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  • Bling
    Registered User
    • Jul 2004
    • 13022

    COVER 2 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DL

    Please understand that. The Cover 2 Defense is a defense that tries to eliminate the problems with the Secondary, and somewhat addresses the LB. Basically it's a defense based on the 3 LBs and 2 CBs are in Zone with the Safeties playing deep . It has nothing to do with whether or not you're picking up Brodrick Bunkley or Haloti Ngata. Cover 2 Defenses don't require anything out of the DL's. 3-4 Defenses do, but Cover 2 don't.


    Here's some more info on the Cover 2:
    The fifth day of class in Bob Davie's Football 101 season-long course breaks down Cover 2.
  • ParanoidAndroid
    My battery is low and it's getting dark.
    • Apr 2004
    • 16862

    #2
    Re: COVER 2 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DL

    I disagree because you don't really have a successful cover 2 if you don't put pressure on the QB. If cover 2 is your base defense, you need a good pass rush from your front 4. If you need a pass rushing DT, would you rather have Bunkley or Ngata?

    Quote from the article: "The key to cover two, or any zone coverage, is getting a great pass rush with your four rushers."

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    • ICE74129
      Legendary Zoner
      • Feb 2005
      • 10796

      #3
      Re: COVER 2 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DL

      You would be incorrect. If your front line can't get to my QB in the Cover 2, your secondary is screwed.

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      • ParanoidAndroid
        My battery is low and it's getting dark.
        • Apr 2004
        • 16862

        #4
        Re: COVER 2 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DL

        beat you to it, Ice

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        • Sco11
          The U
          • Jan 2006
          • 42

          #5
          Re: COVER 2 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DL

          u need pressure from the front 4 to run a cover 2.

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          • SquishDaFish
            Lets GO BUFFALO!!
            • Jun 2005
            • 17034

            #6
            Re: COVER 2 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DL

            You need to research before making asanine statements. You are so completly wrong its not funny. Cover 2 REQUIRES pressure on the QB. You dont need a great SS in the cover 2 if played right.

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            • ParanoidAndroid
              My battery is low and it's getting dark.
              • Apr 2004
              • 16862

              #7
              Re: COVER 2 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DL

              What makes it funnier is that it is stated right in the article he linkd to.

              Miami fan?

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              • TigerJ
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 22575

                #8
                Re: COVER 2 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DL

                To say that the cover 2 defense has nothing to do with the defensive line is like trying to say that a tree's efforts to grow leaves have nothing to do with the roots. If the roots aren't doing their job, the twigs aren't going to put out leaves. The cover two seems to be a pretty basic, conservative defense, much less complex than what Jerry Gray was trying to run. However, given a lot of time to run his checkdowns a QB is going to find the open receiver and pick it appart. Sometimes, a team will run a cover two late in a game when they have a lead and they want to keep the other team from scoring quickly. It will often work because the safeties playing deep will not give up many big plays deep. Used as such it's often thought of as a bend but don't break defense. The style that is played by Tampa, Indianapolis, and Chicago, views the cover 2 as more of an aggressive defense, depending on penetration by the defensive linemen to disrupt the rhythem of the QB, forcing him to get rid of it before he's ready. That allows the secondary to make lots of interceptions.
                Last edited by TigerJ; 04-09-2006, 08:58 PM.
                I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.

                I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.

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                • hydro
                  Registered User
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 20160

                  #9
                  Re: COVER 2 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DL

                  Originally posted by andyxc71
                  What makes it funnier is that it is stated right in the article he linkd to.

                  Miami fan?
                  You got it! LMAO

                  "The key to cover two, or any zone coverage, is getting a great pass rush with your four rushers. No zone coverage can hold up against a good passing football team if you don't pressure the quarterback."
                  BERNIAC!

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                  • hydro
                    Registered User
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 20160

                    #10
                    Re: COVER 2 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DL

                    Ngata is a run stuffer mainly, where bunkley gets to the QB which works better for this D.
                    BERNIAC!

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                    • patmoran2006
                      Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 19840

                      #11
                      Re: COVER 2 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DL

                      Originally posted by Sco11
                      u need pressure from the front 4 to run a cover 2.
                      Umm. You need pressure from the front four to RUN ANY defense.. 3-4, 4-3, 46, it doesnt matter.

                      Not just the Cover Two


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                      • Mr. Pink
                        Peterman Sucks!
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 35303

                        #12
                        Re: COVER 2 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DL

                        Originally posted by patmoran2006
                        Umm. You need pressure from the front four to RUN ANY defense.. 3-4, 4-3, 46, it doesnt matter.

                        Not just the Cover Two

                        Patrick, you've gone batty....the 3-4 only has the front three :)

                        Plus the DT is only there to take up space and not get pushed around like a ragdoll.

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                        • camelcowboy
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 7449

                          #13
                          Re: COVER 2 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DL

                          Originally posted by Bling
                          Please understand that. The Cover 2 Defense is a defense that tries to eliminate the problems with the Secondary, and somewhat addresses the LB. Basically it's a defense based on the 3 LBs and 2 CBs are in Zone with the Safeties playing deep . It has nothing to do with whether or not you're picking up Brodrick Bunkley or Haloti Ngata. Cover 2 Defenses don't require anything out of the DL's. 3-4 Defenses do, but Cover 2 don't.


                          Here's some more info on the Cover 2:
                          http://espn.go.com/ncf/columns/davie/1437187.html

                          your smarter then this not much, but you are.


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                          • camelcowboy
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 7449

                            #14
                            Re: COVER 2 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DL

                            4-3 the d-ends rush, tackles clug the middle to protect the line backers. 3-4 nose tackle and ends are meant to take on as many blockers as possible while the line backers provide the passrush. The cover 2 has little to no blitzing, alot of stunts on the d-line a pass rush is a must or the system will fail. Look at Tampa, and Indy D-line provide a rush is the vital part of the system


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                            • Mr B
                              Registered User
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 147

                              #15
                              Re: COVER 2 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DL

                              Originally posted by Bling
                              Please understand that. The Cover 2 Defense is a defense that tries to eliminate the problems with the Secondary, and somewhat addresses the LB. Basically it's a defense based on the 3 LBs and 2 CBs are in Zone with the Safeties playing deep . It has nothing to do with whether or not you're picking up Brodrick Bunkley or Haloti Ngata. Cover 2 Defenses don't require anything out of the DL's. 3-4 Defenses do, but Cover 2 don't.


                              Here's some more info on the Cover 2:
                              http://espn.go.com/ncf/columns/davie/1437187.html
                              Yo dude, this is from the link you posted. I hope you grabbed your lunch box.

                              Conclusion
                              Cover two is an effective coverage because you can assign five defenders to play the underneath zones. This makes the offense have to execute at an extremely high level to be effective. The defense is not allowing much space or easy throws. The vulnerability of cover two is that you only have two deep defenders. Obviously, that leaves a large area for the safeties to cover. To help the deep defenders, the underneath zone players must pattern read the routes of the offensive players to take the pressure off the safeties. The key to cover two, or any zone coverage, is getting a great pass rush with your four rushers. No zone coverage can hold up against a good passing football team if you don't pressure the quarterback.

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