4 coaches get the axe already!

[lordofgun]

Rams | Martz out as head coach
Sun, 1 Jan 2006 08:28:35 -0800

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports St. Louis Rams head coach Mike Martz will get fired after the 2005 season.

Raiders | Turner out as head coach
Sun, 1 Jan 2006 08:28:17 -0800

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports Oakland Raiders head coach Norv Turner will get fired after the 2005 season.

Texans | Capers out as head coach
Sun, 1 Jan 2006 08:28:59 -0800

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports Houston Texans head coach Dom Capers will get fired after the 2005 season.

Vikings | Tice out as head coach
Sun, 1 Jan 2006 08:25:46 -0800

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports Minnesota Vikings head coach Mike Tice will get fired after the 2005 season.

[LtBillsFan66]

:pray: Fire Mularkey please!

[Michael82]

Don't forget....

Kansas City Chiefs' HC Dick Vermeil retiring. That's 5 empty spots already. :shocked:

And there could be a few more.

[Devin]

Id be happy as long as TD left and we got a new OC and DC.

[lordofgun]

Parcells might be leaving too.

Herm Edwards could be out.

Tons of changes this year.

[Michael82]

Id be happy as long as TD left and we got a new OC and DC.
And the GM better force the OC on Mularkey, so Mularkey doesn't try doing it himself again. :ill:

[LtBillsFan66]

Crap. No one will want to come to Buffalo over those other teams.

[Michael82]

Parcells might be leaving too.

Herm Edwards could be out.

Tons of changes this year.
There could be at least 10 teams looking for a New Head Coach, new OCs, new DCs. Ralph better act fast!

[The_Philster]

Capers to replace Jerry Gray :pray:

[LtBillsFan66]

I hope Jerry Gray replaces Herm Edwards. :pray:

[Michael82]

Capers to replace Jerry Gray :pray:
Or even Ted Cotrell. :pray:

[Michael82]

I hope Jerry Gray replaces Herm Edwards. :pray:
That would please me. :snicker2:

[LtBillsFan66]

That would please me. :snicker2:
2 automatic wins. :up:

[The_Philster]

I hope Jerry Gray replaces Herm Edwards. :pray:
That would be sweet...we could fall behind the Jets and come back for the win every time :snicker:

[Michael82]

2 automatic wins. :up:
Plus it would give our offense a chance to pad their stats. JP Losman could gain some confidence against that defense. :up:

[FlyingDutchman]

you people know who the top people being touted for head coaching jobs are right? Gregg Williams and Wade Phillips....I would like to see Martz come here as an offensive coordinator...

[ICE74129]

I will say right now Greg Williams deserves a 2nd chance. Remember the article this week about how he advised someone on being yourself, not what your boss wants you to be? Take your time to hire your assistants instead of letting your boss pressure you into having them by a set date?

Seems to me TD and RW really screwed ol'boy over while he was here. I bet he ends up being pretty successful.

With all of these other owners willing to eat the contracts of thier HC's maybe that will sway RW to do the same? NAH! Ralph is too cheap to do that. :rage:

[Michael82]

you people know who the top people being touted for head coaching jobs are right? Gregg Williams and Wade Phillips....I would like to see Martz come here as an offensive coordinator...
That's the reason why I am starting to get somewhat comfortable with keeping Mularkey for one more year, as long as the GM makes the changes to the line and brings in some solid coordinators and some new assistants. :bigwave: Brad Roll

[Michael82]

I will say right now Greg Williams deserves a 2nd chance. Remember the article this week about how he advised someone on being yourself, not what your boss wants you to be? Take your time to hire your assistants instead of letting your boss pressure you into having them by a set date?

Seems to me TD and RW really screwed ol'boy over while he was here. I bet he ends up being pretty successful.

With all of these other owners willing to eat the contracts of thier HC's maybe that will sway RW to do the same? NAH! Ralph is too cheap to do that. :rage:
I'm worried that he's going to be become the next Bill Belichick myself. Belichick was bad in Cleveland, went to get some more mentoring under Parcells and then took over for the Patriots. I think that the couple years under Joe Gibbs was what Gregg Williams needed. And I also think he was strongly controlled by Tom Donahoe because he wanted to be a HC.

[G. Host]

Donahoe's problem is not enough control not too much. Gregg got every coach which was #1 on his list without a veto from Donahoe. Same thing appears happened with MM.

P.S. Do not count fired coached before they leave; ESPN and other sources have been wrong before.

[ublinkwescore]

I wouldn't mind seeing Tice or Edwards in here.

[Michael82]

I wouldn't mind seeing Tice or Edwards in here.
Edwards, yes. :up:

Tice??? HELL NO!!! :puke:

[ublinkwescore]

Parcells might be leaving too.

Herm Edwards could be out.

Tons of changes this year.

The Lions will be needing a new coach too - I doubt they'll stick it out with Jauron next year.

[ublinkwescore]

Edwards, yes. :up:
Tice??? HELL NO!!! :puke:

??

Look at the headcases he has in minnesota - they make Willis and Clements look like good samaritans.

I don't care what anyone says - Tice is a VERY viable option.

[gr8slayer]

I just want Donahoe gone. Period.

[ICE74129]

Donahoe's problem is not enough control not too much. Gregg got every coach which was #1 on his list without a veto from Donahoe. Same thing appears happened with MM.

P.S. Do not count fired coached before they leave; ESPN and other sources have been wrong before.

Not according to Gregg. If you read that article on advice to another young HC he told him not to let the Boss MAKE YOU get your assistants on staff in a certain time. Wait for the right ones and or the ones you want.

TD has had total control, way too much for any GM

[ublinkwescore]

you people know who the top people being touted for head coaching jobs are right? Gregg Williams and Wade Phillips....I would like to see Martz come here as an offensive coordinator...

I want Mike Martz to have nothing to do with the Bills - he's a west coast guy who just doesn't believe in the run.

[G. Host]

Not according to Gregg. If you read that article on advice to another young HC he told him not to let the Boss MAKE YOU get your assistants on staff in a certain time. Wait for the right ones and or the ones you want.

TD has had total control, way too much for any GM

Well then GW is covering for himself. GW is the one who stated publically at the time that he got all of his assistants he wanted, first in every list.

Either that he is admitting he was a liar then.

[ParanoidAndroid]

The Lions will be needing a new coach too - I doubt they'll stick it out with Jauron next year.

Jauron should stick to defense but he's capable of making a solid HC. Did you notice how Detroit's D production dropped off after he began taking on the total team planning? It was obvious.
Mike Martz should be the next Lions HC. It's all set up for him. He'll get his QB and those 3 receivers (if Rogers stays) will be lights out!

[ICE74129]

Well then GW is covering for himself. GW is the one who stated publically at the time that he got all of his assistants he wanted, first in every list.

Either that he is admitting he was a liar then.

What was he supposed to say as a first year HC? 'Gee my boss screwed me over by not letting me pick the assistants I wanted'? Not no hell no

[ArcticWildMan]

Greg Williams will be a thorn in our side for many years to come. He will be the next Bill Belichek.

[FirstDownBills]

I want Mike Martz to have nothing to do with the Bills - he's a west coast guy who just doesn't believe in the run.


We're speaking of the same guy right? Mike Martz, the one who lead his team to a Super Bowl. The one who had his team score an average of 33 points a game one season. Yeah, I definately don't want that guy here. Super Bowl? Who cares? Scoring points on offense? Our offense is fine!

[ublinkwescore]

he operates a scheme that simply will not work in Buffalo...PERIOD.

Buffalo's location (coupled with the fact that we play our games outside) is one that requires it to have a running game.

Mike Martz is a running game's worst enemy.

It can also be said that Mike Martz rode Dick Vermiel's coattails.

[lordofgun]

Greg Williams will be a thorn in our side for many years to come. He will be the next Bill Belichek.
ROTFLMAO!

[FirstDownBills]

he operates a scheme that simply will not work in Buffalo...PERIOD.

Buffalo's location (coupled with the fact that we play our games outside) is one that requires it to have a running game.

Mike Martz is a running game's worst enemy.

It can also be said that Mike Martz rode Dick Vermiel's coattails.

His scheme can work here. I don't see why it wouldn't.

[cordog]

Not according to Gregg. If you read that article on advice to another young HC he told him not to let the Boss MAKE YOU get your assistants on staff in a certain time. Wait for the right ones and or the ones you want.

TD has had total control, way too much for any GM


Maybe Gregg should actually be saying don't hire all your buddies as coaches. I think that was the real problem with ole Gregg Williams.

[lordofgun]

Maybe Gregg should actually be saying don't hire all your buddies as coaches. I think that was the real problem with ole Gregg Williams.
That and making some of the worst in-game decisions in NFL history. The guy was truly clueless out there.

[cordog]

That and making some of the worst in-game decisions in NFL history. The guy was truly clueless out there.


Yeah it was pretty damn bad

[mr nyjet]

That would be sweet...we could fall behind the Jets and come back for the win every time :snicker:


you're consistent! last year, you lost to steeler's jv team and this year , you lost to the jets freshman team. :crap::funny::peace::lmao:

[Samphin1]

There will actually be six available if you count Detroit, which I think you have to. Others possibly include: Dallas, New Orleans ( I really think Haslett might just up and leave ), and New York.

[ArcticWildMan]

ROTFLMAO!


Watch and see youngling. :miyagi:

[FlyingDutchman]

I want Mike Martz to have nothing to do with the Bills - he's a west coast guy who just doesn't believe in the run.

maybe he could use willis in a different way, or use JP more effectively. All i know is im sick of having a horrible offense and something needs to change. Martz is an offensive genius. Its not like we can run the ball anyway, why not get something new and fresh in here?:chat:

[chernobylwraiths]

Greg Williams will be a thorn in our side for many years to come. He will be the next Bill Belichek.

I doubt it.

[chernobylwraiths]

Mike Martz = Kevin Gilbride

No thanks.

I wouldn't mind bringing MM back next year if TD was fired, replaced with a hot young football guy (Felser in the paper today said something about an assistant to the GM in Chicago), AND if we could get guys like Norv Turner and Dom Capers as our coordinators. Neither has proven to be good head coaches but they are both excellant coordinators.

[Historian]

Gregg Williams sucks ass.

Tell any of those fans that come here.

They would rather wish for crabs, than wish for him as Head Coach.

[helmetguy]

His scheme can work here. I don't see why it wouldn't.

Ever been to the Ralph in Nov./Dec.?

[Michael82]

There will actually be six available if you count Detroit, which I think you have to. Others possibly include: Dallas, New Orleans ( I really think Haslett might just up and leave ), and New York.
I'm guessing between 8-10 teams.

[Topdog]

Tice is a better coach than you give him credit for!.

Too bad he had a bunch oF losers to work with.

However he did finish out 7-2!

[Michael82]

Tice is a better coach than you give him credit for!.

Too bad he had a bunch oF losers to work with.

However he did finish out 7-2!
I was wondering what your thoughts on him were. He always seems like a little bit of a baffoon to me.

[Yasgur's Farm]

Capers to replace Jerry Gray :pray:And Norv Turner to replace Tom Clements.

[Michael82]

And Norv Turner to replace Tom Clements.
hmmm, interesting choice! Turner is a very good coordinator and believes in running the football a lot. I like that. :clap:

[ublinkwescore]

His scheme can work here. I don't see why it wouldn't.

Weather - Wind, Snow, rain - those are conditions that are ideal for a conservative game with many rushing attempts.

Besides, you need to be balanced in today's NFL to win.