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L.A. Playa
12-20-2005, 02:16 PM
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=750 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class="" vAlign=top width=560>Stock Watch: Joe Blows

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD height=7><SPACER type="block" width="1" height="1"></TD></TR><TR><TD class=yspsctnhdln>Stock Watch: Joe Blows</TD></TR><TR><TD height=7><SPACER type="block" width="1" height="1"></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>By John Hansen
December 20, 2005
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The "No Duh" Upgrades
Todd Heap (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5478/) (TE, Bal) – Somewhat quietly, Heap's been pretty money this year, logging in some big games and consistently putting up decent numbers. He's always clicked well with QB Kyle Boller (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6355/), and he's obviously this team's go-to receiver, so you need to keep using him.
Rod Smith (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/3328/) (WR, Den) – Fellow wideout Ashley Lelie (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5905/) is clearly a one-trick pony, and Smith clearly has some game left him in, so you need to use him the rest of the way. He had 18 pass targets, three in the red zone, and had catches for 24, 11, 34, 14, and 15 yards against the Bills. That is sick, and Bills corner Nate Clements (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5468/) stinks, by the way. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

OpIv37
12-20-2005, 02:24 PM
I'm done with him- let some other joke team overpay for his sorry ass.

Patrick76777
12-20-2005, 02:26 PM
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=750 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class="" vAlign=top width=560>Stock Watch: Joe Blows

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD height=7><SPACER type="block" width="1" height="1"></TD></TR><TR><TD class=yspsctnhdln>Stock Watch: Joe Blows</TD></TR><TR><TD height=7><SPACER type="block" width="1" height="1"></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>By John Hansen
December 20, 2005
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The "No Duh" Upgrades
Todd Heap (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5478/) (TE, Bal) – Somewhat quietly, Heap's been pretty money this year, logging in some big games and consistently putting up decent numbers. He's always clicked well with QB Kyle Boller (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6355/), and he's obviously this team's go-to receiver, so you need to keep using him.
Rod Smith (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/3328/) (WR, Den) – Fellow wideout Ashley Lelie (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5905/) is clearly a one-trick pony, and Smith clearly has some game left him in, so you need to use him the rest of the way. He had 18 pass targets, three in the red zone, and had catches for 24, 11, 34, 14, and 15 yards against the Bills. That is sick, and Bills corner Nate Clements (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5468/) stinks, by the way. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


If John Hansen says so! Actually when asked for the top 3 corners in the league earlier in the year. Chad Johnson put Nate Clements in that group! Nate has shut Chad out each time they have played. Sure it may change this week, but seeing as how Clements won the first 3 matchups and this game doesn't matter to us, I won't lose any sleep.

Losing Clements will kill us next year.

OpIv37
12-20-2005, 02:32 PM
If John Hansen says so! Actually when asked for the top 3 corners in the league earlier in the year. Chad Johnson put Nate Clements in that group! Nate has shut Chad out each time they have played. Sure it may change this week, but seeing as how Clements won the first 3 matchups and this game doesn't matter to us, I won't lose any sleep.
Losing Clements will kill us next year.

you're out of your damn mind. Clements has been toasted for 4 games in a row now. He's hit or miss because he gambles on the big play. When it works 1 time out of 10 he looks like the best in the game. The other 90% of the time, he gives up huge plays (or a ton of short to medium plays).

Dr. Lecter
12-20-2005, 02:33 PM
How will losing Clements kill a team that is going to finish 4-12 or 5-11?

OpIv37
12-20-2005, 02:35 PM
You want to pay Nate Clements $50 million to give up 220 yards to Chris Chambers? Eric King can come off the bench and do that for $220k.

Patrick76777
12-20-2005, 02:38 PM
you're out of your damn mind. Clements has been toasted for 4 games in a row now. He's hit or miss because he gambles on the big play. When it works 1 time out of 10 he looks like the best in the game. The other 90% of the time, he gives up huge plays (or a ton of short to medium plays).



Just keep cutting guys Op. It's always your answer.

realdealryan
12-20-2005, 02:40 PM
You want to pay Nate Clements $50 million to give up 220 yards to Chris Chambers? Eric King can come off the bench and do that for $220k.

Drop them both and let Lee Evans pull a Troy Brown. I bet he holds him to 175 yards......

OpIv37
12-20-2005, 02:43 PM
Just keep cutting guys Op. It's always your answer.

Umm, maybe you didn't notice, but there's this thing called a SALARY CAP. This team has no O linemen, no DT's, and many other positions that could use attention. Plus, we're either going to have to pay Moulds $11 million a season or find another receiver to replace him.

CB is the most expensive position in the league. If we pay Nate the top 5 CB money that he will demand, how do you intend to fix all these other holes? You want to kill 8-10% of our salary cap on a CB who's had 4 bad games in a row. Brilliant.

Gunzlingr
12-20-2005, 02:50 PM
I am with OP on this one. Tag and bag Nate. I want to keep Moulds tho.

OpIv37
12-20-2005, 02:54 PM
Just keep cutting guys Op. It's always your answer.

oh one more thing- he's a FA so no one would be cutting him. It would be a passive move by not re-signing him.

L.A. Playa
12-20-2005, 04:01 PM
Im not ready to say Nate sucks, but take a look at the top corners in the league, Champ Bailey has not had a bad streak of games like Nate has, neither has Ronde Barber or any other top corner. Bottom line no one thought much of the Bears CB's until this year when they have a great front 7. Pressure from the DL makes a corner that much better, if you look at most of the great CB's in history they had a strong pass rush in front of them. Nate could be great with a consitent DL he proved that last year, this year we dont get enough pressure on the QB to make the CB's look good. If signing Nate makes it impossible to upgrade the DL and OL then I say let him go, it wont matter who we have play CB if our lines arent addressed big time.

If we can sign Nate and upgrade the OL and DL I say do it because with a good DL and a healthy Spikes Nate will return to the Pro Bowl form we have seen in the past

OpIv37
12-20-2005, 06:09 PM
it's not that he sucks- it's that he's not nearly good enough for the kind of money he will want to stay here.

Mr. Cynical
12-20-2005, 06:17 PM
How will losing Clements kill a team that is going to finish 4-12 or 5-11?

Great point.