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oldno711
04-27-2006, 11:17 AM
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Trade winds picking up


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The biggest developing story in the last 24 hours is the Rams' increased interest in Vanderbilt QB Jay Cutler (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2006&id=9296). The Rams are correct in believing the Cardinals are targeting Cutler with the 10th pick. As a result, the Rams have been working the phones trying to bait the Lions (No. 9) or Bills (No. 8) into a trade that would allow them to move ahead of the Cardinals for Cutler.
The Lions have not been overly receptive, as they have their sights set on Texas DB Michael Huff (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2006&id=9281). Should Huff be off the board when the Lions go on the clock, they might change their mind. In the meantime, St. Louis will continue to work with the Bills, who have shown far more interest in dealing.
Bills coach Dick Jauron is reportedly eager to trade up for the two players he covets most from this year's class -- Virginia OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?id=9817&draftyear=2006) and Ohio State OLB A.J. Hawk (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?id=9820&draftyear=2006). Unfortunately, general manager Marv Levy does not feel it is prudent to mortgage a second-round pick to move up for Ferguson or Hawk. Although Levy isn't necessarily sold on the idea of moving at all, he is far more receptive to trading down.
Buffalo isn't as wild about the top two defensive tackle prospects -- Haloti Ngata (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2006&id=10294) (Oregon) and Brodrick Bunkley (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2006&id=9236) (Florida State) -- as most are led to believe. A source tells me Levy prefers Ngata because of concerns regarding Bunkley's character and ability to adjust to cold winters in Buffalo. The coaching staff, on the other hand, covets Bunkley because he's a far better fit in the new one-gap penetrating scheme.
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The Rams would love to get their hands on Jay Cutler.



The Bills also have extremely high grades on Cutler and Huff. Although it might be a long shot for the Bills to draft a quarterback after using a first-round pick on J.P. Losman in 2004, it is something that reportedly has been tossed around during draft meetings. Cutler might carry a higher grade, but the team likely would select one of the defensive tackles or Huff ahead of Cutler simply because of need.
The reason trading down has become so much more attractive for the Bills is because they're beginning to realize they can get a similar value in the low teens as with the eighth pick. Should they make a deal to move down a few spots to pick No. 11, Huff likely would be gone but Ngata or Bunkley should still be on the board.
The Eagles, who hold the 14th overall selection, also have contacted the Bills for a potential trade. The Bills likely would lose out on both defensive tackle prospects, but they have some other prospects (OLB Ernie Sims (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2006&id=10381), OT Winston Justice (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2006&id=10406) and DC Jimmy Williams (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2006&id=9292)) -- targeted in that range, as well.
What's hard to figure is which prospect Philadelphia would value so highly as to make such a significant trade? There has been no leak from Eagles camp at this point, but my best guess would be Justice. Although Justice generally is considered a mid-first round prospect, there have been reports that teams such as the Cowboys (18) and Buccaneers (No. 23) have contacted the Ravens (No. 13) about moving ahead of the Eagles (No. 14) to select Justice.
Finally, if the Rams do get a deal done to move up for Cutler, it could put the Cardinals in a tough spot. Arizona had considered Sims as a strong possibility with the 10th pick, but recent reports regarding multiple concussions in Sims' past have forced the Cardinals to reconsider. At this point, Justice and Williams are back in the equation. Scouts Inc. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?page=ScoutsInc) watches games, breaks down film and studies football from all angles for ESPN Insider.
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Jersey1031
04-27-2006, 11:25 AM
Buffalo isn't as wild about the top two defensive tackle prospects -- Haloti Ngata (Oregon) and Brodrick Bunkley (Florida State) -- as most are led to believe.


I knew it...

I'd be so happy with Hawk, Brick, or Huff...

don137
04-27-2006, 11:56 AM
If Brick and Hawk are gone I think Huff is the safest pick. If the Rams do want to trade up Buffalo could really do well trading up in the draft for another day one pick. I don't have the point system but trading down with St Louis for there #1 and #2 and giving them Houston's 5th rounder would seem fair. The Bills could really address the lines with 1 st round 2 2nd rounders and 2 3rd rounders...

ICE74129
04-27-2006, 12:11 PM
Tell me how he knows what has gone on in our Draft meetings? He is full of SH@!. I would guess he might have checked with STL and Buff about possible trades but there is no way he knows what is going on in our draft talks.

don137
04-27-2006, 12:17 PM
I believe their are a few teams interested in trading up but how sserious are they about it is another story. I agree no one knows for sure. Everything is just a poker match at this point. If they want to mislead the public all they have to release false information to one of the insiders...The least talked about guy in Buffalo is Huff...That is why i am starting to think he is their guy...

mysticsoto
04-27-2006, 12:17 PM
Tell me how he knows what has gone on in our Draft meetings? He is full of SH@!. I would guess he might have checked with STL and Buff about possible trades but there is no way he knows what is going on in our draft talks.

I was just going to say the same thing - how does anyone know who Marv of anyone on the Bills staff grades highly in this draft? No GM in his right mind is going to let anyone know that! This is all speculation b'cse writers need to write something to get paid and there's nothing else to write about.

At this point, the best advice is "Don't believe the hype". Nothing being posted by anyone is true.

In 48 hours, we begin to find out the truth!!!

bigbub2352
04-27-2006, 12:32 PM
That is a good article but i have to agree with ICE, and mysticsoto this guy has no idea what is really being said and this is all speculation on who would fit the whole trade talk bull #$%@ we wont know anything till 2-230pm on Sat

ICE74129
04-27-2006, 12:39 PM
Agreed guys. And I am just going to say it....I dont belive a Fuggin thing ESPN Has to say. Tom Donahoe is their boy and I look for them to stick it to us any chance they get.

Devin
04-27-2006, 12:47 PM
I do believe the bit about Levy and Bunk/Ngata.

I think people here seriously underestimate how much value he puts on character. This is why Wrotten will not be a Bill nor will Jimmy Williams.

Tatonka
04-27-2006, 12:50 PM
a trade down w/ the rams would be perfect.

oldno711
04-27-2006, 12:50 PM
I totally agree...it is one of a thousand possibilities. Nobody knows what is said inside our draft meetings and nobody knows for sure who we are picking until our time on the clock is up. I am certainly not advocating the article, just thought I would pass it along.

All that reality aside, the weeks and months leading up to the draft are so intriguing b/c of that fact. Nobody Knows. The craziest thread posted on this board could come to fruition on Saturday...everything is possible.

Would yall be in favor in trading down to 11 with STL? Do you think Bunkley will still be there?

DraftBoy
04-27-2006, 01:01 PM
I love how when a guy as an insider says something that fans disagree with he's full of crap. Even though he is an insider for a reason.

However when a GM comes out and says we like guys A, B and C...its straight from God's mouth bc he would never lie, decieve, or try and plant a smokescreen...

What a double standard. Just take the report for what it is, if you dont like it fine, but there is no need to try and discredit a guy who got to where he is by reporting news before it breaks. Grow Up.

MVP
04-27-2006, 01:08 PM
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-TOP: 10px" vAlign=top>Bills coach Dick Jauron is reportedly eager to trade up for the two players he covets most from this year's class -- Virginia OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?id=9817&draftyear=2006) and Ohio State OLB A.J. Hawk (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?id=9820&draftyear=2006).

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D'Brick on the left, and Peters on the right, Holy *****!

Jersey1031
04-27-2006, 01:14 PM
Bills coach Dick Jauron is reportedly eager to trade up for the two players he covets most from this year's class -- Virginia OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson and Ohio State OLB A.J. Hawk.


Damn, I cannot wait until Saturday...I'm friggin soo excited!!
Unless we do not get Hawk, Huff, or Brick...Because then I'll just be disappointed.

Billsrock4life
04-27-2006, 01:17 PM
D'Brick on the left, and Peters on the right, Holy *****!

yeah that would be nice

CAbills
04-27-2006, 01:19 PM
I have a really good feeling Huff will be there but I have a bad feeling we wont pick him.

ICE74129
04-27-2006, 01:50 PM
I love how when a guy as an insider says something that fans disagree with he's full of crap. Even though he is an insider for a reason.

However when a GM comes out and says we like guys A, B and C...its straight from God's mouth bc he would never lie, decieve, or try and plant a smokescreen...

What a double standard. Just take the report for what it is, if you dont like it fine, but there is no need to try and discredit a guy who got to where he is by reporting news before it breaks. Grow Up.

I'll say it again and stand by it, he is full of SH@!. He does NOT know what is going on in our draft room and among our staff. If he does then someone at OBD needs to be fired. he is GUESSING. At best STL has told him they are trying to trade up and Buffalo shows the most intrest in trading down.

As for the Coach or GM I have said this as well. Fans think everyone is putting up a smoke screen until Marv or Tom says it then its gospel. That makes me LMAO.

Sportsuser101
04-27-2006, 01:53 PM
What a change from last year from not having a clue who we were going to draft to this year where well we don't have a clue who we're going to draft. But you get what I'm saying. Much more exciting this year.

Sportsuser101
04-27-2006, 01:54 PM
The only thing that gets leaked is things that want to be leaked. Teams put out rumors all the time.

Mitchy moo
04-27-2006, 02:50 PM
"Levy prefers Ngata", I just told you guys about this a few days ago from my source. Funny thing is how it comes out like that, always about/through Levy, hummmm.

Dont drink the water
04-27-2006, 06:00 PM
I love how when a guy as an insider says something that fans disagree with he's full of crap. Even though he is an insider for a reason. .

ESPN Insider is jsut a way for ESPN to try to collect money from articles reprinted from other sites. I was a member - once.

TigerJ
04-27-2006, 06:35 PM
I think like Tatonka that a trade down with St. Louis would be ideal.