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  • patmoran2006
    Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
    • Dec 2005
    • 19840

    There's NO reason to not contend in 2006

    * New England has been absolutely decimated by Free Agency and Cuts: They've lost Adam V, Willie McGinest, Tom Ashworth, Stephen Neal, David Givens, Poole among others. They also lost another coach to the Jets.

    * Miami has a new QB to break into the system, one that has to overcome a knee injury still. They also have a deplorable secondary and they're old in the front seven. Their good on paper but have a lot of holes.

    * The Jets are still.. the Jets

    There is absolutely no reason anybody can sell me on that the Buffalo Bills can't and SHOULDN't be contenders to win the AFC East in 2006.

    Even with our rash of "under the radar" signings (and that's putting it mildly) we are still in better cap shape than any of these teams. We also have more money coming to us when Moulds gets traded/cut, and we also have that fat slob Bennie Anderson's salary, as well as Mike Gandy's if we sign a tackle. NOt too mention, if Milloy was such a lousy "fit" in the cover two, why the hell is Posey on this team? Thats $1.75 million right there.

    Point being? We started with a center (who may be good, but if why the hell does every photo on the net still have him in a Browns uniform?)..

    Sign another guard and vet tackle like Runyan or Hopkins.. Have a real good draft with two starters coming out (DT and S) have a tackle to develop and this team can contend now.

    This division is weaker than a Puma sneaker.

    One last thing. Does Jauron ENJOY the Quarterbacking circus? I know he had it in Chicago.. What the hell is going on here? I"ll reserve judgement for now, but Losman is starting and Nall is #2 with Holcomb packing.. Regardless, its the one thing I"m worried about that's going to become a mess.

    The bottom line is this division sucks and there's NO reason to not contend immediately.. NE's days of dominance are over.


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  • TacklingDummy
    Unreachable Douche
    • Jul 2002
    • 71725

    #2
    Re: There's NO reason to not contend in 2006

    The once powerful AFC East, is now a joke. Bills sucked last year, Jets sucked last year, Miami for the most part sucked last year, and even the Patroits weren't as good as prevouis years.

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    • TacklingDummy
      Unreachable Douche
      • Jul 2002
      • 71725

      #3
      Re: There's NO reason to not contend in 2006

      [QUOTE=patmoran2006
      One last thing. Does Jauron ENJOY the Quarterbacking circus? I know he had it in Chicago.. What the hell is going on here? I"ll reserve judgement for now, but Losman is starting and Nall is #2 with Holcomb packing.. Regardless, its the one thing I"m worried about that's going to become a mess.
      [/QUOTE]

      Chicago hasn't had a QB since Jim McManhon, the Bills havent had a QB since Jim Kelly.

      The Bills QB situation is not going to become a mess, it is a mess. I have no faith in any of them. But Holcomb isn't going anywhere and will most likey be starter.

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      • OpIv37
        Acid Douching Asswipe
        • Sep 2002
        • 101230

        #4
        Re: There's NO reason to not contend in 2006

        I agree that NE's dominance is over, and the Jets are still a mess. But Miami has made some huge FA moves to address holes after vastly improving last season, and the Bills still have big holes to fill in both lines. And NE is still good enough to be competitive in the division.

        If the season started today, I'd put the Bills as 3rd in the division. There's still some time left in FA and the draft, but I'm not holding out too much hope at this point.
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        • Patrick76777
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 17297

          #5
          Re: There's NO reason to not contend in 2006

          Originally posted by TacklingDummy
          The once powerful AFC East, is now a joke. Bills sucked last year, Jets sucked last year, Miami for the most part sucked last year, and even the Patroits weren't as good as prevouis years.
          The East will never be a joke again. Think about it. You’ve got 3 of the biggest cities in the league in the division. 4 teams that want to win very bad and spend wildly every year to reach those goals. No team in the division is ever down for too long. (sure we haven’t been to the playoffs in a long time, but we were close twice in the last 4 years. 2 years ago, Miami was terrible, now they’re the favorites. And they don’t even have a QB.
          Resign our own guys!

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          • patmoran2006
            Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
            • Dec 2005
            • 19840

            #6
            Re: There's NO reason to not contend in 2006

            Originally posted by OpIv37
            I agree that NE's dominance is over, and the Jets are still a mess. But Miami has made some huge FA moves to address holes after vastly improving last season, and the Bills still have big holes to fill in both lines. And NE is still good enough to be competitive in the division.

            If the season started today, I'd put the Bills as 3rd in the division. There's still some time left in FA and the draft, but I'm not holding out too much hope at this point.
            I agree.. What Im trying to say is we are a couple of key FA away (and IM talking LINEMEN FA's) from closing that gap from 3rd towards the top.

            Miami is the best team in this division now IMO.. NE cant possibly continue to lose guys and coaches everywhere and not have them slip.. NOt too mention they're LB's are really old and the secondary is not good, and thats BEFORE these loses.

            I'm just kinda disgusted that Buffalo hasnt done more to address the OL other than FOWLER; though I'm also aware that Marv seems to be settling into whatever it is his OL plan is.. I do know Marv is smart enough to know Bennie Anderson aint gonna cut it and probably not Gandy either..


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            • Mski
              Registered User
              • Mar 2006
              • 6753

              #7
              Re: There's NO reason to not contend in 2006

              Originally posted by Patrick76777
              Miami was terrible, now they’re the favorites. And they don’t even have a QB.
              are you forgetting about that dante guy who threw for 39td's two years ago?
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              • Patrick76777
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 17297

                #8
                Re: There's NO reason to not contend in 2006

                Originally posted by Mski
                are you forgetting about that dante guy who threw for 39td's two years ago?


                From what I heard, he might not be cleared to play until Halloween.
                Resign our own guys!

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                • Gunzlingr
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 45976

                  #9
                  Re: There's NO reason to not contend in 2006

                  Originally posted by Mski
                  are you forgetting about that dante guy who threw for 39td's two years ago?
                  I think he is remembering the guy that more recently had 6 tds, 12 Ints, and had numerous fumbles on his way to a 2-5 record
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                  • Patrick76777
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 17297

                    #10
                    Re: There's NO reason to not contend in 2006

                    Originally posted by Gunzlingr
                    I think he is remembering the guy that more recently had 6 tds, 12 Ints, and had numerous fumbles on his way to a 2-5 record

                    Yeah, that dude. The dude with the attitude problem.
                    Resign our own guys!

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                    • tat2dmike77
                      Let the planet get warmer. We'll grow oranges in Alaska!
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 9285

                      #11
                      Re: There's NO reason to not contend in 2006

                      Everyone remembers dautae with moss and how he lit it up with moss. Everyone is giving him a free pass cause last year he hurt his little knee. Then he cried about playing in minn wanting more money blah blah blah. We have all heard it.

                      So what miami got cullpepper whippppeeee. Everyone is saying how great miami is cause of thier win streak last season. Hey for those of you who don't know they only beat 1 team with a winning record and even that doesn't count since it was against thier backups. Does this sound familar to anyone well except for the part of beating back ups.

                      Saban a first year coach starts off crappy then finishes strong. MM did the same thing now thier together. I guess MM is gonna give him some pointers on how to handle the 2nd year pressure. By just being a bonehead or something.

                      Anyway is the division weaker yeah most likely. Well does that mean the bills can contend yes but i always look at it like everyone can. Remember at the start of the season all teams are 0-0. Until someone knocks NE off thier throne then they still have to be the favorite. As much as it pains me to say it but until the king is dead he's still the king. I think in the divisions case the king is very very very ill right now and possibly on life support.

                      Who knows for all we know the jets couls be a surprise hey it happens sometimes and while it may be unlikely it could happen. If the bills want to contend they need to learn to win on the road. You take this team away from OP and they suck. Yes we need certain players in here to make things work but there is still time to get those players. The fact is this team needs to be able to win atleast half thier road games. Not just one or two but atleast four. Then they could be a serious contender for the division.

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                      • BleedinGreenNC
                        Registered User
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 1679

                        #12
                        Re: There's NO reason to not contend in 2006

                        i am so sick and tired of hearing the fins fans saying that Daunte coming to them is the second coming of Marino!

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                        • patmoran2006
                          Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 19840

                          #13
                          Re: There's NO reason to not contend in 2006

                          My point is that this division is FAR from stacked like the NFC East where every team is a legitimate Super Bowl contender..

                          This division is one of; if not the weakest overall division in football and there's no reason Marv is going to sell me on (not that he has ) that this team should not REALISTICALLY be approaching 2006 with a chance to win the AFC East.


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                          • OpIv37
                            Acid Douching Asswipe
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 101230

                            #14
                            Re: There's NO reason to not contend in 2006

                            Originally posted by BleedinGreenNC
                            i am so sick and tired of hearing the fins fans saying that Daunte coming to them is the second coming of Marino!
                            It is pretty annoying, but I liken it to the way Bills fans felt when we got Drew Bledsoe: he had issues, but compared to the garbage that had been playing under center, he WAS the second coming of Joe Namath.
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                            • Mr. Pink
                              Peterman Sucks!
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 35303

                              #15
                              Re: There's NO reason to not contend in 2006

                              Daunte is a bum because the Dolphins have him now! I love it.

                              Go over each teams roster in our division and how they played last year....Don't forget the Jets are also only one year removed from a playoff team and they aren't that much different of a team now other than Chad Penningtons' spaghetti arm. The Dolphins are a team on the rise and the Patsies, well they're the Patsies. If anyone has any delusions of grandeur that this is the year the Bills can contend in this division they're far offbase.

                              What we're at right now is a few year rebuilding process in which we'll hopefully win 5-6 games this year, might be a stretch, flirt around .500 next year, then in 2008 we can have a team that can make a serious run at a division title.

                              That's literally where we're at now unfortunately we've all had to put up with a subpar organization for the past 6 years. So many of us sit here and bash "mid tier" free agent signings, laugh at the direction of the franchise and quite frankly question which direction this franchise is heading in. I myself admit that I am one of those people. But based upon what we've seen the past 6 seasons can you really blame or any of the other "sky is falling" people?

                              It just irks me when a fan, which yes we're fans of the Bills, but more importantly we're fans of the NFL, sit there and blast teams like the Fish for bringing in Culpepper. Culpepper brings the Dolphins their first legitimate QB since Marino. And we all sit here and applaud Marv for bringing in third string
                              QB Craig Nall. And treat him like he's the second coming of Kurt Warner, Jake Delhomme etc.

                              I'm done now.

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