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1) Buffalo hasn't had an impact TE in years.
2) TE's are vital to young QB development, esp one with his skills.
3) He's a better pass catching option than any of the "#2 WR's" on the current depth chart.
I'm assuming that even in this hypothetical situation we have to pay the free agent market value -- in that case I go with Shaffer too. Then Pickett, then Gates. If you mean "free" as in "no cost" I'll pick Gates first.
If Antonio Gates, Kevin Shaffer and Ryan Pickett by legal loop-hole ALL became free agents right now at this very second......
And the Buffalo Bills had first dibs at one of them.
Which one would you take?
What was the point of this thread?
If we could go back in time and bring back OJ from 1972 would we get rid of Willis?! Let's have a poll on this as well. Geez, it must be a slow news day!!!
But if this leads to'draft Davis over Ngata/Buckley and Justice' you are starting with a misleading and inaccurate premise, so the answer Gates means nothing.
But if this leads to'draft Davis over Ngata/Buckley and Justice' you are starting with a misleading and inaccurate premise, so the answer Gates means nothing.
come on Doc you know what this is all about. This is worse than a skunk trying to pass it's self off as the typical neighborhood kitty...
If we could go back in time and bring back OJ from 1972 would we get rid of Willis?! Let's have a poll on this as well. Geez, it must be a slow news day!!!
You want to know the point of this thread, here it is... Maybe people will actually read unbiased too, though I highly doubt it.
Kevin Shaffer is a good tackle. There are plenty of other Kevin Shaffer's however.. Bryant McKinnie, Jeff Backus, Jamal Brown and Robert Gallery are all good and pretty much on the same level.
Ryan Pickett is a good defensive tackle.. There are other Ryan Pickett's however. Rocky Bernard, Pat Williams, Kris Jenkins and Gerard Warren all are all good and pretty much on the same level.
There aint but one Antonio Gates, and everybody knows this.
How could you not take Antonio Gates?
It does to no one's surprise, relate to the draft.. How could you NOT take Vernon Davis over Winston Justice or Bunkley?
Use a rookie comparision as above.
Winston Justice is the best at his position (I dont even count Brick), but there is plenty of depth at the position. ONly Eric WInston is projected as a first rounder. That means between rounds 2-3 Marcus McNeil, Andrew Whitworth, Jeremy Trueblood, Ryan O'Callaghan, Johnathan Scott and Darren Colledge.
Bunkley (or Ngata if he's your preference) is the best at his position but there is plenty of round two and three depth after him: Gabe Watson, Claude Wroten, Jesse Mahelona, Montavious Stanley, John McCargo, Dusty Dvoracek, Rod Wright and Jonhathan Lewis provide a great amount of depth.
There is only one Vernon Davis. read previous threads for his impact as I dont need to spell it out again.
EVeryone EVERYDAY on here talks about these pittsburgh and denver's building their offensive line and teams through the draft.. Fine.
Go look at EVERY ONE Of those teams and see how many people on those offensive lines were first-round picks.
Denver has taken an offensive linemen in the first round once in the last 10 years; Foster in 2003.
Pittsburgh has taken an offensive linemen in the first rounce twice in the last seven years; both guards Faneca and Simmons and both were picked late in round one, 26 and 32.
The last two times Pitt has picked in the first half of round one, they took Big Ben and Polamalu.
It doesn't take a scientiest to figure out how weak the Bills are on each side of the Ball. But when you have a top 8 picks you have to take a player that can be a FRANCHISE player at that spot. Vernon Davis is that guy.
They can be like a Den and Pitt and draft good lineme throughout the bulk of the draft.. Most of Den and Pitt's line are stocked with second, third and even fourth round picks..
If Marv is smart with this draft, he can have his cake AND eat it to..
Round 1- Davis
Round 2- Best OT
Round 3 BOTH PICKS (Best DTs)
Round 4- Best Guard
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