The logic behind a JP trade is.....

[Mr. Cynical]

...absolutely zero. We will get nothing...I repeat, nothing...for him. Why?

Because if Marv and Co. are "shopping him around", don't you think that other teams are going to figure it out that if JP was any good that we'd be keeping him? You don't trade someone you blew a set of #1, #2, #5 picks on who has played in 9 games behind a s**t line under a s**t coach in a s**t system....UNLESS....you think he sucks. So the other teams will figure this out and we won't get anything more than the waterboy.

May as well give him a chance. I will bet all my zbs that he is on the roster come Sept.

[Tinboy]

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The only trade I see is as a back-up QB but we will only get 6-7 th round pick for. Stick with him and have him start all season, if he suckes after this season release.

[The_Philster]

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The only trade I see is as a back-up QB but we will only get 6-7 th round pick for. Stick with him and have him start all season, if he suckes after this season release.

The only smart thing to do

[Night Train]

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But Yahoo's Charles Robinson is sticking his non-existent rep on the line.

[YardRat]

Re: The logic behind a JP trade is.....

Maybe other teams have the same take on JP as some Bills' fans do...

Surround him with "talent", let him "develop" on the field, and he's going to be the "QB of the future."

He has "potential", you know.

[Mitchy moo]

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Young is our future, he'll be here.

[X-Era]

Re: The logic behind a JP trade is.....

...absolutely zero. We will get nothing...I repeat, nothing...for him. Why?

Because if Marv and Co. are "shopping him around", don't you think that other teams are going to figure it out that if JP was any good that we'd be keeping him? You don't trade someone you blew a set of #1, #2, #5 picks on who has played in 9 games behind a s**t line under a s**t coach in a s**t system....UNLESS....you think he sucks. So the other teams will figure this out and we won't get anything more than the waterboy.

May as well give him a chance. I will bet all my zbs that he is on the roster come Sept.

I have to agree. I just cant see any team being stupid enough to trade that much for a QB only to trade him for jack squat later without ever giving him any chance to play (at least with this regime). I think its just conjecture. I think its all crap.

We wont get enough in a trade to make it worth it, hes here plain and simple.

Personally, I think the hype falls of Nall and Hole-pelt pretty quick when the balls start flying. Losman has talent. I think he steps up, and with Eric gone starts to look like the players they drafted.

[vicmantak]

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If J.P. means the job of Donahoe and Mularkey... it doesn't make any sense that Levy and Jauron will be willing to continue this experiment.

Any franchise starts surrounding their QB (leader) and IMO trading J.P. simply makes things way easier.

[ICE74129]

Re: The logic behind a JP trade is.....

Maybe other teams have the same take on JP as some Bills' fans do...

Surround him with "talent", let him "develop" on the field, and he's going to be the "QB of the future."

He has "potential", you know.

If Ryan leaf got 3 chances, how many for a guy like losman. Do you guys (not rat) not think they dont see the SH@! this kid has been through? They will figure the kid got screwed over just like we have.

Look Including Buffalo I know of THREE Teams that were going to draft this kid in the first round. He has no major injuries, is young and has a great upside.

YES Marv will get something for him.

[Bulldog]

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Bottom line, I would rather have JP and take the chance that he's going to develop into a good QB that some other teams 7th round draft pick. I think JP has a better chance of turning into something as opposed to a 7th rounder. I for one think this whole thing is BS. If Marv & Dick go into training camp with Nall and KH, then this whole franchise is in deep S H I T !

[mybills]

Re: The logic behind a JP trade is.....

Maybe other teams have the same take on JP as some Bills' fans do...

Surround him with "talent", let him "develop" on the field, and he's going to be the "QB of the future."

He has "potential", you know.

I agree. If so many Bills fans want to hang on to him so badly, and give him a chance, what makes them think other people won't want to? We are rebuilding, and that doesn't mean we look stupid for getting rid of him. It just means we are rebuilding.
Besides, he DOES have potential, and value. I have faith in Marv.

[ICE74129]

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I agree. If so many Bills fans want to hang on to him so badly, and give him a chance, what makes them think other people won't want to? We are rebuilding, and that doesn't mean we look stupid for getting rid of him. It just means we are rebuilding.
Besides, he DOES have potential, and value. I have faith in Marv.

Here is the deal....Marv and THIS regime don't want him here. They want a fresh start and they won't have it until he is gone.

That said, I am glad. I like JP. The kid got DP'ed (I know YOU know what that means ) By MM and tom Clements all last year. I want to see this kid succeed. Given a real chance he will.

It would be the right thing for us, and for him. I say Croyle in the 3rd. No real pressure being a 3rd round pick and can develop in fairchilds system from the start.

[Bulldog]

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I agree. If so many Bills fans want to hang on to him so badly, and give him a chance, what makes them think other people won't want to? We are rebuilding, and that doesn't mean we look stupid for getting rid of him. It just means we are rebuilding.
Besides, he DOES have potential, and value. I have faith in Marv.

If a team is rebuilding, why would they try and trade a QB who is young and could grow with the team? That statement doesn't seem logical to me.

[ICE74129]

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If a team is rebuilding, why would they try and trade a QB who is young and could grow with the team? That statement doesn't seem logical to me.

Sure it does. There was a major issue that tore this locker room apart last year. JP Was the center of it, right or wrong. Even if he did nothing there are still those with issues against the kid. He has to go.

Every friggin day this staff fields JP questions. They are going to end that. Marv doesn't want that first round pressure on his QB. We dont' have a good enough team to help him. We dont have time for him to get up to speed either and apperantly he isn't.

We will start Nall and draft a 3rd or 4th round guy to develop. And before anyone *****es about a 3rd or 4th round guy...when was Tom Brady drafted? If you build up the TEAM, then it doesn't matter where your QB was drafted if he has a good brain.

[mybills]

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I'd like to know how many zoners were actually around during the Marv era, and how many just read or heard about him.
I'm almost as old as Marv, and I see what he's doing. It's a smart move, trust him.