Since he didnt do much Sitting on the bench behind Peyton manning (*) (BTW...5 games appered, 1 started for a 44.4 QB rating.(#)
Lets look at his Cleveland Career with some stats from this year.
First off missed tons of time being oft injured. That showed again with a concussion. That said lets look at some stats....
1) A losing record. Games started he is 7-12 (including here)
2) Until this year 27 TD's and 29 Ints. Thanks to this year he is 37-37. Not impressive at all for a 10 year veteran.
3) Games that he actually played in but DNS (did not start) his record is 1-5. Now a little side note, There were games listed that had losses on them and said 'no' under the start catigory, but they didn't provide any stats for him.
4) has always had a high completion %.
That is about it. Now lets get too it...
The only reason this guy has stayed around is he can sustain drives by dinking and dunking. There is a problem with that, he doesnt' score. It was the same this year and every year he has played. His completion % for his career is an outstanding 64.6/ But only a 79.9 QB rating. The guy doesnt' put up points. This is evidenced by his losing record, and the horrible lack of TD's for his career.
Sorry he isn't the answer for the 'win now' club.
(*) now for the fun part. I hear two things. 'Win now don't devleop a guy' And 'Let him learn in camp and practice. That will prepare him'.
Really? holcomb was in Indy for FIVE FRIGGIN YEARS! Didnt help him much did it? Under two great offensive minds. The man who is the OC and the legend Teddy Marchibrota. So there is the proof positive sitting and just playing a few snaps in camp does NOT make you a good QB.
And lastly on this subject, seems Bill Polian the best damn GM around says different. you DO pick a guy and develop him. how did that work out for Polian and indy?
(#) Holcomb again had a great Completion %...with 1 TD and 8 int's added to it. So in what was his 2nd year he saw 5 games, Threw 1 TD and 8 picks. outside of the Completion %...looks to me like JP had a better 2nd year huh?
Holcomb isnt' the answer. Never has been, never will be and is a career loser on the downside of his career. He isn't any better than JP other than he kisses the other vets asses and throws dink and dunk passes to pad his comepletion % making his QB rating look good. All the while NOT putting up points and losing.
This staff needs to dedicate it's self to JP this offseason and in the 06 season. Get him the help he needs and let him go the full 16 games and see how it works out.
Arguement over.
Lets look at his Cleveland Career with some stats from this year.
First off missed tons of time being oft injured. That showed again with a concussion. That said lets look at some stats....
1) A losing record. Games started he is 7-12 (including here)
2) Until this year 27 TD's and 29 Ints. Thanks to this year he is 37-37. Not impressive at all for a 10 year veteran.
3) Games that he actually played in but DNS (did not start) his record is 1-5. Now a little side note, There were games listed that had losses on them and said 'no' under the start catigory, but they didn't provide any stats for him.
4) has always had a high completion %.
That is about it. Now lets get too it...
The only reason this guy has stayed around is he can sustain drives by dinking and dunking. There is a problem with that, he doesnt' score. It was the same this year and every year he has played. His completion % for his career is an outstanding 64.6/ But only a 79.9 QB rating. The guy doesnt' put up points. This is evidenced by his losing record, and the horrible lack of TD's for his career.
Sorry he isn't the answer for the 'win now' club.
(*) now for the fun part. I hear two things. 'Win now don't devleop a guy' And 'Let him learn in camp and practice. That will prepare him'.
Really? holcomb was in Indy for FIVE FRIGGIN YEARS! Didnt help him much did it? Under two great offensive minds. The man who is the OC and the legend Teddy Marchibrota. So there is the proof positive sitting and just playing a few snaps in camp does NOT make you a good QB.
And lastly on this subject, seems Bill Polian the best damn GM around says different. you DO pick a guy and develop him. how did that work out for Polian and indy?
(#) Holcomb again had a great Completion %...with 1 TD and 8 int's added to it. So in what was his 2nd year he saw 5 games, Threw 1 TD and 8 picks. outside of the Completion %...looks to me like JP had a better 2nd year huh?
Holcomb isnt' the answer. Never has been, never will be and is a career loser on the downside of his career. He isn't any better than JP other than he kisses the other vets asses and throws dink and dunk passes to pad his comepletion % making his QB rating look good. All the while NOT putting up points and losing.
This staff needs to dedicate it's self to JP this offseason and in the 06 season. Get him the help he needs and let him go the full 16 games and see how it works out.
Arguement over.
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