What will it take for the Bills to get top FA's?

[ICE74129]

First and formost Signing bonuses. That is how it's done. Everyone is freaking (including me) about how washington can do it with being so far over. Signing bonuses. This is where Ralph just doesn't have it. it is 1/2 he doesn't have the personal resources and 1/2 he is unwilling to pony up as much as other teams.

Now that aside, we need to show players Buffalo is a place where top FA's want to go. how do we do that? Sign some solid FA's, Draft well, play some good football. This is the other reason I say this is a two offseason retool.

Dick Jauron will be a huge factor in this. How he coaches, what the current players tell other players will be HUGE toward signing top FA's next year. Showing improvment on the field, running good systems will play a large role as well.

If marv can solidify DT and some of the Ol. Trade moulds, find his replacement then this sets the foundation for what I am talking about. There is only so much we can do in our current situation. Marv's hands are tied until we show some progress and I really think we can.

I know it is hard, but lets give the org a clean slate under marv. I feel he understands how to build this right, lets give him a chance.

[vicmantak]

Re: What will it take for the Bills to get top FA's?

After Bledsoe, Villarrial, Milloy and probably Sam Adams fakes... it looks like it will take at least the Ralph Wilson era...

[ICE74129]

Re: What will it take for the Bills to get top FA's?

After Bledsoe, Villarrial, Milloy and probably Sam Adams fakes... it looks like it will take at least the Ralph Wilson era...

LOL

[YardRat]

Re: What will it take for the Bills to get top FA's?

Ralph tried to level out the playing field for the lower revenue teams with this last CBA...and none of the other dumb-ass owners would listen.

[ICE74129]

Re: What will it take for the Bills to get top FA's?

Ralph tried to level out the playing field for the lower revenue teams with this last CBA...and none of the other dumb-ass owners would listen.

CBA doesnt' matter. Signing bonuses matter. Snider pays these out of HIS pocket, so does jones. If ralph sells stadium naming rights for 10 mill per there is one SB right there.

[Dicknoze69]

Re: What will it take for the Bills to get top FA's?

CBA doesnt' matter. Signing bonuses matter. Snider pays these out of HIS pocket, so does jones. If ralph sells stadium naming rights for 10 mill per there is one SB right there.

The signing bonus is exactly why Ralph wanted more revenue sharing. Low revenue teams can't afford to pump out great sums of money at once in order to sign a player, but a team like Washington can.

If Ralph has less money from revenue sharing, it directly affects how much of a signing bonus we can give out.

[YardRat]

Re: What will it take for the Bills to get top FA's?

The signing bonus is exactly why Ralph wanted more revenue sharing. Low revenue teams can't afford to pump out great sums of money at once in order to sign a player, but a team like Washington can.

If Ralph has less money from revenue sharing, it directly affects how much of a signing bonus we can give out.

Thank You

[ICE74129]

Re: What will it take for the Bills to get top FA's?

The signing bonus is exactly why Ralph wanted more revenue sharing. Low revenue teams can't afford to pump out great sums of money at once in order to sign a player, but a team like Washington can.

If Ralph has less money from revenue sharing, it directly affects how much of a signing bonus we can give out.

Then Ralph needs to find other ways doesn't he? That is REALITY. That or a new owner with deeper pockets

[YardRat]

Re: What will it take for the Bills to get top FA's?

Then Ralph needs to find other ways doesn't he? That is REALITY. That or a new owner with deeper pockets

The NFL didn't become what it is today by bringing in new ownership with deeper pockets. It became the greatest professional team sport because of revenue sharing, and Ralph knows it because he helped build it.

The Dan Snyders, Jerry Jones, and Bob Krafts of the league are benefitting from the foresight, intelligence, and business acumen of men like Ralph Wilson, and the greedy bastards will eventually be the downfall of the league.

Back in the 60's, when the Oakland franchise was going bankrupt who bailed them out? Ralph Wilson, with cash out of his own pocket. Why? Because it benefitted the league, not just the Bills. Can you see one of these contemporary team owners doing the same? No way.

Snyder and Jones can't carry Wilson's smelly jockstrap when it comes to knowledge of professional football, or passion for the game or the league.

Greedy, self-serving, coattail riding, selfish son-of-a-*****es is all they are, and all they'll ever be. Bastards.

[Ebenezer]

Re: What will it take for the Bills to get top FA's?

CBA doesnt' matter. Signing bonuses matter. Snider pays these out of HIS pocket, so does jones. If ralph sells stadium naming rights for 10 mill per there is one SB right there.

$10 mil per year?? in Buffalo?? you're high...who is going to pay that???

[Ebenezer]

Re: What will it take for the Bills to get top FA's?

Then Ralph needs to find other ways doesn't he? That is REALITY. That or a new owner with deeper pockets

let them spend their new found money this year...the cap will catch up to them.

[ICE74129]

Re: What will it take for the Bills to get top FA's?

The NFL didn't become what it is today by bringing in new ownership with deeper pockets. It became the greatest professional team sport because of revenue sharing, and Ralph knows it because he helped build it.

The Dan Snyders, Jerry Jones, and Bob Krafts of the league are benefitting from the foresight, intelligence, and business acumen of men like Ralph Wilson, and the greedy bastards will eventually be the downfall of the league.

Back in the 60's, when the Oakland franchise was going bankrupt who bailed them out? Ralph Wilson, with cash out of his own pocket. Why? Because it benefitted the league, not just the Bills. Can you see one of these contemporary team owners doing the same? No way.

Snyder and Jones can't carry Wilson's smelly jockstrap when it comes to knowledge of professional football, or passion for the game or the league.

Greedy, self-serving, coattail riding, selfish son-of-a-*****es is all they are, and all they'll ever be. Bastards.

Thats all well and good. Facts are RW now has to find new ways to get money or we dont' compete.

[vicmantak]

Re: What will it take for the Bills to get top FA's?

If Mr. Ralph Wilson is sacrifying the big market only to satisfy fans in Buffalo, it could be a costly mistake. IMHO he should find a way to achieve both issues at the same time to not overexpose the possibility to finish this great organization.

Canada and Mexico are arguably two possibilities to achieve it. They are the big markets the NFL deeply want and both would be a solid chance to geometrically increase Bills fans wideworld.

The only problem I see as an overseas fan is: Do Bills fans would digest that it will be strictly necessary to sacrify two of the eight local games?

[Saratoga Slim]

Re: What will it take for the Bills to get top FA's?

No, we won't sacrifice two home games to win fans abroad. I don't want signing bonus money THAT bad.

[Dicknoze69]

Re: What will it take for the Bills to get top FA's?

The NFL didn't become what it is today by bringing in new ownership with deeper pockets. It became the greatest professional team sport because of revenue sharing, and Ralph knows it because he helped build it.

The Dan Snyders, Jerry Jones, and Bob Krafts of the league are benefitting from the foresight, intelligence, and business acumen of men like Ralph Wilson, and the greedy bastards will eventually be the downfall of the league.

Back in the 60's, when the Oakland franchise was going bankrupt who bailed them out? Ralph Wilson, with cash out of his own pocket. Why? Because it benefitted the league, not just the Bills. Can you see one of these contemporary team owners doing the same? No way.

Snyder and Jones can't carry Wilson's smelly jockstrap when it comes to knowledge of professional football, or passion for the game or the league.

Greedy, self-serving, coattail riding, selfish son-of-a-*****es is all they are, and all they'll ever be. Bastards.

I agree with you. The problem is that these new-age owners have a huge amount of debt, either from new stadiums (NE), buying the franchise (Wash), or expansion fees (Hou). It takes a lot of foresight and unselfishness to forfeit some of your revenue when you have a lot of debt, and you feel that the low-revenue teams aren't doing all they can to generate money.

I know the richer teams weren't happy with Buffalo and Cincy because they feel they could get money from naming rights to the stadium.

It's not an easy situation, but it sure couldn't hurt if the Bills FO, not just Ralph, found ways to generate more revenue. I'm sure they realize this problem as well.