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  • ICE74129
    Legendary Zoner
    • Feb 2005
    • 10796

    Jets the team to beat soon.

    Jets are schooling on how to manipulate the draft. Dbrick was a given, but Mangold and now the QB from Oregon AND pick up Washingtons 2nd rounder next year?

    And our new Safety better be probowl level by year 2 or he is a bust. You don't take a safety that high unless he is a Roy Williams or Ed Reed.
  • BillsFever21
    Registered User
    • Aug 2004
    • 9067

    #2
    Re: Jets the team to beat soon.

    Originally posted by ICE74129
    Jets are schooling on how to manipulate the draft. Dbrick was a given, but Mangold and now the QB from Oregon AND pick up Washingtons 2nd rounder next year?

    And our new Safety better be probowl level by year 2 or he is a bust. You don't take a safety that high unless he is a Roy Williams or Ed Reed.
    This is why the Patriots, Dolphins and Jets have all been in the playoffs recently and we continue to suck every year and miss the playoffs.

    They picked up 2 great OL we could've only dreamed we had, picked up a good QB prospect AND got a 2nd round pick next year. Marv isn't smart enough to pull something like that off.

    We could've had Mangold. Instead we reach once again. This time on a DT who has injury concerns. What is even worse is there hasn't been another DT even selected since then.

    Marv hasn't worked the draft very good to get the best value out of the draft picks. They went into the first day without a plan. They had a few players dialed in and was afraid of losing them so they reached for them instead of being patient and taking the best value at the time we drafted.

    We have a ton of holes. Too many to zero in on certain players or positions and give up draft picks in the process. We have so many holes we could've went many different ways which would've filled holes and got better value and more draft picks out of it.

    ICE, you were one who trusted Marv and ranted and raved about him. Said he was gonna build this big foundation in the draft because he was so smart and such a great GM, and fix our OL in the draft when we kept signing all of these other teams garbage this offseason. Now you are unhappy. You trusted Marv and he failed.

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    • Saratoga Slim
      Registered User
      • Jul 2005
      • 4154

      #3
      Re: Jets the team to beat soon.

      Originally posted by BillsFever21
      You trusted Marv and he failed.
      that's just plain ridiculous to say at this point.
      Wake up, brush your teeth, and get ready for a day of hating the Dolphins. Or the Pats? How to choose?

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      • ICE74129
        Legendary Zoner
        • Feb 2005
        • 10796

        #4
        Re: Jets the team to beat soon.

        Like I said I had no issue with his aproach to FA, but his drafting flat sucks. Now most of the OT's worth a SH@! are off of the board again. When gandy is getting our QB's killed this year I wonder what the excuse will be?

        BTW...Philly had our perfect draft.

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        • Dicknoze69
          Just because my name is dicknoze,it doesn't mean I have balls in my mouth
          • Jul 2002
          • 1224

          #5
          Re: Jets the team to beat soon.

          Originally posted by BillsFever21
          You trusted Marv and he failed.
          These are the exact quotes that drive me to not post here anymore. The draft isn't a quick fix. Why don't you actually give these guys a shot? Maybe the professionals know more than you do.

          And you don't have to draft lineman high to build a successful team...there's more than one way to skin a cat.
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          • Dr. Lecter
            Zero for Zero!
            • Mar 2003
            • 67934

            #6
            Re: Jets the team to beat soon.

            Remember though that drafts are NOT graded on draft day, but 4-5 years later.

            Right now I am down on Marv too, but making a final decision now is silly (i.e. firing him tonight)
            Originally posted by mysticsoto
            Lecter is right in everything he said.

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            • Dr. Lecter
              Zero for Zero!
              • Mar 2003
              • 67934

              #7
              Re: Jets the team to beat soon.

              Originally posted by BillsFever21
              You trusted Marv and he failed.
              What is his record as GM?
              Originally posted by mysticsoto
              Lecter is right in everything he said.

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              • BillsFever21
                Registered User
                • Aug 2004
                • 9067

                #8
                Re: Jets the team to beat soon.

                Originally posted by Dicknoze69
                Maybe the professionals know more than you do.
                They know more then I do but he doesn't know more then the rest of the league.

                You people have been saying that same quote every draft, offseason, every losing season and coaching change for the last 5 years. You guys said that with Mike Mularkey, Tom Clements, Tom Donahoe, and draft picks like Parrish and Everett last year and some of the other garbage.

                Now we are hearing it with Marv Levy and Dick Jauron.

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                • Dicknoze69
                  Just because my name is dicknoze,it doesn't mean I have balls in my mouth
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 1224

                  #9
                  Re: Jets the team to beat soon.

                  Originally posted by BillsFever21
                  They know more then I do but he doesn't know more then the rest of the league.

                  You people have been saying that same quote every draft, offseason, every losing season and coaching change for the last 5 years. You guys said that with Mike Mularkey, Tom Clements, Tom Donahoe, and draft picks like Parrish and Everett last year and some of the other garbage.

                  Now we are hearing it with Marv Levy and Dick Jauron.
                  When you say "you people", you're referring to the wrong person. I killed the Roscoe Parrish pick, and Losman. Hated them. Next time when you accuse me of something, actually do your research. I'm far from a homer.

                  But I'm definitely not going to jump off a bridge because we reached a little. In time, it might be worth it. Use a little objectivity. Who knows.
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                  • BillsFever21
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 9067

                    #10
                    Re: Jets the team to beat soon.

                    Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                    What is his record as GM?
                    We heard this when Mularkey was hired too. "What is his record as a coach"

                    We saw how that turned out. We are gonna continue to suck and it won't be fun.

                    We'll see how the talent he brings in actually does too. He was left behind with some great young talent like Schobel, Evans, McGahee, Clements, McGee, Spikes, Peters and Fletcher and some other emerging players like Crowell and others with some potential like Preston.

                    He already has a good foundation to build on. If he can't put the final peices together to a winning team with that then he is truly pathetic. Even if he is successful most of it will be done with talent that was already on the team.

                    He bombed out this draft. doesn't wanna believe it but they never do. That's why we hear "I'll leave it to the professionals" "You must know more then them" " I guess you should be the HC or OC"

                    Then after they fail you will rip them apart and act like you always thought they sucked. Then the next staff will come on and we will hear the same old stuff again.

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                    • Sportsuser101
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 2705

                      #11
                      Re: Jets the team to beat soon.

                      Why don't you just say word for word what Mike Maycock of the NFL Network said why don't you Ice?
                      Dareus - 1st Round Pick

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                      • BillsFever21
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 9067

                        #12
                        Re: Jets the team to beat soon.

                        Originally posted by Dicknoze69
                        When you say "you people", you're referring to the wrong person. I killed the Roscoe Parrish pick, and Losman. Hated them. Next time when you accuse me of something, actually do your research. I'm far from a homer.

                        But I'm definitely not going to jump off a bridge because we reached a little. In time, it might be worth it. Use a little objectivity. Who knows.
                        Did I say just you? I was grouping the crowd of people who every year think we are on the verge and every move we make is the best one.

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                        • BillsFever21
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 9067

                          #13
                          Re: Jets the team to beat soon.

                          Originally posted by Sportsuser101
                          Why don't you just say word for word what Mike Maycock of the NFL Network said why don't you Ice?
                          He never has his own thoughts. Every mock draft and different player that came out on the mock was our next draft pick and a perfect fit.

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                          • ICE74129
                            Legendary Zoner
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 10796

                            #14
                            Re: Jets the team to beat soon.

                            Originally posted by Sportsuser101
                            Why don't you just say word for word what Mike Maycock of the NFL Network said why don't you Ice?
                            Because I don't know what he said. I was watching ESPN Thanks

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                            • ICE74129
                              Legendary Zoner
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 10796

                              #15
                              Re: Jets the team to beat soon.

                              Originally posted by BillsFever21
                              He never has his own thoughts. Every mock draft and different player that came out on the mock was our next draft pick and a perfect fit.
                              I always have my own thoughts. Where do you get this stupid crap?

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