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  • BillsFever21
    Registered User
    • Aug 2004
    • 9067

    In the last 7 games Willis...

    hasn't had a run over 14 yards, doesn't have a TD and only has a ypc of around 3.

    It's time to put up or shut up, Willis.
  • Ebenezer
    Give me a minute...
    • Jul 2002
    • 73868

    #2
    Re: In the last 7 games Willis...

    Originally posted by BillsFever21
    hasn't had a run over 14 yards, doesn't have a TD and only has a ypc of around 3.

    It's time to put up or shut up, Willis.
    same problem as Bledsoe last year...same problem since 1986...

    NO OFFENSIVE LINE. When will you understand that??

    Jim Brown could not run behind this line.




    For all the education and practice each of us undergoes, the achievment of mastery is ultimately the outcome of a personal quest for understanding.

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    • Dr. Lecter
      Zero for Zero!
      • Mar 2003
      • 67938

      #3
      Re: In the last 7 games Willis...

      I understand the problem. You understand the problem. Many other fans do as well.

      TD, on the other hand...........
      Originally posted by mysticsoto
      Lecter is right in everything he said.

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      • BillsFever21
        Registered User
        • Aug 2004
        • 9067

        #4
        Re: In the last 7 games Willis...

        Originally posted by Ebenezer
        same problem as Bledsoe last year...same problem since 1986...

        NO OFFENSIVE LINE. When will you understand that??

        Jim Brown could not run behind this line.
        The OL did ok to get him 13 TD's last year and double digit TD's for Henry for a couple years.

        And Bledsoe isn't playing that spectacular in Dallas with an improved OL. In his last 7 games he has 8 TD's, 11 TO's and 9 fumbles. That's just Drew Bledsoe.

        Great RB's can still make big plays without a brick wall for an OL. Our run blocking isn't the best in the league but it isn't the worse either.

        Did Barry Sanders have a great OL? How about Dominick Davis for Houston? He's an average RB who is still making big plays behind the absolute worst line for years. He has more total yards and TD's then Willis and has missed two games playing in HOUSTON.

        Willis is a good but not great back. You can't waver around the fact he hasn't been running hard or giving full effort the last couple months but is gonna want money like Edgerrin James. Do you wanna pay him that cash?

        Does Miami have a good line? Hell no. How is Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams doing? Brown is outplaying McGahee this year even though he is splitting carries. Does Miami have a good line? Be honest with yourself.

        Gid rid of the homerism and face the facts that McGahee has taken a step back this year and he's not a Top 5 RB like you wanna believe.

        Didn't you say the same thing about Henry? Thought he was a top RB in the league till he finally proved otherwise and McGahee joined the picture. You didn't want to trade him. Stop overrating our players just because you have blind fandom for them and be a realist.

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        • fabolouspaul
          Registered User
          • Oct 2002
          • 699

          #5
          Re: In the last 7 games Willis...

          Originally posted by BillsFever21
          hasn't had a run over 14 yards, doesn't have a TD and only has a ypc of around 3.

          It's time to put up or shut up, Willis.
          I'm not defending Willis at all, BUT if we would've ran it on the 1 yard line on 1st down, im sure he would've had a td. Damn playcalling!!!!!!!!!
          LA needs a football team so that I can watch a Bills game live.

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          • Ebenezer
            Give me a minute...
            • Jul 2002
            • 73868

            #6
            Re: In the last 7 games Willis...

            Originally posted by BillsFever21
            The OL did ok to get him 13 TD's last year and double digit TD's for Henry for a couple years.

            And Bledsoe isn't playing that spectacular in Dallas with an improved OL. In his last 7 games he has 8 TD's, 11 TO's and 9 fumbles. That's just Drew Bledsoe.

            Great RB's can still make big plays without a brick wall for an OL. Our run blocking isn't the best in the league but it isn't the worse either.

            Did Barry Sanders have a great OL? How about Dominick Davis for Houston? He's an average RB who is still making big plays behind the absolute worst line for years. He has more total yards and TD's then Willis and has missed two games playing in HOUSTON.

            Willis is a good but not great back. You can't waver around the fact he hasn't been running hard or giving full effort the last couple months but is gonna want money like Edgerrin James. Do you wanna pay him that cash?

            Does Miami have a good line? Hell no. How is Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams doing? Brown is outplaying McGahee this year even though he is splitting carries. Does Miami have a good line? Be honest with yourself.

            Gid rid of the homerism and face the facts that McGahee has taken a step back this year and he's not a Top 5 RB like you wanna believe.

            Didn't you say the same thing about Henry? Thought he was a top RB in the league till he finally proved otherwise and McGahee joined the picture. You didn't want to trade him. Stop overrating our players just because you have blind fandom for them and be a realist.

            Blind fandom?? I didn't want WM to be drafted in the first place. I think you've tripped into one too many boiled vats of oil.




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            • WCoastFin
              I have the arms of a new born baby!
              • Jul 2002
              • 1701

              #7
              Re: In the last 7 games Willis...

              I've said it all along....he's not that good....at least not good enough to be drafted in the 1st round....what were the Bills thinking when they got suckered by his agent????
              We wanna see you spit now!!!lets face it we suck.

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              • JD
                Sabres Zone
                • Sep 2003
                • 13752

                #8
                Re: In the last 7 games Willis...

                Originally posted by Ebenezer
                same problem as Bledsoe last year...same problem since 1986...

                NO OFFENSIVE LINE. When will you understand that??

                Jim Brown could not run behind this line.

                Exactly...if McGahee were to goto the Cowboys he would be making LT look like a little school girl.
                “You hold a players only meeting and get each guy to stand up and say what he can bring to the table... and if he doesn't, you punch him in the face.” ~~ Harry Neale, on how to fix the Sabres season.

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                • STAMPY
                  Hall of Fame Zoner
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 9557

                  #9
                  Re: In the last 7 games Willis...

                  Originally posted by JD SabreFan
                  Exactly...if McGahee were to goto the Cowboys he would be making LT look like a little school girl.
                  This is humorous man

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                  • Philagape
                    WIN NOW
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 19432

                    #10
                    Re: In the last 7 games Willis...

                    McGahee has been billed as a special RB when healthy, the kind that could improvise and make things happen even when blocking broke down.

                    Ain't happening.

                    And the knee history is no longer an excuse.

                    Lionel Gates can do what Willis has been doing. If Willis dares to hold out next year, let him.
                    "It is better to be divided by truth than to be united by error." -- Martin Luther

                    "Those who appease the crocodile will simply be eaten last." -- Winston Churchill

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                    • Dr. Lecter
                      Zero for Zero!
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 67938

                      #11
                      Re: In the last 7 games Willis...

                      Where the hell did you pull Lionel Gates from???

                      The guy has played exactly zero plays in the NFL. That assumption is without any foundation.
                      Originally posted by mysticsoto
                      Lecter is right in everything he said.

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                      • Philagape
                        WIN NOW
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 19432

                        #12
                        Re: In the last 7 games Willis...

                        Assuming that he can average 3 yards a carry is not a big assumption. He has looked good in the preseason, so I believe he can cross that threshold.
                        "It is better to be divided by truth than to be united by error." -- Martin Luther

                        "Those who appease the crocodile will simply be eaten last." -- Winston Churchill

                        2003 BZ Pick Em Champion
                        2004 BZ Big Money League Champion

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                        • BillsFever21
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 9067

                          #13
                          Re: In the last 7 games Willis...

                          Originally posted by Ebenezer
                          Blind fandom?? I didn't want WM to be drafted in the first place. I think you've tripped into one too many boiled vats of oil.
                          Who did want him drafted at the time? After he came out of the gates strong last season everybody was singing a different tune.

                          The morale was that you keep blaming the OL for everything that happens even though a barely average RB like Henry did good behind it and McGahee had a good year. He's just not playing up to his potential this year. The line has isn't the only one responsible for it.

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                          • camelcowboy
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 7449

                            #14
                            Re: In the last 7 games Willis...

                            Originally posted by BillsFever21
                            Who did want him drafted at the time? After he came out of the gates strong last season everybody was singing a different tune.

                            The morale was that you keep blaming the OL for everything that happens even though a barely average RB like Henry did good behind it and McGahee had a good year. He's just not playing up to his potential this year. The line has isn't the only one responsible for it.
                            The whole team has played bad, and the o-line is worse then last year. Mike Williams may wear a dress home from the game, but last year he was one of the better run blockers and was relatively healthy. Jennings is a better run blocker then gandy and had a great year last year. These were the guys blocking for Travis, and Willis last year. So how about you think about some of the crap you type, because your comparing the starters of this year to the starters of 2 years ago. When the two most important postions, the tackles, and left guard have been changed. This line is better in pass protection, but they lack the toughness in run blocking.

                            So keep making your point about how this is the same offensive line that blocked for travis henry, and willis in years past when only TWO of FIVE starters are the same. The offensive line has been bad for years. This year its worse.


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                            • Dr. Lecter
                              Zero for Zero!
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 67938

                              #15
                              Re: In the last 7 games Willis...

                              Originally posted by Philagape
                              Assuming that he can average 3 yards a carry is not a big assumption. He has looked good in the preseason, so I believe he can cross that threshold.
                              Many players looked good in pre-season against 2nd and 3rd stringers as well as the currently unemployed.

                              Remember Anthony Gray a few years ago?
                              Originally posted by mysticsoto
                              Lecter is right in everything he said.

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