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I see Vince Young and I see a winner. I know there's a lion's list of high QB drafted Busts, but I think young is different.. I think he could be a difference maker on this team for many many years. He WILL be a difference maker somewhere. I actually think Leinart is going to the WORST of the three big time QB's.. I think Cutler is going to be a lot better than people think, and I think Vince Young is going to lead someone to a Super Bowl one day.
I also dont think there is a chance in hell he's going to be a Buffalo Bill.
People said the samething about Vick. And Aaron Brooks. And Akili Smith. Where are all their rings?
Anyway it doesn't matter if Young is the next Brady with Vick athleticism. We need other positions much more than we need QB's. We need immediate help and no QB- least of all Young- will do that.
you know what I love about teams like Pittsburgh, NE, Colts, Panthers.
They can go through injuries, but as long as they still have their leader at QB, they are ALWAYS going to be competitive.
Maybe I'm old school and maybe the NFL has changed, but if Im a GM I get the BEST TALENT I can get at QB and then I build my team around him.
I dont treat the QB position like its the right guard or outside linebacker position.. It isnt just a "need" pick.. NOthing is more important than having a good quarterback.. If we had the 1985 Chicago Bears defense then I'd tend to agree more, but we dont.
I just can not see Vince Young as a complete bust. Even if he has trouble readng defenses, he is just to much of an athlete to be ineffective. I don't see him as being an elite QB, but easily a long term starter.
Lienart=Ryan Leaf
Cutler = I have no read on him or gut instinct at all. Nothing he does will surprise me.
you know what I love about teams like Pittsburgh, NE, Colts, Panthers.
They can go through injuries, but as long as they still have their leader at QB, they are ALWAYS going to be competitive.
Maybe I'm old school and maybe the NFL has changed, but if Im a GM I get the BEST TALENT I can get at QB and then I build my team around him.
I dont treat the QB position like its the right guard or outside linebacker position.. It isnt just a "need" pick.. NOthing is more important than having a good quarterback.. If we had the 1985 Chicago Bears defense then I'd tend to agree more, but we dont.
Bullseye! You could put Brady, Manning on almost any team & go .500.
you know what I love about teams like Pittsburgh, NE, Colts, Panthers.
They can go through injuries, but as long as they still have their leader at QB, they are ALWAYS going to be competitive.
Maybe I'm old school and maybe the NFL has changed, but if Im a GM I get the BEST TALENT I can get at QB and then I build my team around him.
I dont treat the QB position like its the right guard or outside linebacker position.. It isnt just a "need" pick.. NOthing is more important than having a good quarterback.. If we had the 1985 Chicago Bears defense then I'd tend to agree more, but we dont.
That makes some sense, but what makes you so positive that young is better than JP or Nall? None of the 3 have any significant NFL experience.
If that's your logic, the smart thing to do would be get someone like Brees who has proven they can play than gamble on draft picks
I sure as hell cant say Young will be as good as Brady, Roth, Manning or Delhomme, those are big shoes to fill.
But I HATE Holcomb, I hate the fact that GB couldnt give two ****s about Nall even though Favre is soon to retire, and JP imo and maybe only my opinion has proved to me that he's too stupid football-wise to EVER be a real good QB.. I'm FULLY aware he's only played in a handful of games.
Let me put this out there.. We're "taking a huge risk" if we were to take a QB, right? Well, we're also taking JUST a big a risk if we dont.
Lets say we DONT (which we 90% wont).. And I'm right and JP Losman does the same **** this year he did last year.. AT the end of the year Marv decides this guy is a F'n bum and he's gone.. NOW we have to look at a QB all over again in 2007 and the process starts, a year LATER.
So in my book, letting an uproven guy play now like JP (or even Nall) is JUSt as risky as passing up on one of college Football's best quarterbacks ever... Vince Young caliber QB's dont come along every year and even if they did, I dont expect the bills plan to make picking in the top ten a yearly routine.
When you're in the top ten, your QB is UNPROVEN at BEST, and there is a potential franchise QB on the board, you take him.
Some people just dont understand. they just want the big name. just like Donahoe did for the last 5 years.
That's a bunch of crap.
For starters, if Marv does a GOOD Job on draft day, the draft goes MUCH deeper than one pick in the top ten.
almost ANYBODY can pick a good player when they pick in the top ten.
If Marv and his crew have done their job, they'll find PLENTY of "needed" help on both sides of the line in rounds 2-7.. Polian does it seemingly EVERY year.
I dont understand how so many people on this board are downplaying the significance of having a franchise QB..
Jim Kelly went to Super Bowls with a great OL I am well aware of this.. But when jim was in his prime he could have taken the 2005 Bills OL and won 10 games. Thats what franchise "winning" QB's do.
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