Everyone Who's Saying Give JP a Chance

[Forward_Lateral]

Take your own advice and give Marv a chance. The guy has been the GM of The Bills for a few months, and he's already under the microscope. How about trusting his judgement for a change. I think he knows a thing or two about football, and what it takes to win. He knows a hell of a lot more than anyone who posts on any message board, or any sports writer, so how about cutting the guy a tiny bit of slack.

That is all.

Good Day.

[Night Train]

Take your own advice and give Marv a chance. The guy has been the GM of The Bills for a few months, and he's already under the microscope. How about trusting his judgement for a change. I think he knows a thing or two about football, and what it takes to win. He knows a hell of a lot more than anyone who posts on any message board, or any sports writer, so how about cutting the guy a tiny bit of slack.

That is all.

Good Day.

Marv knows more than us ? Impossible. :D:

I'm looking forward to the upcoming Draft and can't wait to see how this all unfolds. Exciting times. In Marv I trust.

[Gunzlingr]

I disagree. A host of other posters here know more, and they aren't afraid to tell you about it.

[BillsNick]

:deadhorse

[Forward_Lateral]

I disagree. A host of other posters here know more, and they aren't afraid to tell you about it.

:rofl: You are right.

[Philagape]

Yup, a third-year QB and an 80-year-old GM are ENTIRELY comparable. They should be given an equal amount of slack. Right.

[Forward_Lateral]

Yup, a third-year QB and an 80-year-old GM are ENTIRELY comparable. They should be given an equal amount of slack. Right.

Your right, a 3rd year QB knows how to run an NFL team better than an 80 year old who coached a team to 4 AFC titles. My bad. You're right.

[ICE74129]

Take your own advice and give Marv a chance. The guy has been the GM of The Bills for a few months, and he's already under the microscope. How about trusting his judgement for a change. I think he knows a thing or two about football, and what it takes to win. He knows a hell of a lot more than anyone who posts on any message board, or any sports writer, so how about cutting the guy a tiny bit of slack.

That is all.

Good Day.

Isn't it funny how fans were willing to give TD who was FIRED in Pitt 3 years but won't give Marv even 3 months?

[McBFLO]

I've been saying that Marv deserves the benefit of the doubt all along. The guy did lead the Bills to four straight Super Bowls! I know I know, as a coach. But like I've said in the past, he knows football inside and out and he deserves a shot.

[Jan Reimers]

Marv has commented more than once how Aikman was 1-15 his first year, how he thought that Elway would never make it after his first couple of years, how Peyton Manning was pretty bad at the beginning of his career, etc.

Marv should heed his own words and at least give JP this season to prove himself one way or the other.

[Philagape]

Your right, a 3rd year QB knows how to run an NFL team better than an 80 year old who coached a team to 4 AFC titles. My bad. You're right.

Is that what I said? Do you just make stuff up or did what I say just fly right over your head?

A young QB needs time to get good at what he does. Any GM, especially one who's been around as long as Levy, brings expertise to the job and should know what he's doing from Day 1. Therefore there's no comparing the two jobs.

[Forward_Lateral]

Is that what I said? Do you just make stuff up or did what I say just fly right over your head?

A young QB needs time to get good at what he does. Any GM, especially one who's been around as long as Levy, brings expertise to the job and should know what he's doing from Day 1. Therefore there's no comparing the two jobs.

Did I compare the jobs? No. Quit putting words into my mouth. If Marv doesn't think JP can lead the team, then he should get rid of him. I dont' care if he's played 100000 games or 1. If the HC and GM don't have any confidence in a QB, what's the point of keeping him around? He's only being set up to fail. I'm not saying Marv is right, or wrong, I'm saying give the guy a chance. If he doesn't think JP is the right QB, or lacks character, or whatever, then he has every right to get rid of him. This is MARV'S team now, not TDs. Remember that.

[OpIv37]

Isn't it funny how fans were willing to give TD who was FIRED in Pitt 3 years but won't give Marv even 3 months?
because back then we only had 2 years of losing- now we've had to endure 6. The patience now isn't what it was then.

Plus I think your assumption is generally false- I don't recall too many people questioning TD's hiring, but I do remember a lot of people calling for his head after 2 years.

[Forward_Lateral]

Marv has commented more than once how Aikman was 1-15 his first year, how he thought that Elway would never make it after his first couple of years, how Peyton Manning was pretty bad at the beginning of his career, etc.

Marv should heed his own words and at least give JP this season to prove himself one way or the other.

He should only give him a chance IF he thinks Losman has what it takes. If he has no confidence in the kid, there's not much point in giving him a shot, because it wouldn't be a "fair" shot.

[Philagape]

Marv gets no free pass. I'll wait and see how his moves turn out before passing final judgment, but I'm not giving anyone the benefit of the doubt.

[Forward_Lateral]

Marv gets no free pass. I'll wait and see how his moves turn out before passing final judgment, but I'm not giving anyone the benefit of the doubt.

What about Losman? Are you going to give him the benefit of the doubt?

[Philagape]

What about Losman? Are you going to give him the benefit of the doubt?

I want to give him a chance. It's too early to either doubt him or anoint him a savior.

[ICE74129]

because back then we only had 2 years of losing- now we've had to endure 6. The patience now isn't what it was then.

Plus I think your assumption is generally false- I don't recall too many people questioning TD's hiring, but I do remember a lot of people calling for his head after 2 years.

And its marvs fault how that we have lost for the last 6 years? Let marv have his shot.

[ICE74129]

Marv gets no free pass. I'll wait and see how his moves turn out before passing final judgment, but I'm not giving anyone the benefit of the doubt.

TD got about a 3 year free pass. Marv didn't get 3 weeks.

[Philagape]

TD got about a 3 year free pass.

Not from me

[patmoran2006]

if anyone here has called for Marv's head after only two or so months, its news to me.. I"ve seen nothing but support for Marv on here.. Don't count me among the cheerleaders for Marv as I dont want him as our GM nor did I like him as our GM on January 4th either.

But, I think on a whole everyone is giving him the benefit of the doubt.. I despise most of his moves so far, but I dont call for his head or say he should be fired.. so to me, thats the benefit of the doubt.

If he cuts JP tommorow, I give him the benefit of the doubt.. Laterall I agree with you in a regard that I dont care if JP has played one game or 1000. If he's not Marv's guy he has the right to get rid of him.

[patmoran2006]

And its marvs fault how that we have lost for the last 6 years? Let marv have his shot.
Giving someone the benefit of the doubt is one thing..........Giving someone a flat-out EXCUSE for failure is another..

Funny thing, all these BUMS that donahoe drafted.. Marv sure seems to be re-signing a lot of them lately, no? Reed, Haggan, AIken, Denney,etc.

They were free agents... They were gone.. Now, They're Bills again.. they are no longer Donahoe guys.. They are now officially MARV LEVY guys..

To this point, he's kept Bennie Anderson, Mike Gandy and Chris Villarrial on the line instead of cutting them and looking for replacements.. He had cap room to make moves there, and didnt.. That's cool. But again, these are no longer Donahoe guys.. HE keeps them, they are now Marv Levy guys.

[Philagape]

If he cuts JP tommorow, I give him the benefit of the doubt.. Laterall I agree with you in a regard that I dont care if JP has played one game or 1000. If he's not Marv's guy he has the right to get rid of him.

But that doesn't mean anyone here has to like it. We have the right to be skeptical.

[patmoran2006]

But that doesn't mean anyone here has to like it. We have the right to be skeptical.
I hear you bro, and nobody is more skeptical right now than I am.

[McBFLO]

I want to give him a chance. It's too early to either doubt him or anoint him a savior.
So you're willing to give JP more of a chance than Marv? That's ridiculous. What has JP done in the league compared to Marv? And, I'm not a JP hater either, just so ya know.

[McBFLO]

But that doesn't mean anyone here has to like it. We have the right to be skeptical.
You're right. You do. Just like we have the right to remain optimistic until proven otherwise.

[Philagape]

So you're willing to give JP more of a chance than Marv? That's ridiculous. What has JP done in the league compared to Marv? And, I'm not a JP hater either, just so ya know.

See my post above about comparing the jobs.

[Philagape]

It's BECAUSE Marv is so accomplished that I don't give him a free pass. He doesn't need a learning curve. He comes with high expectations.

[Philagape]

You're right. You do. Just like we have the right to remain optimistic until proven otherwise.

And that's fine. I won't bash those who are, like the name-calling negs I've gotten in this thread from someone who obviously can't have an adult conversation.

[OpIv37]

And its marvs fault how that we have lost for the last 6 years? Let marv have his shot.

no, but the fact that Marv is new doesn't make it easier on fans. Six years of losing is a very slow wound to heal.

[ICE74129]

It's BECAUSE Marv is so accomplished that I don't give him a free pass. He doesn't need a learning curve. He comes with high expectations.

and TD was accomplished and was allowed time before being beat down by the fans. Marv has had the job for 2 whopping months. TD got over 2 years before the ripping began.

[ICE74129]

no, but the fact that Marv is new doesn't make it easier on fans. Six years of losing is a very slow wound to heal.

Again that has nothing to do with marv. Leave the man alone and let him work his plan.

[patmoran2006]

and TD was accomplished and was allowed time before being beat down by the fans. Marv has had the job for 2 whopping months. TD got over 2 years before the ripping began.

who is ripping Marv?

[TacklingDummy]

Marv has commented more than once how Aikman was 1-15 his first year, how he thought that Elway would never make it after his first couple of years, how Peyton Manning was pretty bad at the beginning of his career, etc.



I'd agree with this If Losman showed signs he was going to be a good QB like Manning, Aikman and Elway did.

[OpIv37]

Again that has nothing to do with marv. Leave the man alone and let him work his plan.

It most certainly does have something to do with Marv: it's his job to fix it. And he's not going to do it by keeping all of TD's garbage, which seems to be his strategy so far.

[Jan Reimers]

He should only give him a chance IF he thinks Losman has what it takes. If he has no confidence in the kid, there's not much point in giving him a shot, because it wouldn't be a "fair" shot.
I love Marv, but I don't think he's clairvoyant. And I don't understand how he can give up on JP after being GM for all of 2 months or whatever.

[Jan Reimers]

I'd agree with this If Losman showed signs he was going to be a good QB like Manning, Aikman and Elway did.
He has. But those who have been anti-JP from day one will never see anything positive.

[TigerJ]

Take your own advice and give Marv a chance. The guy has been the GM of The Bills for a few months, and he's already under the microscope. How about trusting his judgement for a change. I think he knows a thing or two about football, and what it takes to win. He knows a hell of a lot more than anyone who posts on any message board, or any sports writer, so how about cutting the guy a tiny bit of slack.

That is all.

Good Day.

OK, but you didn't have to convince me.

[The_Philster]

I love Marv, but I don't think he's clairvoyant. And I don't understand how he can give up on JP after being GM for all of 2 months or whatever.
agreed...it'd be just our luck that the Pats end up getting him...Then Brady gets hurt and we all breathe a sigh of relief...they insert JP and he tears it up...putting together better games than Brady did