So, Do we get a 4th rounder tomorrow?

[ICE74129]

Moulds is supposed to be in Houston getting the physical and signing the deal. It's all moot if compensation can't be reached. I think they pony up thier 4th rounder.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Or maybe it gets a little more complicated than that.

Maybe we give up Moulds and a 6th for their 4th and 7th or something like that.

[Dozerdog]

I'd give up a 7th to git'er done

[acehole]

I woukld be very happy if we could just swap spots in the 2nd round....we will have a shot at the takle from Maimi...both houston and the jets will pick him before our spot......

they can keep there 4th....

Hey where is the guy with the pionts value thingy....is this equivilant to a 4th rounder?

[Dozerdog]

<table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="bg1" align="center"> <td colspan="2"> Round 1 </td> <td colspan="2"> Round 2 </td> <td colspan="2"> Round 3 </td> <td colspan="2"> Round 4 </td> <td colspan="2"> Round 5 </td> <td colspan="2"> Round 6 </td> <td colspan="2"> Round 7 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 1 </td> <td> 3,000 </td> <td class="bg3"> 33 </td> <td class="bg3"> 580 </td> <td> 65 </td> <td> 265 </td> <td class="bg3"> 97 </td> <td class="bg3"> 112 </td> <td> 129 </td> <td> 43 </td> <td class="bg3"> 161 </td> <td class="bg3"> 27 </td> <td> 193 </td> <td> 14.2 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 2 </td> <td> 2,600 </td> <td class="bg3"> 34 </td> <td class="bg3"> 560 </td> <td> 66 </td> <td> 260 </td> <td class="bg3"> 98 </td> <td class="bg3"> 108 </td> <td> 130 </td> <td> 42 </td> <td class="bg3"> 162 </td> <td class="bg3"> 26.6 </td> <td> 194 </td> <td> 13.8 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 3 </td> <td> 2,200 </td> <td class="bg3"> 35 </td> <td class="bg3"> 550 </td> <td> 67 </td> <td> 255 </td> <td class="bg3"> 99 </td> <td class="bg3"> 104 </td> <td> 131 </td> <td> 41 </td> <td class="bg3"> 163 </td> <td class="bg3"> 26.2 </td> <td> 195 </td> <td> 13.4 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 4 </td> <td> 1,800 </td> <td class="bg3"> 36 </td> <td class="bg3"> 540 </td> <td> 68 </td> <td> 250 </td> <td class="bg3"> 100 </td> <td class="bg3"> 100 </td> <td> 132 </td> <td> 40 </td> <td class="bg3"> 164 </td> <td class="bg3"> 25.8 </td> <td> 196 </td> <td> 13 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 5 </td> <td> 1,700 </td> <td class="bg3"> 37 </td> <td class="bg3"> 530 </td> <td> 69 </td> <td> 245 </td> <td class="bg3"> 101 </td> <td class="bg3"> 96 </td> <td> 133 </td> <td> 39.5 </td> <td class="bg3"> 165 </td> <td class="bg3"> 25.4 </td> <td> 197 </td> <td> 12.6 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 6 </td> <td> 1,600 </td> <td class="bg3"> 38 </td> <td class="bg3"> 520 </td> <td> 70 </td> <td> 240 </td> <td class="bg3"> 102 </td> <td class="bg3"> 92 </td> <td> 134 </td> <td> 39 </td> <td class="bg3"> 166 </td> <td class="bg3"> 25 </td> <td> 198 </td> <td> 12.2 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 7 </td> <td> 1,500 </td> <td class="bg3"> 39 </td> <td class="bg3"> 510 </td> <td> 71 </td> <td> 235 </td> <td class="bg3"> 103 </td> <td class="bg3"> 88 </td> <td> 135 </td> <td> 38.5 </td> <td class="bg3"> 167 </td> <td class="bg3"> 24.6 </td> <td> 199 </td> <td> 11.8 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 8 </td> <td> 1,400 </td> <td class="bg3"> 40 </td> <td class="bg3"> 500 </td> <td> 72 </td> <td> 230 </td> <td class="bg3"> 104 </td> <td class="bg3"> 86 </td> <td> 136 </td> <td> 38 </td> <td class="bg3"> 168 </td> <td class="bg3"> 24.2 </td> <td> 200 </td> <td> 11.4 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 9 </td> <td> 1,350 </td> <td class="bg3"> 41 </td> <td class="bg3"> 490 </td> <td> 73 </td> <td> 225 </td> <td class="bg3"> 105 </td> <td class="bg3"> 84 </td> <td> 137 </td> <td> 37.5 </td> <td class="bg3"> 169 </td> <td class="bg3"> 23.8 </td> <td> 201 </td> <td> 11 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 10 </td> <td> 1,300 </td> <td class="bg3"> 42 </td> <td class="bg3"> 480 </td> <td> 74 </td> <td> 220 </td> <td class="bg3"> 106 </td> <td class="bg3"> 82 </td> <td> 138 </td> <td> 37 </td> <td class="bg3"> 170 </td> <td class="bg3"> 23.4 </td> <td> 202 </td> <td> 10.6 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 11 </td> <td> 1,250 </td> <td class="bg3"> 43 </td> <td class="bg3"> 470 </td> <td> 75 </td> <td> 215 </td> <td class="bg3"> 107 </td> <td class="bg3"> 80 </td> <td> 139 </td> <td> 36.5 </td> <td class="bg3"> 171 </td> <td class="bg3"> 23 </td> <td> 203 </td> <td> 10.2 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 12 </td> <td> 1,200 </td> <td class="bg3"> 44 </td> <td class="bg3"> 460 </td> <td> 76 </td> <td> 210 </td> <td class="bg3"> 108 </td> <td class="bg3"> 78 </td> <td> 140 </td> <td> 36 </td> <td class="bg3"> 172 </td> <td class="bg3"> 22.6 </td> <td> 204 </td> <td> 9.8 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 13 </td> <td> 1,150 </td> <td class="bg3"> 45 </td> <td class="bg3"> 450 </td> <td> 77 </td> <td> 205 </td> <td class="bg3"> 109 </td> <td class="bg3"> 76 </td> <td> 141 </td> <td> 35.5 </td> <td class="bg3"> 173 </td> <td class="bg3"> 22.2 </td> <td> 205 </td> <td> 9.4 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 14 </td> <td> 1,100 </td> <td class="bg3"> 46 </td> <td class="bg3"> 440 </td> <td> 78 </td> <td> 200 </td> <td class="bg3"> 110 </td> <td class="bg3"> 74 </td> <td> 142 </td> <td> 35 </td> <td class="bg3"> 174 </td> <td class="bg3"> 21.8 </td> <td> 206 </td> <td> 9 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 15 </td> <td> 1,050 </td> <td class="bg3"> 47 </td> <td class="bg3"> 430 </td> <td> 79 </td> <td> 195 </td> <td class="bg3"> 111 </td> <td class="bg3"> 72 </td> <td> 143 </td> <td> 34.5 </td> <td class="bg3"> 175 </td> <td class="bg3"> 21.4 </td> <td> 207 </td> <td> 8.6 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 16 </td> <td> 1,000 </td> <td class="bg3"> 48 </td> <td class="bg3"> 420 </td> <td> 80 </td> <td> 190 </td> <td class="bg3"> 112 </td> <td class="bg3"> 70 </td> <td> 144 </td> <td> 34 </td> <td class="bg3"> 176 </td> <td class="bg3"> 21 </td> <td> 208 </td> <td> 8.2 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 17 </td> <td> 950 </td> <td class="bg3"> 49 </td> <td class="bg3"> 410 </td> <td> 81 </td> <td> 185 </td> <td class="bg3"> 113 </td> <td class="bg3"> 68 </td> <td> 145 </td> <td> 33.5 </td> <td class="bg3"> 177 </td> <td class="bg3"> 20.6 </td> <td> 209 </td> <td> 7.8 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 18 </td> <td> 900 </td> <td class="bg3"> 50 </td> <td class="bg3"> 400 </td> <td> 82 </td> <td> 180 </td> <td class="bg3"> 114 </td> <td class="bg3"> 66 </td> <td> 146 </td> <td> 33 </td> <td class="bg3"> 178 </td> <td class="bg3"> 20.2 </td> <td> 210 </td> <td> 7.4 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 19 </td> <td> 875 </td> <td class="bg3"> 51 </td> <td class="bg3"> 390 </td> <td> 83 </td> <td> 175 </td> <td class="bg3"> 115 </td> <td class="bg3"> 64 </td> <td> 147 </td> <td> 32.6 </td> <td class="bg3"> 179 </td> <td class="bg3"> 19.8 </td> <td> 211 </td> <td> 7 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 20 </td> <td> 850 </td> <td class="bg3"> 52 </td> <td class="bg3"> 380 </td> <td> 84 </td> <td> 170 </td> <td class="bg3"> 116 </td> <td class="bg3"> 62 </td> <td> 148 </td> <td> 32.2 </td> <td class="bg3"> 180 </td> <td class="bg3"> 19.4 </td> <td> 212 </td> <td> 6.6 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 21 </td> <td> 800 </td> <td class="bg3"> 53 </td> <td class="bg3"> 370 </td> <td> 85 </td> <td> 165 </td> <td class="bg3"> 117 </td> <td class="bg3"> 60 </td> <td> 149 </td> <td> 31.8 </td> <td class="bg3"> 181 </td> <td class="bg3"> 19 </td> <td> 213 </td> <td> 6.2 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 22 </td> <td> 780 </td> <td class="bg3"> 54 </td> <td class="bg3"> 360 </td> <td> 86 </td> <td> 160 </td> <td class="bg3"> 118 </td> <td class="bg3"> 58 </td> <td> 150 </td> <td> 31.4 </td> <td class="bg3"> 182 </td> <td class="bg3"> 18.6 </td> <td> 214 </td> <td> 5.8 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 23 </td> <td> 760 </td> <td class="bg3"> 55 </td> <td class="bg3"> 350 </td> <td> 87 </td> <td> 155 </td> <td class="bg3"> 119 </td> <td class="bg3"> 56 </td> <td> 151 </td> <td> 31 </td> <td class="bg3"> 183 </td> <td class="bg3"> 18.2 </td> <td> 215 </td> <td> 5.4 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 24 </td> <td> 740 </td> <td class="bg3"> 56 </td> <td class="bg3"> 340 </td> <td> 88 </td> <td> 150 </td> <td class="bg3"> 120 </td> <td class="bg3"> 54 </td> <td> 152 </td> <td> 30.6 </td> <td class="bg3"> 184 </td> <td class="bg3"> 17.8 </td> <td> 216 </td> <td> 5 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 25 </td> <td> 720 </td> <td class="bg3"> 57 </td> <td class="bg3"> 330 </td> <td> 89 </td> <td> 145 </td> <td class="bg3"> 121 </td> <td class="bg3"> 52 </td> <td> 153 </td> <td> 30.2 </td> <td class="bg3"> 185 </td> <td class="bg3"> 17.4 </td> <td> 217 </td> <td> 4.6 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 26 </td> <td> 700 </td> <td class="bg3"> 58 </td> <td class="bg3"> 320 </td> <td> 90 </td> <td> 140 </td> <td class="bg3"> 122 </td> <td class="bg3"> 50 </td> <td> 154 </td> <td> 29.8 </td> <td class="bg3"> 186 </td> <td class="bg3"> 17 </td> <td> 218 </td> <td> 4.2 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 27 </td> <td> 680 </td> <td class="bg3"> 59 </td> <td class="bg3"> 310 </td> <td> 91 </td> <td> 136 </td> <td class="bg3"> 123 </td> <td class="bg3"> 49 </td> <td> 155 </td> <td> 29.4 </td> <td class="bg3"> 187 </td> <td class="bg3"> 16.6 </td> <td> 219 </td> <td> 3.8 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 28 </td> <td> 660 </td> <td class="bg3"> 60 </td> <td class="bg3"> 300 </td> <td> 92 </td> <td> 132 </td> <td class="bg3"> 124 </td> <td class="bg3"> 48 </td> <td> 156 </td> <td> 29 </td> <td class="bg3"> 188 </td> <td class="bg3"> 16.2 </td> <td> 220 </td> <td> 3.4 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 29 </td> <td> 640 </td> <td class="bg3"> 61 </td> <td class="bg3"> 292 </td> <td> 93 </td> <td> 128 </td> <td class="bg3"> 125 </td> <td class="bg3"> 47 </td> <td> 157 </td> <td> 28.6 </td> <td class="bg3"> 189 </td> <td class="bg3"> 15.8 </td> <td> 221 </td> <td> 3 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 30 </td> <td> 620 </td> <td class="bg3"> 62 </td> <td class="bg3"> 284 </td> <td> 94 </td> <td> 124 </td> <td class="bg3"> 126 </td> <td class="bg3"> 46 </td> <td> 158 </td> <td> 28.2 </td> <td class="bg3"> 190 </td> <td class="bg3"> 15.4 </td> <td> 222 </td> <td> 2.6 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 31 </td> <td> 600 </td> <td class="bg3"> 63 </td> <td class="bg3"> 276 </td> <td> 95 </td> <td> 120 </td> <td class="bg3"> 127 </td> <td class="bg3"> 45 </td> <td> 159 </td> <td> 27.8 </td> <td class="bg3"> 191 </td> <td class="bg3"> 15 </td> <td> 223 </td> <td> 2.3 </td> </tr> <tr class="bg2"> <td> 32 </td> <td> 590 </td> <td class="bg3"> 64 </td> <td class="bg3"> 270 </td> <td> 96 </td> <td> 116 </td> <td class="bg3"> 128 </td> <td class="bg3"> 44 </td> <td> 160 </td> <td> 27.4 </td> <td class="bg3"> 192 </td> <td class="bg3"> 14.6 </td> <td> 224 </td> <td> 2</td></tr></tbody></table>

[Dozerdog]

I woukld be very happy if we could just swap spots in the 2nd round....we will have a shot at the takle from Maimi...both houston and the jets will pick him before our spot......

they can keep there 4th....

Hey where is the guy with the pionts value thingy....is this equivilant to a 4th rounder?The answer would be yes.

However- I would rather have the pick

[Meathead]

how come picks 31-33 go down by 10 pts then 34 goes down 20 then 35 goes back down 10

the logical progression would be

31 600
32 580
33 570
34 560

by my quick perusal it looks like thats the only place on the whole chart it does that

i could see that happening maybe round 4 after everybody has a whole night to think about who they missed, but not between rounds 1 and 2

but where it is it makes no sense and is seemingly unnecessary

[ICE74129]

Here is what I would like to see....We get thier 5th and we swap picks in the 3rd. Texans have picks 1-2 we have 6-9 I believe?

We take their 5th, and swap #9 for #2 in the 3rd round. I could live with that.

[G. Host]

Bills want Texans' 4th because it is the first pick of the second day. Very valuable pick IMO, a lot more value due to it being first pick of the day and Bills can do a lot of prepick planning.

[FlyingDutchman]

I woukld be very happy if we could just swap spots in the 2nd round....

Not a bad idea. Especially if Mcneil keeps sliding on the draft boards he could slip into early 2nd round. Ngata/Bunkley and Mcneil would be an incredible draft.

[DraftBoy]

I only want the 4th from HOU not a swapping of 2nd or 3rds or their 5th, the value of that 1st pick on day 2, is too much to sway me any other way.

[ICE74129]

I only want the 4th from HOU not a swapping of 2nd or 3rds or their 5th, the value of that 1st pick on day 2, is too much to sway me any other way.

So instead of picking up one pick and moving up in one or two other spots, you want to settle for one pick?

I'd like to know how many game changing/ probowlers came from the 1st pick in the 4th round in the last 10 years.

[acehole]

That pick in the second is like a last first rounder.......staring OT and DT with our first two picks.......


That fourth like a late 3rd....

Either would be great

[Dozerdog]

So instead of picking up one pick and moving up in one or two other spots, you want to settle for one pick?

I'd like to know how many game changing/ probowlers came from the 1st pick in the 4th round in the last 10 years.

Wasn't the first pick in the round, but guys like Terrance McGee come to mind.


Yes- I want the additional pick in the top 100.

[Dozerdog]

Wasn't the first pick in the round, but guys like Terrance McGee come to mind.


Yes- I want the additional pick in the top 100.Plus, statistically- you increase your chances of getting a "pro bowler" by getting more bodies in the top 100 than moving up 8 spaces outside of the first round

[ParanoidAndroid]

Why not aim slightly higher and offer Moulds and a 5th for a 3rd? Sit on it and sit on it untill they cave and offer at least the 4th.

[HHURRICANE]

Moulds is supposed to be in Houston getting the physical and signing the deal. It's all moot if compensation can't be reached. I think they pony up thier 4th rounder.

Hate to quote Clayton but we are definately getting a 5th rounder. Listened to him on Saturday and he made perfect sense. Bills have little room for negotiation here. Eagles are not interested and Moulds is getting a very good contract. Levy has gone on record as saying he won't screw Moulds and holding out for a forth when our only other option is to cut him makes no sense. We are getting a 5th!!

[HHURRICANE]

Here is what I would like to see....We get thier 5th and we swap picks in the 3rd. Texans have picks 1-2 we have 6-9 I believe?

We take their 5th, and swap #9 for #2 in the 3rd round. I could live with that.

Not going to happen. 5th only!!

[Dozerdog]

Hate to quote Clayton but we are definately getting a 5th rounder. Listened to him on Saturday and he made perfect sense. Bills have little room for negotiation here. Eagles are not interested and Moulds is getting a very good contract. Levy has gone on record as saying he won't screw Moulds and holding out for a forth when our only other option is to cut him makes no sense. We are getting a 5th!!Pretty much what I was trelling Ice all weekend. We have no leverage here


I'll take it.

[HHURRICANE]

Why not aim slightly higher and offer Moulds and a 5th for a 3rd? Sit on it and sit on it untill they cave and offer at least the 4th.

Why would they cave?!!!

[ShadowHawk7]

Why would they cave?!!!
Good point, but I wouldn't settle for anything less than a 4th.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Why would they cave?!!!

I did a poor job of illustrating it should have turned on the sarcasm switch), but that is exactly my point. If the offer is a 5th we just might have to swallow it since it is either he goes to Houston or he stays here and becomes a 10 million dollar headache.