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  • Meathead
    Insufferable ***** and perpetual crybaby
    • Jul 2002
    • 21349

    QB Competition Step 1 - The Contenders

    Lets list who we think are the real contenders for the third candidate in the Bills QB competition

    I'll start by suggesting Jon Kitna. He's no Carson Palmer but I've been impressed with the guy every time I see him play. I think he'd be an small upgrade over Holcomb because he can scramble and give our rebuilding OL time to gel, while also being ready to lead the team right now in a way JP probably cant, to start the season anyway

    Who else?
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  • The_Philster
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 52180

    #2
    Re: QB Competition Step 1 - The Contenders

    Patrick Ramsey...hasn't been very good for the Skins, but I know I wanted him in 2002 as a Bill...who knows? maybe some time in the league, even with what little he's done, would help him.
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    • Bill Brasky
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      • Jan 2004
      • 66218

      #3
      Re: QB Competition Step 1 - The Contenders

      I wouldn't mind seeing Kitna or McCown from Arizona.

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      • ScottLawrence
        Registered User
        • Jan 2004
        • 1450

        #4
        Re: QB Competition Step 1 - The Contenders

        I was just about to say bring in Josh McCown from Arizona.

        Hes just the guy Marv indicated there looking for to bring in.
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        • DraftBoy
          Administrator
          • Jul 2002
          • 107452

          #5
          Re: QB Competition Step 1 - The Contenders

          All so far mentioned are good picks, tho Id like to see us also bring in a development project like Bruce Eugene from Grambling in the draft.
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          • gonzo1105
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 776

            #6
            Re: QB Competition Step 1 - The Contenders

            Craig Nall Baby!

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            • Billsrock4life
              Registered User
              • Nov 2005
              • 1088

              #7
              Re: QB Competition Step 1 - The Contenders

              Originally posted by jfreeman
              I wouldn't mind seeing Kitna or McCown from Arizona.
              agreed i like Kitna and McCown has shown flashes of talent

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              • Spiderweb
                ....formerly OhBF
                • Sep 2003
                • 787

                #8
                Re: QB Competition Step 1 - The Contenders

                Originally posted by ScottLawrence
                I was just about to say bring in Josh McCown from Arizona.

                Hes just the guy Marv indicated there looking for to bring in.
                He seems to have the best upside of the lot. Kitna is a proven second rate QB. Holcomb is as good as he is, therefore no to Kitna (emphatically).
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                • Meathead
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 21349

                  #9
                  Re: QB Competition Step 1 - The Contenders

                  like i said the reason i like kitna is hes a pretty good scrambler, something holcomb isnt. while i like holcomb as an adequate starter on a team with a line that can protect him, im not confident the bills will be able to make enough improvement in one season to keep holcomb from getting his brains smashed in. kitna would give the bills some reliability while they try to get the new line to gel

                  i havent seen mcnown more than one game i think so im not sure but he looks like he can move around pretty well too. any other perspectives on him in that regard?
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                  • Spiderweb
                    ....formerly OhBF
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 787

                    #10
                    Re: QB Competition Step 1 - The Contenders

                    Originally posted by Meathead
                    like i said the reason i like kitna is hes a pretty good scrambler, something holcomb isnt. while i like holcomb as an adequate starter on a team with a line that can protect him, im not confident the bills will be able to make enough improvement in one season to keep holcomb from getting his brains smashed in. kitna would give the bills some reliability while they try to get the new line to gel

                    i havent seen mcnown more than one game i think so im not sure but he looks like he can move around pretty well too. any other perspectives on him in that regard?
                    Here's a link to some Josh McCown stats....

                    Complete career NFL stats for Philadelphia Eagles Quarterback Josh McCown on ESPN. Includes scoring, rushing, defensive and receiving stats.
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                    • YardRat
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                      • Dec 2004
                      • 86169

                      #11
                      Re: QB Competition Step 1 - The Contenders

                      Tory Woodbury, or whoever we draft on day two this April.
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                      • Dozerdog
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                        • Jul 2002
                        • 42587

                        #12
                        Re: QB Competition Step 1 - The Contenders

                        That Gradowski kid from Toledo in the 5th sounds like a Van pelt type- someone who could be a dependable backup for 5-6 seasons or more

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                        • tonyc37
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                          • Jan 2006
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                          #13
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                          if you watch the combone at all the most impressive qb that would be there on day two was inge martin from furman.transfered form florida and was at or near the top of all the drills at the combine.4.6 in the forty,highets arm velocity in his group and made all the throws.he is 6-4 and 225lbs. with a big arm.check him out

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                          • LifetimeBillsFan
                            All-Pro Zoner
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 4946

                            #14
                            Re: QB Competition Step 1 - The Contenders

                            How about Brett Elliot from Linfield as a very late round pick or UFA as a developmental prospect? Didn't get invited to The Combine but has stunning numbers--was the starter at Utah before he broke his wrist and Alex Smith took over.

                            Elliott measured 6-foot-2 7/8 and 203 pounds before the start of the 2005 season, weighs 201 now. Was 23-1 as the starter for D-3 Linfield where he threw for 8,614 yards and 110 touchdown passes, 49 in 2005, the last two seasons. Elliott's career completion rate of 68.1 percent is the NCAA record for all divisions. He threw for 450-plus yards on six occasions and 528 yards in his career finale. He had four or more touchdown passes 15 times and authored a pair of seven-touchdown pass outings. He also threw the winning TD pass in the Hula Bowl.

                            Scouts seem to disagree on his arm-strength from "high-average" to sufficient. But its tough to overlook a guy who threw 61 TD passes in a season--even if you only have him in for a workout.

                            Most of the above info comes from this article:
                            QB Brett Elliott put up mind-boggling numbers at Linfield College, but didn't receive an invite for the scouting combine in Indy.
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                            • THATHURMANATOR
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 69112

                              #15
                              Re: QB Competition Step 1 - The Contenders

                              Originally posted by OhBF
                              He seems to have the best upside of the lot. Kitna is a proven second rate QB. Holcomb is as good as he is, therefore no to Kitna (emphatically).
                              Not that I am huge on bringing him in but Kitna was an MVP candidate the Season before they gave the rains to Palmer. I don't remember Holcomb ever coming close to that.

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