You know the OL is in trouble when...

[Ebenezer]

Jason Peters is the best OL. Seriously. Villarrial looks awful, Williams is a bust, Gandy is a turnstile...just when Teague looks like he is getting better he gets beat by Al Wallace for a sack. When an undrafted free agent TE is your best T or OL you are in serious trouble.

[Dr. Lecter]

Re: You know the OL is in trouble when...

Williams was actually playing well until he got hurt AGAIN!!!

Somebody shoot Villarrial.

[don137]

Re: You know the OL is in trouble when...

The thing that is really sad is the Bills have brought in a boat load of players for the OL the passed few years and they seem to go from bad to worse. It really is inexcusable to not get any decent players with the amount of players they brought in.
The ineffectiveness of the OL really is a big reason the Bills have not been competitive under the TD regime.

[OpIv37]

Re: You know the OL is in trouble when...

The thing that is really sad is the Bills have brought in a boat load of players for the OL the passed few years and they seem to go from bad to worse. It really is inexcusable to not get any decent players with the amount of players they brought in.
The ineffectiveness of the OL really is a big reason the Bills have not been competitive under the TD regime.

it's pretty much the ONLY reason. With a decent O-line, we could compensate for our lack of a D line and would have easily made the playoffs in 03 and 04. But TD is not a good judge of O line talent and insists on taking the best player available in the draft regardless of position. Hence, we end up with a boatload of backup receivers, no o-line help, and no depth at other positions.

[jamze132]

Re: You know the OL is in trouble when...

Our O-line is by far the worste in the NFL. And for that simnple reason, we lost today and will continue to lose until Donadick addresses the problem with some nice free agents. Anderson and Gandy don't qualify.

[Michael82]

Re: You know the OL is in trouble when...

Damien Woody.....
Mike Wahle.....
Keydrick Vincent.....
Rick DeMulling.....

[Forward_Lateral]

Re: You know the OL is in trouble when...

Damien Woody.....
Mike Wahle.....
Keydrick Vincent.....
Rick DeMulling.....

Well, Demulling isn't even a starter in Detroit anymore, and Woody looks pretty bad too. Wahle is playing well, can't say I even know who Vincent is.

[Michael82]

Re: You know the OL is in trouble when...

Well, Demulling isn't even a starter in Detroit anymore, and Woody looks pretty bad too. Wahle is playing well, can't say I even know who Vincent is.

Well then....if those guys are all doing bad, apparently TD did try to address the OL, but failed, just like other teams failed too.

Although, I wouldn't judge anyone on Detroit. That's a terrible team. Woody isn't that bad, he's just on a pathetic team.

[Michael82]

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and besides....

any of them are better than that piece of ****, Bennie "Fat Ass" Anderson.

[dannyek71]

Re: You know the OL is in trouble when...

and besides....

any of them are better than that piece of ****, Bennie "Fat Ass" Anderson.

TDs mind thinks: Fatter Linemen = better linemen.

[BillsFever21]

Re: You know the OL is in trouble when...

The thing that is really sad is the Bills have brought in a boat load of players for the OL the passed few years and they seem to go from bad to worse. It really is inexcusable to not get any decent players with the amount of players they brought in.
The ineffectiveness of the OL really is a big reason the Bills have not been competitive under the TD regime.

He keeps bringing in players but they are all a bunch of castoffs that didn't make it with their previous team(s)

He's trying to put a good line together by pairing a bunch of losers together. That won't cut it. What you're left with are a bunch of losers who aren't experienced in playing together. That leaves you with a bunch of inexperienced losers.

[BillsFever21]

Re: You know the OL is in trouble when...

Well then....if those guys are all doing bad, apparently TD did try to address the OL, but failed, just like other teams failed too.

Although, I wouldn't judge anyone on Detroit. That's a terrible team. Woody isn't that bad, he's just on a pathetic team.

If they're a terrible team at 4-7 what does that make us? We haven't had anymore success then they have the past 5 years.

They are a lot like us. They have some talent on the team but it's not translating into victories.

[Bill Cody]

Re: You know the OL is in trouble when...

Here's what I'd like to know: for three years Drew Bledsoe had to play behind clowns as bad or worse (Mike Pucillo anyone?) as the group we're trotting out there now and there was barely a peep about the o-line's problems. Instead it was "Bledsoe holds the ball", "Bledsoe sucks" blah blah blah. Now the guy that was supposed to be a "step forward" from Bledsoe flat out chokes the game away and generates a measly 2 FG's (the D GAVE him one) AT HOME and everyone either wants to give him a game ball or blame everything from the o-line to the D to the playcalling for the fact that we flushed away a VERY winnable game. You know what? TD should have built a line 3 years ago and Bledsoe would still be here, we'd be headed for the playoffs instead of a top 5 draft pick and we'd have used that 1st, 2nd and 5th to fill OTHER holes that flushing them on JP Lossman.

[BillsFever21]

Re: You know the OL is in trouble when...

Here's what I'd like to know: for three years Drew Bledsoe had to play behind clowns as bad or worse (Mike Pucillo anyone?) as the group we're trotting out there now and there was barely a peep about the o-line's problems. Instead it was "Bledsoe holds the ball", "Bledsoe sucks" blah blah blah. Now the guy that was supposed to be a "step forward" from Bledsoe flat out chokes the game away and generates a measly 2 FG's (the D GAVE him one) AT HOME and everyone either wants to give him a game ball or blame everything from the o-line to the D to the playcalling for the fact that we flushed away a VERY winnable game. You know what? TD should have built a line 3 years ago and Bledsoe would still be here, we'd be headed for the playoffs instead of a top 5 draft pick and we'd have used that 1st, 2nd and 5th to fill OTHER holes that flushing them on JP Lossman.

Bledsoe just stood there and curled up in a fetal postion and took a sack and fumbling. Losman is making plays out of nothing when he gets pressured. Bledsoe would be taking twice as many sacks.

Losman is producing the same in his 6th start as Bledsoe was after 12 years for 1/3 of the price.

And if you think we'd be in the playoffs if Drew was here you need to pass the pipe this way. He had 2.5 miserable years here and couldn't get us anywhere. He was an uninspired POS.

And don't even bring up Dallas. His last 6 games have been the Drew Bledsoe we saw here. He lost two games by INT's going the other way for a score and has only 6 TD's along with 9 TO's and 8 fumbles.

[Bill Cody]

Re: You know the OL is in trouble when...

Bledsoe just stood there and curled up in a fetal postion and took a sack and fumbling. Losman is making plays out of nothing when he gets pressured. Bledsoe would be taking twice as many sacks.

Losman is producing the same in his 6th start as Bledsoe was after 12 years for 1/3 of the price.

And if you think we'd be in the playoffs if Drew was here you need to pass the pipe this way. He had 2.5 miserable years here and couldn't get us anywhere. He was an uninspired POS.

And don't even bring up Dallas. His last 6 games have been the Drew Bledsoe we saw here. He lost two games by INT's going the other way for a score and has only 6 TD's along with 9 TO's and 8 fumbles.

Right. JP's 1-5 as a starter and he has yet to pass for 200 yards in a game. It'll be YEARS before JP approaches the level of play Drew Bledsoe has shown this year. Last year we were 9-7 with Drew, this year 4-7 and sinking fast. 6-10 is likely. The Cowboys were 6-10 last year without Drew and headed for 10-6 and the playoffs with him, and he's going to the Pro Bowl for the 5th time. Deal with those facts.

My point was that we needed to build an o-line- 3 years ago.