Football and race: a child's question.

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  • Jeff1220
    H to the 12:20
    • Jul 2002
    • 6136

    Football and race: a child's question.

    My 7 year old daughter was sitting here with me as I perused espn.com's list of the top 50 free agents. She wanted to see a guy that had Bills next to his name so I found Sam Adams and explained to her the difference between a FA and a released player. As I scrolled through the names and pictures, she says something like, "Dad, why are there so many black guys in football?" I couldn't really think of any answer for it so I just told her "I don't know. It's just that way because it is." or something like that. There is certainly a much higher percentage of black players in the NFL and most sports leagues than in the general population. How would you respond to this query from the innocent mind of a 7 year old?
  • Tatonka
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 21289

    #2
    Re: Football and race: a child's question.

    black players are apparently better at football...
    "All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity." ~ Gordie Howe

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    • L.A. Playa
      Registered User
      • Aug 2003
      • 19295

      #3
      Re: Football and race: a child's question.

      ask this guy


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      • chernobylwraiths
        Registered User
        • Jan 2003
        • 41838

        #4
        Re: Football and race: a child's question.

        Tell her she probably just doesn't realize that there are a lot of different people in sports and in the world. It's just that she doesn't get exposed to too many different people where you live. (I assume that she doesn't see a lot of black people in her life except on TV.

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        • tat2dmike77
          Let the planet get warmer. We'll grow oranges in Alaska!
          • Dec 2005
          • 9285

          #5
          Re: Football and race: a child's question.

          Originally posted by L.A. Playa
          ask this guy


          i would like to hear him explain that to

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          • ajsdx
            Registered User
            • Aug 2003
            • 1436

            #6
            Re: Football and race: a child's question.

            you could tell her the truth, although i'm not sure she'd understand. i don't think i would have understood genetics and fast twitch muscle fibers at that age.

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            • Meathead
              Insufferable ***** and perpetual crybaby
              • Jul 2002
              • 21349

              #7
              Re: Football and race: a child's question.

              tell her that colored people build muscles either chasing monkeys throught the jungle with spears or away from cops with a couple of keys in their pocket

              that should make for an interesting parent teacher conference
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              • Meathead
                Insufferable ***** and perpetual crybaby
                • Jul 2002
                • 21349

                #8
                Re: Football and race: a child's question.

                all kidding aside, i would tell her the truth

                it is a fact that on average they are physically superior due to their ancestors living in harsh environments as well as the breeding done by slave owners here in this country

                of course you need to put it much more gentle than that but in my experience kids have a lot more capacity to understand things that we give them credit for

                i'd also include that some people dont like talking about that stuff so she should be very careful when the subject comes up but i'll bet she could handle some version of that
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                • Stewie
                  Sarah Palin for President... of my pants!
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 11567

                  #9
                  Re: Football and race: a child's question.

                  Tell her it's about the white man keeping the black man down, then do Chris Rock's bit about rich vs. wealthy. It kills everytime.
                  Originally posted by Topdog
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                  • MikeInRoch
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 10446

                    #10
                    Re: Football and race: a child's question.

                    Originally posted by Meathead
                    it is a fact that on average they are physically superior due to their ancestors living in harsh environments as well as the breeding done by slave owners here in this country
                    And to think - Jimmy was fired because of saying basically this.
                    "'Clean up your room.', 'Stand up straight.', 'Pick up your feet.', 'Take it like a man.', 'Be nice to your sister.', 'Don't mix beer and wine, ever.'. Oh yeah, 'Don't drive on the railroad track.'"

                    "Eh, Phil. That's one I happen to agree with."

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                    • casdhf
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 17542

                      #11
                      Re: Football and race: a child's question.

                      All the white people play hockey, golf and race cars.
                      Originally posted by BillsZone Mod
                      cas,

                      I'm just letting you know that you have been given 2 points for telling Wys AKA Mark to kill himself.

                      BillsZone Mod

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                      • Meathead
                        Insufferable ***** and perpetual crybaby
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 21349

                        #12
                        Re: Football and race: a child's question.

                        that was a different era. if you recall, that was a time when if a black person got in trouble they simply uttered the magic r word and every white person dropped the soap and walked away

                        my favorite story on that is when i was living in dc and a famous black columnist there named carl rowan was a huge promoter of harsh sentences for illegal guns. one night a few drunk white kids took a midnight dip in his pool and he came out with an illegal unregistered gun and shot one of them in the hand or something. when the heat started getting too intense he just uttered the magic word and incredibly everything stopped. he was obviously profoundly hypocritical yet he used the magic get out of jail free card and got off scott free

                        i recall because it sort of represented a watershed moment of sorts for both blacks and whites. everyone could clearly see this wasnt right and intrinsically knew that it needed to change, and so it started to. jimmy the greek is also a great example because what he was saying was true and everyone knows that now. he was clearly not a racist man and yet he was vilified for something that made people uncomfortable with acknowledging. too bad for him he never rehabilitated his image. if you remember, howard cosell also got in trouble for describing that giants rb (what was his name again?) “a little monkey” because he was so quick and nimble. fortunate for howard his work with ali made it impossible to pin the race label on him and he survived, jimmy wasnt so lucky

                        as a final example consider the democratic political activist (dont remember his name) who used the word “ni@@ardly” in a press conference one time back in that era. note that the word has absolutely nothing to do with race, it is mere coincidence that it contains the same letters as the offensive epithet. this gentleman was very active in promoting civil liberties, especially for minorities. any research into the roots of that word shows it is reflective of a person with a wide vocabulary, not racial prejudice. and yet the outcry was so fierce that he was forced to resign - even when we all learned the proper source and meaning of the word. crazy

                        racism is a terrible thing but we make it worse if we dont acknowledge the truth and find problems where there arent any. thank god it appears weve turned that important corner. i have to say, however, that im quite concerned about the black community, because racism there has grown to the point where its nearly as bad as whites were when i was growing up, at least as i see it here in buffalo

                        but thats a topic for another day
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                        • DaBillzAhDaShiznit
                          Registered User
                          • May 2004
                          • 1268

                          #13
                          Re: Football and race: a child's question.

                          Well, I don't think it has been scientifically proven that there is some insurmountable difference between one race and another as far as physical prowess. African american males do, on average acheive greater average heights, and develop more lean muscle mass at a younger age. For that reason, they are more likely to be encouraged to play sports at a young age, take an interest in those things, and therefore establish a base of talent and skill which
                          is invaluable in their development and training.

                          That being said....I think it says something about what is being tought to a seven year old if at that age they already are showing a prejudice (don't mistake that with anything like racism---if you don't know what prejudice means, look it up) toward other ethnic groups than their own.

                          We should all be showing our kids (not just telling them) that a person's skin tone has absolutely no bearing on who they are, or what they will become.
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                          --Leo Durocher

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                          • MikeInRoch
                            Registered User
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 10446

                            #14
                            Re: Football and race: a child's question.

                            Originally posted by DaBillzAhDaShiznit
                            That being said....I think it says something about what is being tought to a seven year old if at that age they already are showing a prejudice (don't mistake that with anything like racism---if you don't know what prejudice means, look it up) toward other ethnic groups than their own.
                            Huh? I didn't see anything prejudice in what the seven year old said. They made an observation based on factual evidence, and simply wondered why that was the case. Having a prejudice involves making some judgement, which doesn't seem to be the case here.
                            "'Clean up your room.', 'Stand up straight.', 'Pick up your feet.', 'Take it like a man.', 'Be nice to your sister.', 'Don't mix beer and wine, ever.'. Oh yeah, 'Don't drive on the railroad track.'"

                            "Eh, Phil. That's one I happen to agree with."

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                            • MikeInRoch
                              Registered User
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 10446

                              #15
                              Re: Football and race: a child's question.

                              Originally posted by Meathead
                              that was a different era. if you recall, that was a time when if a black person got in trouble they simply uttered the magic r word and every white person dropped the soap and walked away
                              As far as I'm concerned, this is still the case. Actually, let me clarify that. Not everyone who gets in trouble does that, but if they do, then the reaction is still the same.
                              "'Clean up your room.', 'Stand up straight.', 'Pick up your feet.', 'Take it like a man.', 'Be nice to your sister.', 'Don't mix beer and wine, ever.'. Oh yeah, 'Don't drive on the railroad track.'"

                              "Eh, Phil. That's one I happen to agree with."

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