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  • Patrick76777
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 17297

    If they jack the cap up to over 100 mil!

    Then why not just keep Moulds. Someone mentioned a rumor earlier that would put us some 25 million under the cap. Currently! With 32 teams competing for Free Agents, you’d never be able to spend 25 mil. Sure it would jack up salaries, but you’d why wouldn’t you just keep Eric at 10Mil.

    So maybe they’re waiting to see how much room they’ll have after the CBA goes thru. Then they’ll see if they can afford to keep him at his current number.

    Just a thought! I know that this place is ultra-confrontational so go ahead and tell me how wrong I am.
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  • Devin
    The Octagon
    • Apr 2003
    • 23878

    #2
    Re: If they jack the cap up to over 100 mil!

    I agree honestly.
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    • ICE74129
      Legendary Zoner
      • Feb 2005
      • 10796

      #3
      Re: If they jack the cap up to over 100 mil!

      Asked to describe the nature of Monday's conversation, Henderson said: "We're way off, just way off. We're not even close. To us, it doesn't sound like they want to keep Eric. I was a little shocked by what they had to say."

      Let me say this again...THEY DO NOT WANT MOULDS. They offered up an insulting paycut just so they could say they talked to his agents. 100 mill or 1 Billion in cap room, it doesn't matter.

      he is NOT a marv levy type guy. Time to let it go and move on.

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      • mysticsoto
        Too sober for this...
        • Apr 2004
        • 31439

        #4
        Re: If they jack the cap up to over 100 mil!

        Originally posted by ICE74129
        Asked to describe the nature of Monday's conversation, Henderson said: "We're way off, just way off. We're not even close. To us, it doesn't sound like they want to keep Eric. I was a little shocked by what they had to say."

        Let me say this again...THEY DO NOT WANT MOULDS. They offered up an insulting paycut just so they could say they talked to his agents. 100 mill or 1 Billion in cap room, it doesn't matter.

        he is NOT a marv levy type guy. Time to let it go and move on.
        If that were true, they would have cut him as quickly as they cut Williams...

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        • ICE74129
          Legendary Zoner
          • Feb 2005
          • 10796

          #5
          Re: If they jack the cap up to over 100 mil!

          Originally posted by mysticsoto
          If that were true, they would have cut him as quickly as they cut Williams...
          And draw the wrath of fans without even 'trying'? LMAO you need to learn media relations.

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          • The_Philster
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 52180

            #6
            Re: If they jack the cap up to over 100 mil!

            Marv Levy and John Butler drafted Eric...so I don't buy this
            NOT a marv levy type guy

            If there's a way to keep him and do something with the remaining years on his deal..an extension spreading things out, I'd be all for it.
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            • ICE74129
              Legendary Zoner
              • Feb 2005
              • 10796

              #7
              Re: If they jack the cap up to over 100 mil!

              Originally posted by The_Philster
              Marv Levy and John Butler drafted Eric...so I don't buy this
              If there's a way to keep him and do something with the remaining years on his deal..an extension spreading things out, I'd be all for it.
              Last I checked, what you would go for isn't important to OBD. The punk is a woman beating POS. I doubt Moulds would be here right now had marv stayed another couple years.

              He is not a Marv Levy type player. Marv types don't refuse to go back in games, listen to the Ipod and ignore the coaching staff at 1/2 time, then get suspended. For a guy 32 years old, he showed a ton of immaturity this year. Not a marv type guy

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              • THATHURMANATOR
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 69112

                #8
                Re: If they jack the cap up to over 100 mil!

                Bottom line is that he is not worth 10 mil a year. He is 32 years old and on the bottom side of his career. Keep him for one more year maybe but don't restructure.

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                • Bufftp
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 18062

                  #9
                  Re: If they jack the cap up to over 100 mil!

                  Any increase in the cap really won't yield any extra cap money. The salaries of the players will also escalate in proportion to the cap increase, effectively eating up any additional dollars originally gained by a cap increase. This means of available cap dollars versus players demands Moulds would represent the same proportion of cap space versus other players.
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                  • Italian Stallion
                    Knows More Than You
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 1136

                    #10
                    Re: If they jack the cap up to over 100 mil!

                    Originally posted by Patrick76777
                    Then why not just keep Moulds. Someone mentioned a rumor earlier that would put us some 25 million under the cap. Currently! With 32 teams competing for Free Agents, you’d never be able to spend 25 mil. Sure it would jack up salaries, but you’d why wouldn’t you just keep Eric at 10Mil.

                    So maybe they’re waiting to see how much room they’ll have after the CBA goes thru. Then they’ll see if they can afford to keep him at his current number.

                    Just a thought! I know that this place is ultra-confrontational so go ahead and tell me how wrong I am.
                    Cause...he's not worth what he's being paid, not even a little. Dude is getting slower, drops passes and fumbles like never before, and doesn't run routes as crisp and fluid as he used to.

                    If he were being paid something like 6 or 7 mil this season, which I think would still be too much, then I'd say ok whatever, just let him play it out. But a 10 mil salary cap figure is laughable.

                    Any other reciever in the league with the CURRENT capabilities and skill level of EM, I can guarentee, isn't being paid as much. Even a guy like Rod Smith, who is similiar in age to EM, made the Pro Bowl this year, and makes LESS than Moulds

                    Point is, regardless of how much the cap goes up, just like in the real business world, if a guy isn't worth what he's being paid, you cut him loose. Simply put, Eric Moulds isn't worth 10 mil, even if the Bills suddenly have 30 mil in cap room.
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                    • kgun12
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 11319

                      #11
                      Re: If they jack the cap up to over 100 mil!

                      Originally posted by THATHURMANATOR
                      Bottom line is that he is not worth 10 mil a year. He is 32 years old and on the bottom side of his career. Keep him for one more year maybe but don't restructure.
                      Even if and it's a big if he were worth $10 mil a year I think there is a cut off date for salaries to count against the team for this year verus next year along with bonus money and I think it is March 2nd. I know I'm on the right tract, but not sure if facts are all correct. So I think they have to cut him now verus waiting to see what the new cap # is.
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                      • mysticsoto
                        Too sober for this...
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 31439

                        #12
                        Re: If they jack the cap up to over 100 mil!

                        Originally posted by ICE74129
                        And draw the wrath of fans without even 'trying'? LMAO you need to learn media relations.
                        You're not going to draw the wrath of any fan if you let it be known that he wouldn't take a pay cut...from $10 Mil.

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                        • casdhf
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 17542

                          #13
                          Re: If they jack the cap up to over 100 mil!

                          whether or not we keep moulds, he counts 5 mill against the cap anyways. so is he worth 5 mill a season? Its all on how ya shift the numbers.
                          Originally posted by BillsZone Mod
                          cas,

                          I'm just letting you know that you have been given 2 points for telling Wys AKA Mark to kill himself.

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                          • ICE74129
                            Legendary Zoner
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 10796

                            #14
                            Re: If they jack the cap up to over 100 mil!

                            Originally posted by mysticsoto
                            You're not going to draw the wrath of any fan if you let it be known that he wouldn't take a pay cut...from $10 Mil.
                            Didn't that just come out? But unless you talk to his agent (which they didnt' even bother with on Mike Williams) you can't get that info.

                            Hense why they didn't cut him before talking to his agents. I see him gone tomorrow, maybe thursday at the latest. Today is the last day of the combine and they will be ready to work on FA.

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                            • ICE74129
                              Legendary Zoner
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 10796

                              #15
                              Re: If they jack the cap up to over 100 mil!

                              Originally posted by casdhf
                              whether or not we keep moulds, he counts 5 mill against the cap anyways. so is he worth 5 mill a season? Its all on how ya shift the numbers.
                              Not really. His CAP NUMBER is 11 million. If you take the 30% rule of his base pay (a little over 1.83 mill) that is still more than 5 mill. Then he has a 1 mill roster bonus he won't part with, plus 100K in workout bonuses etc.

                              It gives more room to cut him. Now next year we gain a TON of new room thanks to him and fat mike being off of the books.

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