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  • X-Era
    What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
    • Feb 2005
    • 27670

    Troy Vincent and Fletcher just might stay!!!

    Listening to Mularkey, he LOVES Fletcher. Hew ent on and on about his approach to the game.

    Personally Im on the fence with him. I watched him get dragged for 1st downs by RB's today, miss a big tackle on Dillon in the backfield.

    I just wonder about him going forward. But Mularkeys comments certainly are making me rethink my opinion on Fletch. If he has THAT strong of a mentality and leadership, thats a great thing. So, maybe hes back on my keeper list.

    As far as Troy goes. He certianly said all the right things today. Hes anothert one that has looked falt out horrible with pathetic tackling and never seeming to make a play. But, he is talking the talk by saying they are playing for Mularkey and that they take responsibility for their play, that Mularkey isnt the one out there on the field.

    Could these guys just be saying what we want to hear and then loafing and not playing like they can? maybe.

    And, it probably wont matter at least as far as playing for Mularkey unless the reports about Ralph really liking him ARE true and he isnt fired.

    I dont know. Maybe a complete gutting of the defense isnt that smart of a thing to do. Maybe Milloy, not Vincent is the odd man out, maybe Posey is gone but not Fletcher.

    If TD goes, we get a REAL GM, and we hire a quality OC. Can we survive keeping Mularkey? Might it even be a good thing if these vets are truly like him that much?

    The Moulds issues wont be a problem with Mularkey, Moulds is likely gone.

    I cant disagree with canning Mularkey but lets not try to say keep Moulds and can Mularkey, because Moulds is probably gone no matter what. And if thats the case, if MUlarkey stays he has no issue with the vets, supposedly, after Moulds leaves.

    Thoughts?

  • ublinkwescore
    Sab and TD are insignificant
    • Sep 2002
    • 24178

    #2
    Re: Troy Vincent and Fletcher just might stay!!!

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    • ShadowHawk7
      Ground your Jets Vilma, no way you're shooting this guy down.
      • Mar 2003
      • 2274

      #3
      Re: Troy Vincent and Fletcher just might stay!!!

      Originally posted by ublinkwescore
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      Yeah, I don't know JP, Fletch has been our overall best defensive player this year and has a decent shot at a pro bowl. Don't hurt yourself on the fence there, you may be there for awhile.

      Speaking of the Pro Bowl, do anyone think anyone at all is going to make it? I'd say Schobel makes it as an alt, Fletch makes it, and Moorman makes it. Thoughts? Man, Willis looked like he was going to make it too, the first 6-8 games of the season..
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      • Lexwhat
        Registered User
        • Feb 2005
        • 2926

        #4
        Re: Troy Vincent and Fletcher just might stay!!!

        McGee is a lock for it at Kick Returner

        Willis and Nate might make it just on the basis of their names. Although London deserves it more than any other player on our defense.

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        • Lexwhat
          Registered User
          • Feb 2005
          • 2926

          #5
          Re: Troy Vincent and Fletcher just might stay!!!

          You could make a case for Lindell. But he probally wont. Not with Vinatari being in the AFC.

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          • ogreen44
            Registered User
            • Dec 2005
            • 4

            #6
            Re: Troy Vincent and Fletcher just might stay!!!

            what about clements, i know hes a free agent at the end of the year, what r the odds he decides to return. If he leaves the secondary will need a superstar replacement. What r anyone thoughts?

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            • Kerr
              Hall of Fame Zoner
              • Feb 2005
              • 6656

              #7
              Re: Troy Vincent and Fletcher just might stay!!!

              Fletcher is at his best when he has two big mammoths in front of him helping him out. Right now, he's left with half of that and an average DT. As soon as Pat Williams left town, you could see more of his weakness. I wouldn't be entirely opposed to fletcher coming back, but a mlb for the future needs to be brought in or developed regardless.

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              • Kerr
                Hall of Fame Zoner
                • Feb 2005
                • 6656

                #8
                Re: Troy Vincent and Fletcher just might stay!!!

                Originally posted by ogreen44
                what about clements, i know hes a free agent at the end of the year, what r the odds he decides to return. If he leaves the secondary will need a superstar replacement. What r anyone thoughts?

                Ty Law? Charles Woodson? Both might be too expensive though.

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                • Drive 4 Five
                  Registered User
                  • May 2003
                  • 2202

                  #9
                  Re: Troy Vincent and Fletcher just might stay!!!

                  Originally posted by Lexwhat
                  McGee is a lock for it at Kick Returner

                  Willis and Nate might make it just on the basis of their names. Although London deserves it more than any other player on our defense.
                  No disrespect Lex but there is no way in ****ing hell that Nate Clements or Willis McGahee make any PB squad; even as third stringers. For what? Running their ****ing mouths all year and then getting embarassed over and over again. Right now, neither of those names mean **** in this league.

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                  • Kerr
                    Hall of Fame Zoner
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 6656

                    #10
                    Re: Troy Vincent and Fletcher just might stay!!!

                    I'm at odds against Willis. Supposedly he was the real deal coming out of UM, but after a good debut season when he said he was at 85%, he has now regressed when he is supposed to be at 100%. I don't really understand. He has a job to do regardless of the circumstances with the coaches and the state of the team. He has not made anything happen like great rb's are supposed to do. Breakaway speed? It doesn't even fit in. I feel like TD flopped another pick when he chose Mcgahee. At this point, i'd rather have Ricky Williams who has a few years left. He just might win comeback player of the year and he looks like the Ricky of old. His breakaway speed is a lot better than Willis'. I believe he's a free agent after the season, although i've been told he'll stay with the fins as a backup by a fin fan.

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                    • onceproudbillsfan
                      Registered User
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 115

                      #11
                      Re: Troy Vincent and Fletcher just might stay!!!

                      We definently need to keep Fletcher. He is a tackling machine and provides very good leadership. Fletcher, TKO, and Crowell could be the best linebacker trio in the nfl next year.

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                      • sba
                        Registered User
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 545

                        #12
                        Re: Troy Vincent and Fletcher just might stay!!!

                        Fletch is the only guy on this team that plays with any heart at all.

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                        • Lexwhat
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 2926

                          #13
                          Re: Troy Vincent and Fletcher just might stay!!!

                          Originally posted by Drive 4 Five
                          No disrespect Lex but there is no way in ****ing hell that Nate Clements or Willis McGahee make any PB squad; even as third stringers. For what? Running their ****ing mouths all year and then getting embarassed over and over again. Right now, neither of those names mean **** in this league.

                          I didn't say they deserve to go. The pro-bowl is a popularity contest. Based on that alone, they may go. You know, like a Ruben Brown type of story.

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                          • The_Philster
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 52180

                            #14
                            Re: Troy Vincent and Fletcher just might stay!!!

                            Originally posted by Lexwhat
                            I didn't say they deserve to go. The pro-bowl is a popularity contest. Based on that alone, they may go. You know, like a Ruben Brown type of story.
                            Thing is...looking back..Ruben deserved most of those trips to Hawaii
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                            • casdhf
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 17542

                              #15
                              Re: Troy Vincent and Fletcher just might stay!!!

                              Originally posted by sba
                              Fletch is the only guy on this team that plays with any heart at all.
                              I agree with this 100%. He is our defense right now.
                              Originally posted by BillsZone Mod
                              cas,

                              I'm just letting you know that you have been given 2 points for telling Wys AKA Mark to kill himself.

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