Can you actually go to the playoffs at 8 and 8?

[X-Era]

Is it possible for us to go with a record of 8 and 8 or 7 and 9 as a divsion winner even thought the wildcard probably gets won by a team thats 10 and 6 or 9 and 7?

Does all the divsion winners automatically get in regardless of record?

So if the Pats can manage to stink up the joint worse than us and we can beat them in Buff we could still go?

[Mudflap1]

Re: Can you actually go to the playoffs at 8 and 8?

Yes. I'm surprised that you don't know this.

Jon

[northernbillfan]

Re: Can you actually go to the playoffs at 8 and 8?

Yup all four division winners are automatics.

[X-Era]

Re: Can you actually go to the playoffs at 8 and 8?

Yes. I'm surprised that you don't know this.

Jon

I guess I kinda did. But I never really thought about how bad it can get. I mean if a division really really stinks like ours you could at 6 and 10 or worse.

[BAM]

Re: Can you actually go to the playoffs at 8 and 8?

Maybe we'll be the first 7-9 team ever to win the SB.

[paladin warrior]

Re: Can you actually go to the playoffs at 8 and 8?

Sorry I rather forget it about the playoffs. If the Bills make in playoffs and there is no way Bills can beat Colts. Bills must have great def. and off and also Jp Losman play great player too. but I hope next year or sooner. Bills will win in superbowl!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[da6poweredef]

Re: Can you actually go to the playoffs at 8 and 8?

I would rather not go to the playoffs and extend somebody's tenure here.........



ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Holcomb or Losman?????

[TigerJ]

Re: Can you actually go to the playoffs at 8 and 8?

The NFC west last year was a case of a division that was weak across the board. I don't know what Seattle's division winning record was though. I'm guessing maybe 9-7.

[Dozerdog]

Re: Can you actually go to the playoffs at 8 and 8?

I would rather not go to the playoffs and extend somebody's tenure here.........



ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Holcomb or Losman?????

Do you realize how stupid this sounds?


If going to the playoffs means we keep a coach, that would be a bad thing?


What the F is the goal here?

[Meathead]

Re: Can you actually go to the playoffs at 8 and 8?

to ***** about it

[BillsRockSOMUCH]

Re: Can you actually go to the playoffs at 8 and 8?

This is the Pats remaining schedule:

Sun 11/27/2005	1:00 PM	@	Chiefs	CBS
Sun 12/4/2005	4:15 PM	vs	Jets	CBS
Sun 12/11/2005	1:00 PM	@	Bills	CBS
Sat 12/17/2005	1:30 PM	vs	Buccaneers	FOX
Mon 12/26/2005	9:00 PM	@	Jets	ABC
Sun 1/1/2006	1:00 PM	vs	Dolphins	CBS

Believe me, we aren't beating out the Pats from two games out when we have an impossible schedule and they have a easy one.

[BAM]

Re: Can you actually go to the playoffs at 8 and 8?

Do you realize how stupid this sounds?


If going to the playoffs means we keep a coach, that would be a bad thing?


What the F is the goal here?

And some people have the nerve to judge me because I smoke marijuana.

[Lexwhat]

Re: Can you actually go to the playoffs at 8 and 8?

This is the Pats remaining schedule:

Sun 11/27/2005	1:00 PM	@	Chiefs	CBS
Sun 12/4/2005	4:15 PM	vs	Jets	CBS
Sun 12/11/2005	1:00 PM	@	Bills	CBS
Sat 12/17/2005	1:30 PM	vs	Buccaneers	FOX
Mon 12/26/2005	9:00 PM	@	Jets	ABC
Sun 1/1/2006	1:00 PM	vs	Dolphins	CBS

Believe me, we aren't beating out the Pats from two games out when we have an impossible schedule and they have a easy one.

Ok so I just woke up today and my thanksgiving break has started for college, so I'm in a good mood. Let me try to put a positive spin on things. By the way, after breaking it down, it IS entirely possible, Please read ahead...I know it's a little complicated:

Now, I think that if we can TIE the Patriots after week 17 is over, IMO it is going to be VERY CLOSE...the BILLS I believe will hold the divisional tiebreaker:
1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule...(It will probally stop here, the Pats most likely have a harder schedule.)

Again, please read ahead...

For any of this to work, we need to beat the Patriots at the Ralph.

Unfortunatly, we have lost to the (1) NO Saints, (2) Oakland Raiders, and (3) Atlanta Falcons while the Patriots are 3-0 against those teams this year. However, the Patriots lost to the Broncos and Panthers. We play both the Broncos and Panthers at home. I believe we have a good chance at beating both those teams because our defense tends to play much better at home, and so does Willis. The Panthers are NOT a great road team (If Miami beat them, so can we), and Denver is 2-2 away from Mile High. I think with Denver being a Sunday Night Game at HOME, the Ralph should be jumpin...

What would need to happen is that the Pats would need to lose to the Chiefs, Bucs, and us. It's entirely possible. The Chiefs play well at home, and the Bucs look like a contender in the NFC with Chris Simms emerging and Cadillac re-emerging (Bucs are 3-2 on the road).

Now, we CAN lose to the Bengals and win the rest of our games. That would mean that we will be in a 9-7 tie with the Patriots and our division record and record against common opponents would be the SAME.

Which would lead us to tie-breaker scenario #4. If what I said above holds true, the BILLS would have the better record against AFC opponents.

I realize that this scenario seems a little far-fetched, but the Pats losing to the Chiefs, Bucs, and Bills is not a stretch. Nor is it a stretch to say that we can win those home games against Denver and Carolina and still lose to the Bengals.

Now people will say that we won't go anywhere even if we go to the playoffs. That's true, we'll never beat the Broncos or Bengals on the road, and we'll never beat the Colts regardless of where we play them. We'll probally not even beat the Chargers or Steelers even if we play at home.

However, if we even get to this, it would likely mean that:
1. JP is playing well. To me, if JP is playing well, I would consider it a successful season. We have our franchise QB and franchise RB and can build a team around those two.
2. JP would have the chance to play a playoff game at home. Say what you want, but it will be a great experience for him and Willis too.

Oh well, hope that someone found that helpful...

[Lexwhat]

Re: Can you actually go to the playoffs at 8 and 8?

You know, after reading what I wrote above, I wouldn't be surprised if the wild card to this whole scenario is the NY Jets. They would primarily be playing the spoiler role and have games against both the Bills and the Patriots at home.

NY Jets home games:

Sep 18	Miami	Won 17-7
Sep 25	Jacksonville	Lost 20-26

Oct 9

Tampa Bay

Won 14-12

Nov 6

San Diego

Lost 26-31

Damn, now that I think about, the Bills might very well lose to the Jets in NY. Oh well...just gotta hope for the best!

[da6poweredef]

Re: Can you actually go to the playoffs at 8 and 8?

If going to the playoffs means we keep a coach, that would be a bad thing?

YES it would. Is barely making the playoffs the ultimate goal of ANY franchise? How many of us are going to be happy limping into the playoffs during an off year for the division (read: Pats)? If we squeak in, we'll probably be quickly eliminated and go back to regular off-season "looking to next year" crap. I'm not looking forward to it for the umpteenth year in a row......