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  • Ebenezer
    Give me a minute...
    • Jul 2002
    • 73868

    The Saints will not take Bush

    What is the improvement at RB by taking Bush when they could have McAllister back?

    The pick should be Brick. They can add to their rushing offense AND get help for protecting the QB. Adding Bush only gets them a few hundred yards.

    thoughts.




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  • Kerr
    Hall of Fame Zoner
    • Feb 2005
    • 6656

    #2
    Re: The Saints will not take Bush

    DM is coming off an acl injury. It makes some sense for them to consider bush. As i've said, he gives them some insurance in case Duece can't come back 100% just based on his potential.

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    • Iehoshua
      Registered User
      • Jan 2003
      • 12906

      #3
      Re: The Saints will not take Bush

      Agreed.

      ...but where does Bush end up?

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      • Bulldog
        Top Dog
        • Jan 2003
        • 2654

        #4
        Re: The Saints will not take Bush

        Originally posted by Ebenezer
        What is the improvement at RB by taking Bush when they could have McAllister back?

        The pick should be Brick. They can add to their rushing offense AND get help for protecting the QB. Adding Bush only gets them a few hundred yards.

        thoughts.
        I would make sense for them to address the o-line now that they have Brees in the fold. This is going to be interesting.
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        • Bulldog
          Top Dog
          • Jan 2003
          • 2654

          #5
          Re: The Saints will not take Bush

          Originally posted by Darth Takeo
          Agreed.

          ...but where does Bush end up?
          As crazy as it sounds, possibly to the Jets at 4.
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          • Ebenezer
            Give me a minute...
            • Jul 2002
            • 73868

            #6
            Re: The Saints will not take Bush

            Originally posted by Kerr
            DM is coming off an acl injury. It makes some sense for them to consider bush. As i've said, he gives them some insurance in case Duece can't come back 100% just based on his potential.
            that is a lot of money (one way or the other) sitting on the bench playing the role of insurance.




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            • Devin
              The Octagon
              • Apr 2003
              • 23878

              #7
              Re: The Saints will not take Bush

              Look at the big picture.

              For a team that could potentially move or is having money problems. You think Bush isnt a selling point. Its like the ultimate story. Bush to Saints, Saints to LA!
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              • Ebenezer
                Give me a minute...
                • Jul 2002
                • 73868

                #8
                Re: The Saints will not take Bush

                Originally posted by Darth Takeo
                Agreed.

                ...but where does Bush end up?
                as i posted weeks ago...it will not surprise me if he fell all the way to 5th and GB.




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                • The Natrix
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 7305

                  #9
                  Re: The Saints will not take Bush

                  Bush wouldn't be a horrible pick for NO, but I think they should take Brick or trade down if they think he (Brick) can be had a little later.

                  I have a lot of respect for the Texans not buying into the hype.



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                  • patmoran2006
                    Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 19840

                    #10
                    Re: The Saints will not take Bush

                    NOt that this really means much..

                    But Bush's agent told ESPN the Saints have given all indications they will take Bush..


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                    • Devin
                      The Octagon
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 23878

                      #11
                      Re: The Saints will not take Bush

                      http://gridironjunkies.net/forums/index.php

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                      • Kerr
                        Hall of Fame Zoner
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 6656

                        #12
                        Re: The Saints will not take Bush

                        Originally posted by Ebenezer
                        that is a lot of money (one way or the other) sitting on the bench playing the role of insurance.
                        You think that'd be the end of it? Oh no, at worse bush would share time only to end up being the starter by mid season. Duece will end up on the bench and likely become trade bait/free agent(I don't know his contract status). Circa 2003 when the TD drafted Mcgahee, while having Travis Henry(a solid starting back). What happens? Travis gets the boot because he can't compete with Willis. Bush is far more talented than Duece. Brees' new LT. Don't be surprised.

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                        • Devin
                          The Octagon
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 23878

                          #13
                          Re: The Saints will not take Bush

                          If the draft Bush, Deuce is gone next year if not sooner.
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                          • billsburgh
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 3560

                            #14
                            Re: The Saints will not take Bush

                            Originally posted by Devin
                            If the draft Bush, Deuce is gone next year if not sooner.
                            They would take a very large cap hit if they got rid of Deuce within the next year. He just signed an extension last year with a pretty big signing bonus. They were talking about this on espn radio on my way to work tonight.

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                            • LifetimeBillsFan
                              All-Pro Zoner
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 4946

                              #15
                              Re: The Saints will not take Bush

                              Originally posted by Kerr
                              DM is coming off an acl injury. It makes some sense for them to consider bush. As i've said, he gives them some insurance in case Duece can't come back 100% just based on his potential.
                              Last year was the second consecutive year that Deuce missed games due to injury. As good as he has been for the Saints, even if Deuce comes back at close to 100% this year, that has to raise concerns for the team that he is beginning to break down and may never again be the kind of back that he was before.

                              Deuce is a 240 lb RB coming off of an ACL. Bush is a much smaller "scat-back" who is somewhat similar to L.Tomlinson, who was Brees' main man in SD. There is no reason why the team can't use both of them this year, until they get a read on whether Deuce can get through a season unscathed before deciding what to do with him. This past season, the NO running game pretty much fell apart after Deuce went down--that would not happen if they had Reggie Bush and it would be more likely that Deuce could make it through the season in one piece if he had a Reggie Bush to share time with and keep him from taking as much abuse as he has taken in recent years.

                              Yes, the Saints probably could use D.Ferguson or even AJ Hawk (they haven't had a really good LB in years!) more than Bush, but that doesn't mean that Bush wouldn't be a fit for them. One thing that Bush would also bring to the team that no other player that they could take in this draft would is excitement--something that a team that has been displaced by Hurricane Katrina could certainly use to re-energize its fan base.

                              Personally, I think they would be better off trading down a few places and taking either Hawk or Ferguson, but I don't know the status of Deuce's knee injury and I'm not making the decisions for the Saints.
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