybody is running over those teams. I've had to endure several Jet games and there have been backs that did more against them than Willis.

                            Take it for what you will, but I think this guy is overrated...

                            He's played 25 games here counting last season and his longest run is 41 yards. Not exactly amazing.

                            If Travis Henry was putting up these numbers you guys would be going bonkers.
                            I totally agree with your assessment of Willis. He has been wildly inconsistent to the point that in some games, he just doesn't seem to have the will to break tackles or drag guys for extra yardage.

                            Willis is basically a power runner - he has never regained the quickness or burst that he had before the injury - who often goes down way too easily.
                            Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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                            • camelcowboy
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 7449

                              #15
                              Re: When will you all start blaming Willis?

                              This team is too cute, to use this running back, 13 carries against the raiders, 10 against the chargers. I can't blame wills, he hardly got the ball, the offense hardly had the ball for the entire game. The defense is the problem, and the oline. Freeman your right, he's not sanders, but at least the lions had the common sense to know that Sanders was their best offensive player. Sanders always got his carries, why can't wills? He's the best offensive player give him the ball. Problem is coaching.


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