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X-Era

01-01-2006, 05:52 PM

Im going with CBS Sportsline this week. I assume that they are right:

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/draft/update

Its current:

<table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">1</td><td align="left">Houston (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/HOU)</td><td align="left">2</td><td align="left">13</td><td align="left">0</td><td align="left">.133</td><td align="left">.553</td></tr><tr class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">2</td><td align="left">New Orleans (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/NO)</td><td align="left">3</td><td align="left">13</td><td align="left">0</td><td align="left">.188</td><td align="left">.522</td></tr><tr class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">3</td><td align="left">San Francisco (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/SF)</td><td align="left">3</td><td align="left">12</td><td align="left">0</td><td align="left">.200</td><td align="left">.569</td></tr><tr class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">4</td><td align="left">N.Y. Jets (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/NYJ)</td><td align="left">4</td><td align="left">12</td><td align="left">0</td><td align="left">.250</td><td align="left">.525</td></tr><tr class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">5</td><td align="left">Green Bay (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/GB)</td><td align="left">4</td><td align="left">12</td><td align="left">0</td><td align="left">.250</td><td align="left">.534</td></tr><tr class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">6</td><td align="left">Oakland (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/OAK)</td><td align="left">4</td><td align="left">12</td><td align="left">0</td><td align="left">.250</td><td align="left">.544</td></tr><tr class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">7</td><td align="left">Tennessee (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/TEN)</td><td align="left">4</td><td align="left">11</td><td align="left">0</td><td align="left">.267</td><td align="left">.494</td></tr><tr class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">8</td><td align="left">Buffalo (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/BUF)</td><td align="left">5</td><td align="left">11</td><td align="left">0</td><td align="left">.313</td><td align="left">.502</td></tr><tr class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">9</td><td align="left">Arizona (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/ARI)</td><td align="left">5</td><td align="left">11</td><td align="left">0</td><td align="left">.313</td><td align="left">.504</td></tr><tr class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">10</td><td align="left">Detroit (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/DET)</td><td align="left">5</td><td align="left">11</td><td align="left">0</td><td align="left">.313</td><td align="left">.506</td></tr><tr class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">11</td><td align="left">St. Louis (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/STL)</td><td align="left">5</td><td align="left">10</td><td align="left">0</td><td align="left">.333</td><td align="left">.474</td></tr><tr class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">12</td><td align="left">Cleveland (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/CLE)</td><td align="left">6</td><td align="left">10</td><td align="left">0</td><td align="left">.375</td><td align="left">.510</td></tr><tr class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">13</td><td align="left">Baltimore (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/BAL)</td><td align="left">6</td><td align="left">10</td><td align="left">0</td><td align="left">.375</td><td align="left">.526</td></tr><tr class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">14</td><td align="left">Philadelphia (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/PHI)</td><td align="left">6</td><td align="left">9</td><td align="left">0</td><td align="left">.400</td><td align="left">.523</td></tr><tr class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">15</td><td align="left">Atlanta (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/ATL)</td><td align="left">8</td><td align="left">8</td><td align="left">0</td><td align="left">.500</td><td align="left">.494</td></tr><tr class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">16</td><td align="left">Minnesota (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/MIN)</td><td align="left">8</td><td align="left">7</td><td align="left">0</td><td align="left">.533</td><td align="left">.471</td></tr><tr class="bg2" align="right" height="17" valign="middle"><td align="left">17</td><td align="left">Miami (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/page/MIA)</td><td align="left">9</td><td align="left">7</td><td align="left">0</td><td align="left">.563</td><td align="left">.459</td></tr></tbody></table>
Now, I see Houston beating SF, but that drops Houston to 2 and SF to three with NO having the 1st pick. At that spot it just may end up that NO takes Leinhart NOT Bush considering they have Duece and Brooks is gone. Then Houston would get Bush and SF can take D'Brick.

Anyways, we end up at 8? thats HUGE. I thought we would be at 11. A few things happened that helped, GB won and went to 4 and 12, Cleveland won and went to 5 and 11 behind us due to SOS, that moved us up one spot. Tenn is getting pounded but it makes no difference because they have a weaker SOS and would pick before us whether they are 5 and 11 or 4 and 12.

Now we most likely end p at 9. StL is 5 and 10 and are playing Dal. Wouldnt it be sweet for them to beat Dal and keep Bleedslow out of the playoffs! It also would mean a 6 and 10 recodr putting them behind us. If STL loses we drop below them due to SOS and a equal 5 and 11 record.

So thats it, if you care about being 8 instead of 9 root for STL. If you want Drew out of the playoffs root for STL.

We got our X-mas present a top 10 pick and the Jets have no shot at Bush or Leinhart without a trade!!!!

Michael82

01-01-2006, 06:02 PM

Wow! That's much higher than I thought we would be. I didn't realize how many things fell into place today. :shocked:

I hope the new GM gets a stud DT or trades down.

X-Era

01-01-2006, 06:07 PM

Wow! That's much higher than I thought we would be. I didn't realize how many things fell into place today. :shocked:

I hope the new GM gets a stud DT or trades down.

The stud DT really concerns me as I said in a previous post. I dont see anyone worthy of a 8-9 pick, honestly. Ngata was double teamed all game in the owl game but didnt do anything at all either. Furthermore, on plays where the ball carrier was strung wide and he could of ran and tried to make a play, he simply jogged and let someone else do it. I was real high on him but 8-9 is just to high for him right now. Now Wright hasnt impressed me either, I hope for a big bowl game agianst USC, but Im not sure we will see it. My favorite is Claude Wroten and I think he is the best DT prospect right now, just my opinion. But he isnt even worthy of a 8-9 pick. If we are stuck on DT, I say we trade down to 15-20 and get another day one pick. Theres plenty of OT's and/or DT's in later rounds. I like us getting a CB/S type in day one as well.

Mitchy moo

01-01-2006, 06:07 PM

Wow! That's much higher than I thought we would be. I didn't realize how many things fell into place today. :shocked:

I hope the new GM gets a stud DT or trades down.

The best we could of did is 5th if we lost to cinci, we ended up at 8th. We also have Tennesee's 3rd rounder (68th pick), not bad at all!!

X-Era

01-01-2006, 06:09 PM

The best we could of did is 5th if we lost to cinci, we ended up at 8th. We also have Tennesee's 3rd rounder (68th pick), not bad at all!!

The 8th in round 2 is a GREAT spot for a OT. Trueblood, and one of McNeil, Justice, Whitworth, Joseph may be there. My favorite is Whitworth but he is probably LONG gone after a strong showing against Miami.

Mr. Cynical

01-01-2006, 06:11 PM

St. Louis will probably lose to Dallas which will put them at #8, so we'd end up at 9. What surprised me is the logjam at SOS among us, Arizona and Detroit. Talk about close....

ICE74129

01-01-2006, 06:12 PM

X-Era

01-01-2006, 06:15 PM

DO NOT TRADE OUT OF THE 8th SPOT! It is a perfect position. Take a LT with that spot and a DT in the 2nd with the 8th pick.

it is nice to get two top 8 picks in the 3rd.

Look I may be stupid, but I love the draft. It is nice to not only have a first round pick again, but one that matters. Time to cut the crap and take some REAL Talent with those 4 picks!

But who? Before the LSU game I would have said Winston, but he looked unimpressive and Whitworth looked better. But Whitworth isnt worthy of a top 10 pick. DF'Brick is long gone.

Im not sure I see a sure fire top 10 player besides D'Brick at EITHER OT or DT.

If Clements is gone, why not get a lock down CB/S like Mike Huff and use FA plus later rounds to get DT and OT OG/C?

Novacane

01-01-2006, 06:15 PM

:lolpoint: at Jets fans. What a terrible win today was for them

ICE74129

01-01-2006, 06:17 PM

But who? Before the LSU game I would have said Winston, but he looked unimpressive and Whitworth looked better. But Whitworth isnt worthy of a top 10 pick. DF'Brick is long gone.

Im not sure I see a sure fire top 10 player besides D'Brick at EITHER OT or DT.

If Clements is gone, why not get a lock down CB/S like Mike Huff and use FA plus later rounds to get DT and OT OG/C?

Who says so and so isn't worth a top 10 pick? Unless it is a top 5 then the money drops signifigantly. Stay with the 8th pick! Don't trade down anymore, stay there and find someone that is worth the spot.

TacklingDummy

01-01-2006, 06:18 PM

lordofgun

01-01-2006, 06:18 PM

Well Dallas is now eliminated from the playoffs, so maybe they won't play as hard tonight!

lordofgun

01-01-2006, 06:19 PM

:lolpoint: at Jets fans. What a terrible win today was for them Yeah, but I bet it was great during the game. :rolleyes:

True Jets fans are ecstatic about the win!

Michael82

01-01-2006, 06:21 PM

:lolpoint: at Jets fans. What a terrible win today was for them
Agreed, and it appears that neither team in San Fransisco want to win either. It's all tied up 17-17.

I wonder what happens to the draft is they end up tied after OT? :scratch:

Michael82

01-01-2006, 06:23 PM

Well Dallas is now eliminated from the playoffs, so maybe they won't play as hard tonight!
:lolpoint: Drew Bledsoe and the Dallas Cowboys

lordofgun

01-01-2006, 06:23 PM

All the Texans need is a tie. SF needs them to win it!

X-Era

01-01-2006, 06:23 PM

If Moulds is cut I could see us taking a WR. By the time the WR we pick is good Evans contract will be up and he can replace Evans.

Personally I'd like to see a DT/DE with the pick. We don't need a O-line because Holcomb has shown he can play with the one we got. If we need to we can pick up o-line in FA.

Well, I gotta give you props for sticking to your guns, I just wonder if you arent idolizing the captain for the Titanic in the background. No disrespect, I love your guts man its all good.

Personally, Id love for us to land either Williams or Kiwi, both are ridiculously good.

Its gonna be fun. We dont need a QB, have a RB. This is a great chance to get an impact player who can step up and play day one.

TacklingDummy

01-01-2006, 06:24 PM

I wonder what happens to the draft is they end up tied after OT? :scratch:

Since Houston has the worst record in the league. 2-13. A Tie would still give them the first pick at 2-13-1.

Michael82

01-01-2006, 06:24 PM

TacklingDummy

01-01-2006, 06:26 PM

Its gonna be fun. We dont need a QB, have a RB. This is a great chance to get an impact player who can step up and play day one.

Oh besides needing a WR if Moulds leaves the Bills will need a CB to replace Clements if he leaves.

So I am thinking the Bills go CB or WR.

Wish they go DT/DE.

Michael82

01-01-2006, 06:26 PM

All the Texans need is a tie. SF needs them to win it!
Go Texans! Win the game! That would really piss off the Jets fans more. :snicker:

Michael82

01-01-2006, 06:27 PM

Man, it's about time we have a draft party that can actually start on time. This one will be exciting. :dance:

lordofgun

01-01-2006, 06:28 PM

I am so glad we lost today!!! :bf1:

Philagape

01-01-2006, 06:28 PM

SF just won

X-Era

01-01-2006, 06:30 PM

Man, it's about time we have a draft party that can actually start on time. This one will be exciting. :dance:

Wait, I OBSSESS over the draft and your moms making stove top stuffing, invite me over, invite me over!

I seriously would show for a draft shindig, lets do it!

Michael82

01-01-2006, 06:30 PM

Holy ****! What a terrible OT win for the 49ers. They fall out of the top 3 and into the 7th spot. :roflmao:

X-Era

01-01-2006, 06:31 PM

Holy ****! What a terrible OT win for the 49ers. They fall out of the top 3 and into the 7th spot. :roflmao:

Best part is teh Jets STILL dont get Leinhart or Bush! Gotta love it.

Michael82

01-01-2006, 06:32 PM

Wait, I OBSSESS over the draft and your moms making stove top stuffing, invite me over, invite me over!

I seriously would show for a draft shindig, lets do it!
we always have a BillsZone Draft Party in Buffalo, usually at this place called Rekkios (sp).

The_Philster

01-01-2006, 06:33 PM

we always have a BillsZone Draft Party in Buffalo, usually at this place called Rekkios (sp).
Clumpy was gonna look into someplace else for this year since we had those problems we had last year

X-Era

01-01-2006, 06:33 PM

we always have a BillsZone Draft Party in Buffalo, usually at this place called Rekkios (sp).

Im there, when it gets closer lets PM and I can hook up with ya guys. I usually just record every pick, scout every player, and go Psycho by myself or with my bro. BTW, there is usually LOTS of beer.

Id love to meet ya'll

X-Era

01-01-2006, 06:34 PM

Clumpy was gonna look into someplace else for this year since we had those problems we had last year

Problems?

The_Philster

01-01-2006, 06:34 PM

There will be big announcements on the forums when the draft gets closer

Michael82

01-01-2006, 06:35 PM

Clumpy was gonna look into someplace else for this year since we had those problems we had last year
Oh yeah, forgot about that. :doh:

Michael82

01-01-2006, 06:35 PM

There will be big announcements on the forums when the draft gets closer
Exactly. And this year, it will be a big one, because we got a top 10 draft pick. :bf1:

The_Philster

01-01-2006, 06:35 PM

Problems?
some jerks were intent on playing the jukebox loud....we were supposed to be able to have uninterrupted draft coverage..the staff at Reckios weren't helpful in this issue

Novacane

01-01-2006, 06:36 PM

Holy ****! What a terrible OT win for the 49ers. They fall out of the top 3 and into the 7th spot. :roflmao:

I know. All they had to do was lose and Bush was thiers but at least thier true fans will be happy :snicker:

BillsSabresB.C.T. Fan

01-01-2006, 06:38 PM

Wow! That's much higher than I thought we would be. I didn't realize how many things fell into place today. :shocked:
I hope the new GM gets a stud DT or trades down.

Tamba Hali

Mr. Cynical

01-01-2006, 06:38 PM

I know. All they had to do was lose and Bush was thiers but at least thier true fans will be happy :snicker:

:lmao:

Michael82

01-01-2006, 06:38 PM

I know. All they had to do was lose and Bush was thiers but at least thier true fans will be happy :snicker:
:gag:

djjimkelly

01-01-2006, 06:38 PM

its up in air still 8th or 9th if rams lose we will be 9th if rams win we will be 8th GO RAMS!!!!!

ICE74129

01-01-2006, 06:40 PM

X-Era

01-01-2006, 06:42 PM

I know. All they had to do was lose and Bush was thiers but at least thier true fans will be happy :snicker:

Not to be a told ya so, but I predicted a major shakeup in the top 5. Came out ot be true. SF and GB both out.

TigerJ

01-01-2006, 08:08 PM

If Buffalo picks at 8 in round one, they will pick lower in round 2 because it rotates in subsequent rounds among teams with identical records. SOS only breaks the tie in the first round.