This is for anyone who thinks the players learned something by 'winning'

[Mitchy moo]

Winning is great when the teachers have something to offer. The problem is the players are being taught by a bunch of neophites. Any win that keeps a small flame alive that the teachers will stay, is a bad win. They taught all of us fans that we fill the stadium and buy the merchandise and they'll lie to us and make us feel better about their incompetence. They also taught the players to speak intelligently about the Hall of fame and their own personal talents as we kept losing. They are trying to convince everyone but the people they need to most, their opponents. We are like 20 games under .500 (even) for the past five years and anything that keeps these guys around or improves thier chances of staying here is a bad thing.

When a cause has no purpose, you have no cause.

[Mitchy moo]

It's good we won a battle, the problem is we are losing the war. You replace generals that lose more battles than they won. It costs lives, time and money and potentially freedoms. When you give your enemy an advantage (like incompetent management/coaching), you end up losing more than you win. After 5 years, why would we want even a sliver of a chance that T.D. stays?

Every soldier lives for their next shot at winning, if the field is tilted they will be denied.

[BAM]

There an echo in here? :snicker: