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gr8slayer
03-17-2006, 10:04 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2372555

gr8slayer
03-17-2006, 10:05 PM
Looks like somebody wants to win.

Devin
03-17-2006, 10:07 PM
oh well. Another one bites the dust lol.

gr8slayer
03-17-2006, 10:11 PM
oh well. Another one bites the dust lol.
Im starting to get used to it.

L.A. Playa
03-17-2006, 10:15 PM
wasnt Fabini the LT last year for the Jets that got like 3 QB's almost killed ????

gr8slayer
03-17-2006, 10:19 PM
wasnt Fabini the LT last year for the Jets that got like 3 QB's almost killed ????
I think he was injured most of the year.

L.A. Playa
03-17-2006, 10:21 PM
ok just to me not a huge loss

L.A. Playa
03-17-2006, 10:22 PM
not a big loss


<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" bgColor=#999999 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=text16B align=middle colSpan=3>69, Jason Fabini, T, New York Jets</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=text11 width="26%"> Height: 6-7</TD><TD class=text11 width="40%"> Weight: 304</TD><TD class=text11 width="34%"> Experience: 8 years</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=text11 width="26%"> Born: 8/25/1974</TD><TD class=text11 width="40%"> Birthplace: Fort Wayne, IN</TD><TD class=text11 width="34%"> College: Cincinnati</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><LINK href="/stats/nflinfo/nfl_stylesheet.css" rel=stylesheet>


<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" bgColor=#cccccc border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#999999><TD class=text11B vAlign=top align=middle colSpan=10>Career Offensive Line Stats</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=text11B vAlign=bottom align=left width="9%">Year</TD><TD class=text11B vAlign=bottom align=left width="9%">Team</TD><TD class=text11B vAlign=bottom width="9%">G</TD><TD class=text11B vAlign=bottom width="9%">GS</TD><TD class=text11B vAlign=bottom width="9%">Pen</TD><TD class=text11B vAlign=bottom width="9%">Yds</TD><TD class=text11B vAlign=bottom width="10%">False Start</TD><TD class=text11B vAlign=bottom width="9%">Holding</TD><TD class=text11B vAlign=bottom width="9%">Sacks Allwd</TD><TD class=text11B vAlign=bottom width="9%">Yds</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=text11 align=left>1998</TD><TD class=text11 align=left>NYJ (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=20)</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>9</TD><TD class=text11>50</TD><TD class=text11>7</TD><TD class=text11>1</TD><TD class=text11>2.25</TD><TD class=text11>15.75</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=text11 align=left>1999</TD><TD class=text11 align=left>NYJ (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=20)</TD><TD class=text11>9</TD><TD class=text11>9</TD><TD class=text11>2</TD><TD class=text11>10</TD><TD class=text11>2</TD><TD class=text11>0</TD><TD class=text11>4.50</TD><TD class=text11>22.50</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=text11 align=left>2000</TD><TD class=text11 align=left>NYJ (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=20)</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>8</TD><TD class=text11>60</TD><TD class=text11>4</TD><TD class=text11>1</TD><TD class=text11>3.25</TD><TD class=text11>9.25</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=text11 align=left>2001</TD><TD class=text11 align=left>NYJ (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=20)</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>7</TD><TD class=text11>45</TD><TD class=text11>4</TD><TD class=text11>2</TD><TD class=text11>4.50</TD><TD class=text11>30.00</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=text11 align=left>2002</TD><TD class=text11 align=left>NYJ (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=20)</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>3</TD><TD class=text11>20</TD><TD class=text11>2</TD><TD class=text11>1</TD><TD class=text11>8.50</TD><TD class=text11>52.00</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=text11 align=left>2003</TD><TD class=text11 align=left>NYJ (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=20)</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>8</TD><TD class=text11>61</TD><TD class=text11>4</TD><TD class=text11>2</TD><TD class=text11>8.75</TD><TD class=text11>59.50</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=text11 align=left>2004</TD><TD class=text11 align=left>NYJ (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=20)</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>9</TD><TD class=text11>48</TD><TD class=text11>8</TD><TD class=text11>1</TD><TD class=text11>7.25</TD><TD class=text11>33.25</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=text11 align=left>2005</TD><TD class=text11 align=left>NYJ (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=20)</TD><TD class=text11>9</TD><TD class=text11>9</TD><TD class=text11>2</TD><TD class=text11>10</TD><TD class=text11>2</TD><TD class=text11>0</TD><TD class=text11>7.25</TD><TD class=text11>46.25</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=text11B align=left colSpan=2>Totals</TD><TD class=text11B>114</TD><TD class=text11B>114</TD><TD class=text11B>-</TD><TD class=text11B>-</TD><TD class=text11B>-</TD><TD class=text11B>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

The Spaz
03-17-2006, 10:24 PM
Lets hope we can get Wells and or possibly Neal.

L.A. Playa
03-17-2006, 10:24 PM
this guy would be a loss

<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" bgColor=#999999 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=text16B align=middle colSpan=3>69, Jon Runyan, T, Philadelphia Eagles</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=text11 width="26%"> Height: 6-7</TD><TD class=text11 width="40%"> Weight: 330</TD><TD class=text11 width="34%"> Experience: 10 years</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=text11 width="26%"> Born: 11/27/1973</TD><TD class=text11 width="40%"> Birthplace: Flint, MI</TD><TD class=text11 width="34%"> College: Michigan</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><LINK href="/stats/nflinfo/nfl_stylesheet.css" rel=stylesheet>


<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" bgColor=#cccccc border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#999999><TD class=text11B vAlign=top align=middle colSpan=10>Career Offensive Line Stats</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=text11B vAlign=bottom align=left width="9%">Year</TD><TD class=text11B vAlign=bottom align=left width="9%">Team</TD><TD class=text11B vAlign=bottom width="9%">G</TD><TD class=text11B vAlign=bottom width="9%">GS</TD><TD class=text11B vAlign=bottom width="9%">Pen</TD><TD class=text11B vAlign=bottom width="9%">Yds</TD><TD class=text11B vAlign=bottom width="10%">False Start</TD><TD class=text11B vAlign=bottom width="9%">Holding</TD><TD class=text11B vAlign=bottom width="9%">Sacks Allwd</TD><TD class=text11B vAlign=bottom width="9%">Yds</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=text11 align=left>1996</TD><TD class=text11 align=left>Hou (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=10)</TD><TD class=text11>10</TD><TD class=text11>0</TD><TD class=text11>1</TD><TD class=text11>5</TD><TD class=text11>1</TD><TD class=text11>0</TD><TD class=text11>0.00</TD><TD class=text11>0.00</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=text11 align=left>1997</TD><TD class=text11 align=left>Ten (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=10)</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>6</TD><TD class=text11>40</TD><TD class=text11>5</TD><TD class=text11>0</TD><TD class=text11>5.75</TD><TD class=text11>39.75</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=text11 align=left>1998</TD><TD class=text11 align=left>Ten (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=10)</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>5</TD><TD class=text11>47</TD><TD class=text11>2</TD><TD class=text11>1</TD><TD class=text11>6.00</TD><TD class=text11>40.00</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=text11 align=left>1999</TD><TD class=text11 align=left>Ten (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=10)</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>4</TD><TD class=text11>30</TD><TD class=text11>2</TD><TD class=text11>1</TD><TD class=text11>4.50</TD><TD class=text11>33.00</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=text11 align=left>2000</TD><TD class=text11 align=left>Phi (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=21)</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>3</TD><TD class=text11>25</TD><TD class=text11>2</TD><TD class=text11>0</TD><TD class=text11>9.00</TD><TD class=text11>55.00</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=text11 align=left>2001</TD><TD class=text11 align=left>Phi (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=21)</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>6</TD><TD class=text11>45</TD><TD class=text11>3</TD><TD class=text11>3</TD><TD class=text11>10.00</TD><TD class=text11>61.50</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=text11 align=left>2002</TD><TD class=text11 align=left>Phi (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=21)</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>5</TD><TD class=text11>40</TD><TD class=text11>3</TD><TD class=text11>1</TD><TD class=text11>7.50</TD><TD class=text11>30.00</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=text11 align=left>2003</TD><TD class=text11 align=left>Phi (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=21)</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>3</TD><TD class=text11>25</TD><TD class=text11>2</TD><TD class=text11>0</TD><TD class=text11>9.00</TD><TD class=text11>59.00</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=text11 align=left>2004</TD><TD class=text11 align=left>Phi (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=21)</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>3</TD><TD class=text11>30</TD><TD class=text11>0</TD><TD class=text11>3</TD><TD class=text11>6.00</TD><TD class=text11>28.50</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=text11 align=left>2005</TD><TD class=text11 align=left>Phi (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=21)</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>16</TD><TD class=text11>7</TD><TD class=text11>50</TD><TD class=text11>5</TD><TD class=text11>1</TD><TD class=text11>4.00</TD><TD class=text11>15.50</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#cccccc><TD class=text11B align=left colSpan=2>Totals</TD><TD class=text11B>154</TD><TD class=text11B>144</TD><TD class=text11B>-</TD><TD class=text11B>-</TD><TD class=text11B>-</TD><TD class=text11B>-</TD><TD class=text11B>-</TD><TD class=text11B>-</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

THATHURMANATOR
03-17-2006, 10:24 PM
Fabini is old and is a right tackle. I am more excited about the Wells offer sheet as Wells is young an up and coming and Fabini is old and nearing the end.

gr8slayer
03-17-2006, 10:31 PM
I dont disagree with you Player. Im just saying that it would not have hurt to have Fabini.

BSXIII
03-17-2006, 11:40 PM
Hasn't Parcells proven to be one of the worst talent evaluators in the history of the NFL???

Tatonka
03-18-2006, 01:23 AM
Fabini is old and is a right tackle. I am more excited about the Wells offer sheet as Wells is young an up and coming and Fabini is old and nearing the end.

thank you!

the guy sucks.. he was the LT that did get 3 qbs killed.. he played 9 games and gave up 7 sacks..

GANDY DID BETTER THAN THAT!

fabini sucks.. he can go give up 20 sacks this season blocking for lead foot in dallas.

!Papacrunk!
03-18-2006, 06:11 AM
Not everyone on the board, but wasn't there a lot of people that wanted Fabini to sign?

My gut is telling me that Runyan will be the biggest FA to sign for the Bills when he gets back from his vacation (as someone else mentioned he was on.) He may not be young, but he's got experience at mulitple NFC Championships and a Super Bowl--that's invaluable in itself for something like an 0-lineman, IMO.

ICE74129
03-18-2006, 07:02 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2372555

Further proof of what I have been saying. The man NEVER had any intention at all of signing with us. "Fabini, a salary cap cut for the Jets, visited the Patriots and was in heavy negotiations with the Bucs but decided to go to the Cowboys." So while in Buffalo he was trying hard to become a Buc or a Cowboy

He signed a cheap assed 2 mill per year contract. You can't tell me we didn't match or maybe offer more looking at the contract we offered that guard from AZ. Fabini didn't want to be a Bill and was just taking the tours.

We will need a full season of progress and stability before we can sign some of these guys. I guarantee you this....we go say 6-10 - 8-8 but look solid and improving at the end of the 06 season, our QB situation is FINALLY settled, and players start telling other guys in the league how cool this staff is....guys like Pickett, Fabini etc won't leave OP without being a Bill.

ICE74129
03-18-2006, 07:03 AM
this guy would be a loss

<table bgcolor="#999999" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr bgcolor="#cccccc"><td class="text16B" colspan="3" align="center">69, Jon Runyan, T, Philadelphia Eagles</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"><td class="text11" width="26%"> Height: 6-7</td><td class="text11" width="40%"> Weight: 330</td><td class="text11" width="34%"> Experience: 10 years</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"><td class="text11" width="26%"> Born: 11/27/1973</td><td class="text11" width="40%"> Birthplace: Flint, MI</td><td class="text11" width="34%"> College: Michigan</td></tr></tbody></table>


<table bgcolor="#cccccc" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr bgcolor="#999999"><td class="text11B" colspan="10" align="center" valign="top">Career Offensive Line Stats</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#cccccc"><td class="text11B" align="left" valign="bottom" width="9%">Year</td><td class="text11B" align="left" valign="bottom" width="9%">Team</td><td class="text11B" valign="bottom" width="9%">G</td><td class="text11B" valign="bottom" width="9%">GS</td><td class="text11B" valign="bottom" width="9%">Pen</td><td class="text11B" valign="bottom" width="9%">Yds</td><td class="text11B" valign="bottom" width="10%">False Start</td><td class="text11B" valign="bottom" width="9%">Holding</td><td class="text11B" valign="bottom" width="9%">Sacks Allwd</td><td class="text11B" valign="bottom" width="9%">Yds</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#ffffff"><td class="text11" align="left">1996</td><td class="text11" align="left">Hou (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=10)</td><td class="text11">10</td><td class="text11">0</td><td class="text11">1</td><td class="text11">5</td><td class="text11">1</td><td class="text11">0</td><td class="text11">0.00</td><td class="text11">0.00</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#ffffff"><td class="text11" align="left">1997</td><td class="text11" align="left">Ten (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=10)</td><td class="text11">16</td><td class="text11">16</td><td class="text11">6</td><td class="text11">40</td><td class="text11">5</td><td class="text11">0</td><td class="text11">5.75</td><td class="text11">39.75</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#ffffff"><td class="text11" align="left">1998</td><td class="text11" align="left">Ten (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=10)</td><td class="text11">16</td><td class="text11">16</td><td class="text11">5</td><td class="text11">47</td><td class="text11">2</td><td class="text11">1</td><td class="text11">6.00</td><td class="text11">40.00</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#ffffff"><td class="text11" align="left">1999</td><td class="text11" align="left">Ten (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=10)</td><td class="text11">16</td><td class="text11">16</td><td class="text11">4</td><td class="text11">30</td><td class="text11">2</td><td class="text11">1</td><td class="text11">4.50</td><td class="text11">33.00</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#ffffff"><td class="text11" align="left">2000</td><td class="text11" align="left">Phi (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=21)</td><td class="text11">16</td><td class="text11">16</td><td class="text11">3</td><td class="text11">25</td><td class="text11">2</td><td class="text11">0</td><td class="text11">9.00</td><td class="text11">55.00</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#ffffff"><td class="text11" align="left">2001</td><td class="text11" align="left">Phi (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=21)</td><td class="text11">16</td><td class="text11">16</td><td class="text11">6</td><td class="text11">45</td><td class="text11">3</td><td class="text11">3</td><td class="text11">10.00</td><td class="text11">61.50</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#ffffff"><td class="text11" align="left">2002</td><td class="text11" align="left">Phi (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=21)</td><td class="text11">16</td><td class="text11">16</td><td class="text11">5</td><td class="text11">40</td><td class="text11">3</td><td class="text11">1</td><td class="text11">7.50</td><td class="text11">30.00</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#ffffff"><td class="text11" align="left">2003</td><td class="text11" align="left">Phi (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=21)</td><td class="text11">16</td><td class="text11">16</td><td class="text11">3</td><td class="text11">25</td><td class="text11">2</td><td class="text11">0</td><td class="text11">9.00</td><td class="text11">59.00</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#ffffff"><td class="text11" align="left">2004</td><td class="text11" align="left">Phi (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=21)</td><td class="text11">16</td><td class="text11">16</td><td class="text11">3</td><td class="text11">30</td><td class="text11">0</td><td class="text11">3</td><td class="text11">6.00</td><td class="text11">28.50</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#ffffff"><td class="text11" align="left">2005</td><td class="text11" align="left">Phi (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/teams.asp?team=21)</td><td class="text11">16</td><td class="text11">16</td><td class="text11">7</td><td class="text11">50</td><td class="text11">5</td><td class="text11">1</td><td class="text11">4.00</td><td class="text11">15.50</td></tr><tr align="right" bgcolor="#cccccc"><td class="text11B" colspan="2" align="left">Totals</td><td class="text11B">154</td><td class="text11B">144</td><td class="text11B">-</td><td class="text11B">-</td><td class="text11B">-</td><td class="text11B">-</td><td class="text11B">-</td><td class="text11B">-</td></tr></tbody></table>

But how much do you put into a guy that old?

Nighthawk
03-18-2006, 07:11 AM
Further proof of what I have been saying. The man NEVER had any intention at all of signing with us. "Fabini, a salary cap cut for the Jets, visited the Patriots and was in heavy negotiations with the Bucs but decided to go to the Cowboys." So while in Buffalo he was trying hard to become a Buc or a Cowboy

He signed a cheap assed 2 mill per year contract. You can't tell me we didn't match or maybe offer more looking at the contract we offered that guard from AZ. Fabini didn't want to be a Bill and was just taking the tours.

We will need a full season of progress and stability before we can sign some of these guys. I guarantee you this....we go say 6-10 - 8-8 but look solid and improving at the end of the 06 season, our QB situation is FINALLY settled, and players start telling other guys in the league how cool this staff is....guys like Pickett, Fabini etc won't leave OP without being a Bill.


Ice, you don't know that the Bills matched or offered more...that is just speculation. What is fact is that another quality player didn't sign here, either because Ralph & Marv are low balling these players or maybe players are seeing what's going on here and are not interested in coming.

ICE74129
03-18-2006, 07:14 AM
Ice, you don't know that the Bills matched or offered more...that is just speculation. What is fact is that another quality player didn't sign here, either because Ralph & Marv are low balling these players or maybe players are seeing what's going on here and are not interested in coming.

Pure hysterical knee jerk reaction. He was an ok tackle. He had no intention on being here period.

Nighthawk
03-18-2006, 07:22 AM
Pure hysterical knee jerk reaction. He was an ok tackle. He had no intention on being here period.

Listen, I am not a hysterical knee jerk reaction type, I state pure fact. Right now, as of today, we are not good enough on the OL. Yes, we signed a young guy to an offer sheet, but the Cards have plenty of money to sign him and if they think he is that good, they're not going to let him go...especially since they just signed Edge. They need somebody to block for him, right?

Mitchy moo
03-18-2006, 07:52 AM
Can I get some good rep love now, I called this alot earlier and got toasted and choked and taunted........


http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?p=1403375#post1403375