when moulds is still on roster at MIDNIGHT

[djjimkelly]

will foolish crap like pat morans front page article stop including moulds on a different team. or will the million get rid of moulds threads stop?

im just curious u guys act like 80+ grabs a year grow on trees.

and is he worth 5.5 mil this season that is only question people should EVER be questioning.

BUT PAST MIDNIGHT LET THIS CRAP STOP!!!!!!!!!!

[tat2dmike77]

Re: when moulds is still on roster at MIDNIGHT

If he is here for 5.5 mill i have no problem with that.

But if he still wants his full 10 mill then i say he should go. I like EM i do but 10 mill is a little outragous.

I'm just concerned with how he will act if JP is indeed the starter will his attitude change toward JP or will it be a love hate thing.

The guy can still catch and make plays but he needs to have a decent relationship with his QB. I'm not saying they have to go out and have lunches and go window shopping together but they should atleast get along.

Who knows maybe with the new staff in place these questions have already been answered?

We will see in a few hours if he is still a bill or not.

[patmoran2006]

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Your right.. How foolishly crappy of me to forecast Ralph Wilson not paying a Number one A (or is it B in 2006) receiver a cap figure of $10.8 million.

HOw "foolish" of me to think that the money saved would be better off spent on a stud left tackle or guard.. I mean why would we want to do anything "foolish" and crappy like protect JP Losman.

How "Foolishly crappy" of me to think we drafted Lee Evans 13th overall in 2004 to become the go-to guy three years later. Forget him though he's "clearly" only a number two.. SO lets pay a 32-year old, 10 year veteran who chucked his young QB under the bus in favor of Holcomb on a 5-11 team for personal stats!

but hey, as long as you got plenty of weapons to throw too, I guess it doesnt matter who's protecting the QB.. Because Buffalo has a recent history of success offensively, yes?

[Night Train]

Re: when moulds is still on roster at MIDNIGHT

Is there a deadline to cut him ? Does a roster bonus kick in sometime in March ?

Clump knows, I'm betting.

[Mahdi]

Re: when moulds is still on roster at MIDNIGHT

The Bills can hold on to him past midnight. Moulds will be cut when they need more cap room to sign more FAs or when they sign a cheaper replacement. Fairchild Im sure has told them that they either need to keep Moulds or find someone who can contribute similarly, but for less than 10.8 mil.

[ICE74129]

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From what I have heard they are trying to trade him. If not look for a June 1st cut to spread that cap hit over two years. But who knows.

I do know Moulds isn't worth the money he is making. He isn't worth the 7 mill we have to pay him this year.

[X-Era]

Re: when moulds is still on roster at MIDNIGHT

will foolish crap like pat morans front page article stop including moulds on a different team. or will the million get rid of moulds threads stop?

im just curious u guys act like 80+ grabs a year grow on trees.

and is he worth 5.5 mil this season that is only question people should EVER be questioning.

BUT PAST MIDNIGHT LET THIS CRAP STOP!!!!!!!!!!

1) Pat Moran has more football knowledge in his pinky toe than most of us fans including me.

2) Moulds is no longer even our #1 WR, much less a pro-bowler

3) Moulds attitude went into the dumper except for his final game where he tried to mend the mess he created by acting like a great guy. I dont care what reasons there were, Sanders ALWAYS played for a crappy team and STILL is one of the best ever with little if any complaining. Moulds took about 20 steps back from being Jerry Rice and about 20 steps TOWARD being TO. We dont need attitudes on a 5 and 11 team, period.

4) Even if the cap was 450 mil, Moulds isnt worth his 10+ mil cap figure this year. Reports say that he basically wants ALL of it, will NOT take a pay cut, and is only willing to change salary to bonus money in the form of restructuring. That dont JIVE, the guy isnt worth that much money anymore.

Now, Moulds needs to take a pay cut or be cut. I have said for 6 months now that Moulds will be his own ticket out. Moulds wont take the pay cut, restructured or not, and the Bills should then cut him. He isnt worth the money plain and simple.

[TacklingDummy]

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HOw "foolish" of me to think that the money saved would be better off spent on a stud left tackle or guard.. I mean why would we want to do anything "foolish" and crappy like protect JP Losman.

And what stud LT or G is out there that the Bills could get? Until the Bills need the money that cutting Moulds would save them. Moulds stays.

Maybe Losman was a bigger problem then the line. I mean after all the moblie Losman did get sacked 27 times behind that line while cement feet Holcomb only got sacked 17 times. And when Losman played, Willis averaged 30 yards less yards a game on the ground. And I won't even say how many less yards our passing game had.

[ICE74129]

Re: when moulds is still on roster at MIDNIGHT

And what stud LT or G is out there that the Bills could get? Until the Bills need the money that cutting Moulds would save them. Moulds stays.

Maybe Losman was a bigger problem then the line. I mean after all the moblie Losman did get sacked 26 times behind that line while cement feet Holcomb only got sacked 14 times. And when Losman played, Willis averaged 30 yards less yards a game on the ground. And I won't even say how many less yards our passing game had.

And for all of that Holcomb still went 3-4 and single handedly lost the Jets game. Yeah he was a vast improvement...

[TacklingDummy]

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And for all of that Holcomb still went 3-4 and single handedly lost the Jets game. Yeah he was a vast improvement...

Actually the Bills had the Jets game won until the special teams blew it.

[ICE74129]

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Actually the Bills had the Jets game won until the special teams blew it.

Holcomb 3-4 JP 2-7. Thats reality. Your boy lost the Jets game with his 5 turnovers.

[TacklingDummy]

Re: when moulds is still on roster at MIDNIGHT

MVP: Quarterback Kelly Holcomb. I'm not an advocate of Holcomb being the Bills' starting quarterback in the future but it's hard to ignore what he did this past season. In the eight games he started, the Bills went 4-4. It doesn't sound like much but it's a lot better than Losman's record of 1-7. Holcomb won the veterans over as he completed a solid 67.4 percent of his passes for 10 touchdowns, 8 interceptions, and an above average QB rating of 85.6.

[ICE74129]

Re: when moulds is still on roster at MIDNIGHT

MVP: Quarterback Kelly Holcomb. I'm not an advocate of Holcomb being the Bills' starting quarterback in the future but it's hard to ignore what he did this past season. In the eight games he started, the Bills went 4-4. It doesn't sound like much but it's a lot better than Losman's record of 1-7. Holcomb won the veterans over as he completed a solid 67.4 percent of his passes for 10 touchdowns, 8 interceptions, and an above average QB rating of 85.6.

3-4, 2-7.

[mybills]

Re: when moulds is still on roster at MIDNIGHT

Your right.. How foolishly crappy of me to forecast Ralph Wilson not paying a Number one A (or is it B in 2006) receiver a cap figure of $10.8 million.

HOw "foolish" of me to think that the money saved would be better off spent on a stud left tackle or guard.. I mean why would we want to do anything "foolish" and crappy like protect JP Losman.

How "Foolishly crappy" of me to think we drafted Lee Evans 13th overall in 2004 to become the go-to guy three years later. Forget him though he's "clearly" only a number two.. SO lets pay a 32-year old, 10 year veteran who chucked his young QB under the bus in favor of Holcomb on a 5-11 team for personal stats!

but hey, as long as you got plenty of weapons to throw too, I guess it doesnt matter who's protecting the QB.. Because Buffalo has a recent history of success offensively, yes?

I'm pretty sure the only point he was trying to make, was this...u guys act like 80+ grabs a year grow on trees. I tend to agree with him, that every thread about Moulds has someone bashing his talent.

[ArcticWildMan]

Re: when moulds is still on roster at MIDNIGHT

will foolish crap like pat morans front page article stop including moulds on a different team. or will the million get rid of moulds threads stop?

im just curious u guys act like 80+ grabs a year grow on trees.

and is he worth 5.5 mil this season that is only question people should EVER be questioning.

BUT PAST MIDNIGHT LET THIS CRAP STOP!!!!!!!!!!

Care to enlighten us all with your own front page article then?