Watch any TV tonight Ralph????

[Historian]

The worst team in the history or ORGANIZED TEAM SPORTS has now won the Super Bowl before you Ralph. You should be ashamed...very ashamed, that your cheapskate ways, and your incessant meddling have wasted the opportunities as well as all the playing and coaching talent that have passed through Buffalo, only to find greener pastures elsewhere.

Too bad...you have the most deserving fans in the game, and you do your best to let them down every year.

You don't deserve to be on the Hall of Fame ballott, much less enshrined in the Hall.

[Novacane]

How is it Ralph's fault we lost 4 in a row.

[The_Philster]

:huh:

[Fat Tony]

The clippers won the super bowl?

[Fat Tony]

Last I looked- Tampa Bay has been a pretty good club this past decade. What makes them the most inept Pro franchise? Ahead of the Clippers, Bengals, Expos?

And Ralph has put his club in 9 AFL/AFC championship games.

He'd have 3-4 rings if Norwood hits his FG, Thurm and Kelly didn't turn the Ball over a zillion times in the last 3-

What has Ralph Wilson done (or not done) to put his teams in position to win?

[Novacane]

Agree with FT...............Ralph has shed that cheapskate tag years ago. The guy has given the $$$ to put the players on the field to try and win. How do you think we got in salary cap hell?


It's not Ralphs fault we had the best team in the NFL and still lost Super Bowl 25.

[kgun12]

Originally posted by Billsology
The worst team in the history or ORGANIZED TEAM SPORTS has now won the Super Bowl before you Ralph. You should be ashamed...very ashamed, that your cheapskate ways, and your incessant meddling have wasted the opportunities as well as all the playing and coaching talent that have passed through Buffalo, only to find greener pastures elsewhere.

Too bad...you have the most deserving fans in the game, and you do your best to let them down every year.

You don't deserve to be on the Hall of Fame ballott, much less enshrined in the Hall.

OMG is this guy for real:huh: We have had a HOF, coach QB, WR, soon to be RB DE another WR, and maybe a ST. Before free agency Ralph and the Bills were one of the high salary teams for about five years. again :huh:

[The_Philster]

How's it Ralph's fault our defense couldn't tackle in SB XXV? :huh:

[Doc]

Get off the drugs Billsology. Without Ralph Wilson you wouldn't HAVE a freakin' professional football team to watch. Think about it, how many pro teams ARE there in incredibly small markets like Buffalo? Unbelievable!

[Doc]

Oh wait, let me guess. You blame Ralph for benching noodle-arm Flutie for the 1999 playoffs, right? Sorry but it was Wade who did that and it was the right move.

[PA Season Ticket Holder]

The Bills were in the Top 5 in bonus money paid out throughout the 90's. I wouldn't say Ralph was cheap shelling out that much money.

John Butler helped increase that figure quite a bit with the shopping spree he went on in the late 90's. It would've been a good idea if they were the right players to give the money too.

[The_Philster]

Originally posted by Doc
Oh wait, let me guess. You blame Ralph for benching noodle-arm Flutie for the 1999 playoffs, right? Sorry but it was Wade who did that and it was the right move.

While it's true that it was Wade who made the move, the timing of it was questionable at best. Flutie had been playing out of his slump before the Indy game.

[Historian]

Originally posted by BledsoeTOreedfor6
Agree with FT...............Ralph has shed that cheapskate tag years ago. The guy has given the $$$ to put the players on the field to try and win. How do you think we got in salary cap hell?


We're not in cap hell anymore, and the team still sucks.

Wilson put together two good teams in the last half a century, and this is a committment to winning??? Gimme a break!

The Buccaneers were a laughingstock because of their former owner, Hugh Culverhouse, (another tightwad!) who could have cared less about winning, or even putting a respectable product on the field. Only when the almighty stepped in, and sent Culverhouse to that big stadium in the sky, did a real owner step in. One who was committed to civic pride, and winning. Lo and behold, the Bucs have been in the top 10% since. The moral of the story is...it starts at the top. You want a winner? You have to pay for one. That includes Coaches. (who arent a part of the salary cap I might add) This is Wilson's worst suit. We could have had Walsh instead of Knox, Vermeil instead of Levy, ANYBODY instead of this idiot Williams, but Ralph knows best, right? According to some of you, we're supposed to get down and suck his kneecaps just because he kept the team here. (With OUR money) Sorry, If perpetual mediocrity is the goal, you can keep it.

There's a reason he gets left off the final HOF ballott every year, and anyone who has followed the game long enough, knows what it is.

[Dozerdog]

Vermiel instead of Levy?

Levy is in the Hall of Fame

Vermiel was burned out in Philly and had ZERO interests in returning to coaching in the 80's and most of the 90's.

Even if Walsh wanted the Job, he's a west coast guy and would have jumped ship to head back at the first opportunity. That's incredible 20-20- hindsight.

Would you want too take an unknown assistant as coach or a guy who just won 5 consecutiive division titles in Knox (a feat unequalled in it's day)

In your first post you call the Bucs the worst franchise in history, in your second you hail them as one of the top 10%.

You are not bitter about anything, are ya?

Ralph is in an exclusive club- not many people have owned a team for 43 straight years- or one team for an entirety. The Mara family, the Rooneys, the Browns (there is a guy you can point venom towards) that's about it.

[LtBillsFan66]

SOS! Same old ax to grind.

[Novacane]

Originally posted by Billsology


We're not in cap hell anymore, and the team still sucks.

Wilson put together two good teams in the last half a century, and this is a committment to winning??? Gimme a break!




We just got out of cap hell this season! TD will be able to sign some stars now and Ralph is not going to stop him. He wants to win too. Try folling the Cardinals or Bengals if you think Ralph is cheap.

YOu're just dead wrong on this one. No one agrees with you. How about putting up some #'s to prove your point that RW is cheap. You can't!

[Historian]

Originally posted by BledsoeTOreedfor6



We just got out of cap hell this season! TD will be able to sign some stars now and Ralph is not going to stop him. He wants to win too. Try folling the Cardinals or Bengals if you think Ralph is cheap.

YOu're just dead wrong on this one. No one agrees with you. How about putting up some #'s to prove your point that RW is cheap. You can't!

The going rate for a GM that runs a contender is 3 mil a year. He insulted Butler, and offered him 1 mil.

Tried to stiff Wade out of his salary. Thats just two off the top of my head.

Just because there are other cheapskates in the league, doesn't make him any less of one.

[LtBillsFan66]

:axgrind:

[TedMock]

He brought in one of the best and most well respected GM's in football. Butler put them in cap hell and this season will be the first year out of cap hell. As a "tightwad" he made the bad mistake of paying 2 qb's $5mil each. Wade wasn't a great head coach by any stretch. He's an excellenct coordinator but a bad head coach who publically through the towel in when they were not even mathematically eliminated. He had to get rid of Wade after that, it wasn't a financial decision.

[The_Philster]

Butler didn't even want to do everything Donahoe does anyway...nor did he even want to talk about making a deal.

[kgun12]

As far as stiffing Wade on his money, I don't think he did. Wade was given the option of firing some coaches and keeping his job or not firing them and losing his job. To me wade quit therefore he was stiffed anything. You are entitled to your opinion, but there isn't any facts to back up your opinion. Sorry BledsoeT is right you are dead wrong.