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Bling
04-09-2006, 02:07 PM
Please understand that. The Cover 2 Defense is a defense that tries to eliminate the problems with the Secondary, and somewhat addresses the LB. Basically it's a defense based on the 3 LBs and 2 CBs are in Zone with the Safeties playing deep . It has nothing to do with whether or not you're picking up Brodrick Bunkley or Haloti Ngata. Cover 2 Defenses don't require anything out of the DL's. 3-4 Defenses do, but Cover 2 don't.


Here's some more info on the Cover 2:
http://espn.go.com/ncf/columns/davie/1437187.html

ParanoidAndroid
04-09-2006, 03:21 PM
I disagree because you don't really have a successful cover 2 if you don't put pressure on the QB. If cover 2 is your base defense, you need a good pass rush from your front 4. If you need a pass rushing DT, would you rather have Bunkley or Ngata?

Quote from the article: "The key to cover two, or any zone coverage, is getting a great pass rush with your four rushers."

ICE74129
04-09-2006, 03:22 PM
You would be incorrect. If your front line can't get to my QB in the Cover 2, your secondary is screwed.

ParanoidAndroid
04-09-2006, 03:29 PM
beat you to it, Ice :D

Sco11
04-09-2006, 03:45 PM
u need pressure from the front 4 to run a cover 2.

SquishDaFish
04-09-2006, 03:48 PM
You need to research before making asanine statements. You are so completly wrong its not funny. Cover 2 REQUIRES pressure on the QB. You dont need a great SS in the cover 2 if played right.

ParanoidAndroid
04-09-2006, 05:12 PM
What makes it funnier is that it is stated right in the article he linkd to.

Miami fan?

TigerJ
04-09-2006, 05:17 PM
To say that the cover 2 defense has nothing to do with the defensive line is like trying to say that a tree's efforts to grow leaves have nothing to do with the roots. If the roots aren't doing their job, the twigs aren't going to put out leaves. The cover two seems to be a pretty basic, conservative defense, much less complex than what Jerry Gray was trying to run. However, given a lot of time to run his checkdowns a QB is going to find the open receiver and pick it appart. Sometimes, a team will run a cover two late in a game when they have a lead and they want to keep the other team from scoring quickly. It will often work because the safeties playing deep will not give up many big plays deep. Used as such it's often thought of as a bend but don't break defense. The style that is played by Tampa, Indianapolis, and Chicago, views the cover 2 as more of an aggressive defense, depending on penetration by the defensive linemen to disrupt the rhythem of the QB, forcing him to get rid of it before he's ready. That allows the secondary to make lots of interceptions.

hydro
04-09-2006, 05:18 PM
What makes it funnier is that it is stated right in the article he linkd to.

Miami fan?

You got it! LMAO

"The key to cover two, or any zone coverage, is getting a great pass rush with your four rushers. No zone coverage can hold up against a good passing football team if you don't pressure the quarterback."

hydro
04-09-2006, 05:19 PM
Ngata is a run stuffer mainly, where bunkley gets to the QB which works better for this D.

patmoran2006
04-09-2006, 07:06 PM
u need pressure from the front 4 to run a cover 2.

Umm. You need pressure from the front four to RUN ANY defense.. 3-4, 4-3, 46, it doesnt matter.

Not just the Cover Two

Mr. Pink
04-09-2006, 07:37 PM
Umm. You need pressure from the front four to RUN ANY defense.. 3-4, 4-3, 46, it doesnt matter.

Not just the Cover Two


Patrick, you've gone batty....the 3-4 only has the front three :)

Plus the DT is only there to take up space and not get pushed around like a ragdoll.

camelcowboy
04-09-2006, 07:59 PM
Please understand that. The Cover 2 Defense is a defense that tries to eliminate the problems with the Secondary, and somewhat addresses the LB. Basically it's a defense based on the 3 LBs and 2 CBs are in Zone with the Safeties playing deep . It has nothing to do with whether or not you're picking up Brodrick Bunkley or Haloti Ngata. Cover 2 Defenses don't require anything out of the DL's. 3-4 Defenses do, but Cover 2 don't.


Here's some more info on the Cover 2:
http://espn.go.com/ncf/columns/davie/1437187.html


your smarter then this not much, but you are.

camelcowboy
04-09-2006, 08:02 PM
4-3 the d-ends rush, tackles clug the middle to protect the line backers. 3-4 nose tackle and ends are meant to take on as many blockers as possible while the line backers provide the passrush. The cover 2 has little to no blitzing, alot of stunts on the d-line a pass rush is a must or the system will fail. Look at Tampa, and Indy D-line provide a rush is the vital part of the system

Mr B
04-09-2006, 10:44 PM
Please understand that. The Cover 2 Defense is a defense that tries to eliminate the problems with the Secondary, and somewhat addresses the LB. Basically it's a defense based on the 3 LBs and 2 CBs are in Zone with the Safeties playing deep . It has nothing to do with whether or not you're picking up Brodrick Bunkley or Haloti Ngata. Cover 2 Defenses don't require anything out of the DL's. 3-4 Defenses do, but Cover 2 don't.


Here's some more info on the Cover 2:
http://espn.go.com/ncf/columns/davie/1437187.html

Yo dude, this is from the link you posted. I hope you grabbed your lunch box.


Conclusion
Cover two is an effective coverage because you can assign five defenders to play the underneath zones. This makes the offense have to execute at an extremely high level to be effective. The defense is not allowing much space or easy throws. The vulnerability of cover two is that you only have two deep defenders. Obviously, that leaves a large area for the safeties to cover. To help the deep defenders, the underneath zone players must pattern read the routes of the offensive players to take the pressure off the safeties. The key to cover two, or any zone coverage, is getting a great pass rush with your four rushers. No zone coverage can hold up against a good passing football team if you don't pressure the quarterback.

tampabay25690
04-09-2006, 10:54 PM
Please understand that. The Cover 2 Defense is a defense that tries to eliminate the problems with the Secondary, and somewhat addresses the LB. Basically it's a defense based on the 3 LBs and 2 CBs are in Zone with the Safeties playing deep . It has nothing to do with whether or not you're picking up Brodrick Bunkley or Haloti Ngata. Cover 2 Defenses don't require anything out of the DL's. 3-4 Defenses do, but Cover 2 don't.


Here's some more info on the Cover 2:
http://espn.go.com/ncf/columns/davie/1437187.html

WOW
I have never seen a cover 2 that doesnt have pressure. NO pressure your CB and safeties are on islands and they are screwed......BAD POST!!!!!!

SquishDaFish
04-10-2006, 05:17 AM
HaHaHa No response after everyone pointed out hoe you were wrong? I mean even the article you were referring to says your wrong Bling LMAO

mysticsoto
04-10-2006, 07:36 AM
Umm. You need pressure from the front four to RUN ANY defense.. 3-4, 4-3, 46, it doesnt matter.

Not just the Cover Two

I was just going to say this. This is a team sport. If the guys up front "in the trenches" as they say, don't do their job, it has a cascading effect on the rest of the team.

Of course what the Dline does matter...in ANY defensive scheme!!!