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  • Bill Cody
    Registered User
    • Sep 2004
    • 11885

    JP Lovers Do Not Read This

    If you think JP is the answer and all he needs is more experience, I respect that take, although I don't happen to agree.

    If you have grave, grave concerns about JP's apparent lack of intelligence, his pocket awareness and his accuracy, things that may never dramatically improve, consider this alternative.

    Vince Young's all world performance in the Rose Bowl has made it a distinct possibility that Houston will draft him, not Reggie Bush, #1. He's from Houston and the airwaves are buzzing with the possibility. In that case, it means former #1 overall pick David Carr will be available. Houston may ask for a #1 pick for Carr, but IMO they are not likely to get one, a 2nd would probably be enough. Yes, Carr has been sacked more than groceries at the local Piggly Wiggly in the past four years. But at only age 26 I think he could still turn it around if we committ to rebuilding our OL. JP is IMO a long term project and even in a best case scenario it'll be years before he's producing at a high level. If we moved JP for a late 2nd or 3rd, the move wouldn't cost us much.

    The problem for JP here is he's no where near ready for prime time and you have in Mularkey the equivalent of a lame duck coach- he has to have a winning season next year to survive. If he goes with JP and we have another horrid start, which is a very distinct possibility, it'll be back to the Holcomb "let's try and win some games" carousel. I like Holcomb but he is what he is, an average to slightly above average NFL QB. But that's a lot better than JP, at least right now. So Carr is worth some thought IMO.
  • Mudflap1
    Next Question!
    • Nov 2004
    • 3281

    #2
    Re: JP Lovers Do Not Read This

    Good post! How about this... franchise Nate Clements, then trade him to Houston straight up for Carr? Pretty good trade...

    Jon

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    • L.A. Playa
      Registered User
      • Aug 2003
      • 19295

      #3
      Re: JP Lovers Do Not Read This

      offer them a 3 this year and next year for Carr and bring him in IF you fix the OL first

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      • Philagape
        WIN NOW
        • Jul 2002
        • 19432

        #4
        Re: JP Lovers Do Not Read This

        Since your ******ed posts are on ignore, I can't read it anyway
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        • THATHURMANATOR
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 69112

          #5
          Re: JP Lovers Do Not Read This

          Yeah I would bring him in. Would much rather have him than stupid Holcomb.

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          • Philagape
            WIN NOW
            • Jul 2002
            • 19432

            #6
            Re: JP Lovers Do Not Read This

            How bout that Cowboys-Rams game???
            "It is better to be divided by truth than to be united by error." -- Martin Luther

            "Those who appease the crocodile will simply be eaten last." -- Winston Churchill

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            • Iehoshua
              Registered User
              • Jan 2003
              • 12906

              #7
              Re: JP Lovers Do Not Read This

              David Carr?


              Why do you want to downgrade? I expected you to be at least making some argument that we move up for Leinhart or Young, that would've made a bit more sense coming from you, not trading for Tim Couch the 2nd...

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              • Mudflap1
                Next Question!
                • Nov 2004
                • 3281

                #8
                Re: JP Lovers Do Not Read This

                Originally posted by Darth Takeo
                David Carr?


                Why do you want to downgrade? I expected you to be at least making some argument that we move up for Leinhart or Young, that would've made a bit more sense coming from you, not trading for Tim Couch the 2nd...
                Carr is a downgrade from Holcomb and Losman? Please.

                Jon

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                • don137
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 7720

                  #9
                  Re: JP Lovers Do Not Read This

                  Trey Wingo was on the local sports station this morning and its sounds like the brass of the Texans think too much money is invested into Carr. He has a 8 million dollar bonus in March and they intend to pay him. He said from what he was told by the Texans that there is no way they go after Young.

                  Plus what makes no sense is Carr is young enough to turn it around by Losman isn't.

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                  • L.A. Playa
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 19295

                    #10
                    Re: JP Lovers Do Not Read This

                    Trey Wingo is a dork, it will be a PR disaster if Young comes out and the Texans dont take him

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                    • Iehoshua
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 12906

                      #11
                      Re: JP Lovers Do Not Read This

                      Originally posted by Mudflap1
                      Carr is a downgrade from Holcomb and Losman? Please.

                      Jon
                      Carr's record as it stands is just as bad as Ryan Leaf's.

                      Would you want to go out and get him too?

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                      • L.A. Playa
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 19295

                        #12
                        Re: JP Lovers Do Not Read This

                        I hear Ryan Leaf is washing cars now

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                        • ublinkwescore
                          Sab and TD are insignificant
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 24178

                          #13
                          Re: JP Lovers Do Not Read This

                          Tim Couch the second?

                          I really don't see that when I see Carr - I see a tough QB that has a line worse then ours in front of him that still manages some solid play - but needs more nurturing.
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                          • Mudflap1
                            Next Question!
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 3281

                            #14
                            Re: JP Lovers Do Not Read This

                            I think it's a toss up. Obviously they have the choice to go in two dramatically different directions. Do you unload a guy that you have paid a lot of money and go after a local hero who has a lot of mobility (Young), and trade Carr for some picks or defense? Or, do you keep Carr since you have a large investment with him, and draft Reggie Bush? Or do you draft Leinart? They probably won't do the latter, probably Young or Bush.

                            Jon

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                            • The last buffalo fan
                              I told the pet store guy "How else am I supposed to get the mouse out of my ass?"
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 18204

                              #15
                              Re: JP Lovers Do Not Read This

                              Originally posted by Philagape
                              Since your ******ed posts are on ignore, I can't read it anyway
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